BLM, or WLM? [MOD WARNING: FIRST POST]

Detritus70

WrenBoy wrote: »

Please do.

I already have. Not possible to go further without resorting to grunting and pointing.

WrenBoy

Detritus70 wrote: »

I already have. Not possible without resorting to grunting and pointing.

Well then maybe I wasn't far off with my interpretation.

Detritus70

Detritus70 wrote: »

Why do you want segregation?

I don't.

But constant talk of *insert minority* safe spaces and white people to recognise their privileged position and to try to be less white is telling white people they need to "keep to their own" and let "people of colour" to be recognised outside of the "white" controlled society.

That's segregation.

Let every person be judged on their merit, not their colour.

That's what I want.

No white knighting twats telling me that I'm racist all the time because I don't care what colour a person is.

All lives do matter.

That's only controversial to racists.

RobbieTheRobber

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

It was racism!



You state I'm racist. With no evidence.

Then you make up something I just simply haven't said and put it in quotation marks (""). Your deluded.

Is the reason you refuse to admit this is racism because you are scared to be shown agreeing with something I post?

You stated that half the board here is racist. With no evidence.

I do believe you are racist.

Do you believe white privilege exists?

RobbieTheRobber

More anti Asian racism rearing its ugly head

University of Southampton lecturer 'beaten up in racist attack'

A university lecturer has said he was subjected to a violent, racist attack while out jogging.

Chinese national Peng Wang, 37, said four white men shouted at him to "go home" in Southampton on Tuesday.

He said he needed treatment for facial and elbow injuries after they punched and kicked him to the ground, leaving him with a bloody nose and mouth

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-56209881

RobbieTheRobber

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

More anti Asian racism rearing its ugly head

University of Southampton lecturer 'beaten up in racist attack'



https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-56209881

Honest question; if four black men beat up this same person, would it be racism?

Is the racism the fact he was "told to go home" or the fact that the people who did it were white?

RobbieTheRobber

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

“When you gotta change a tire but don’t wanna get your trousers dirty,”

And picture of George Flyod being killed had no racist intent.
Is that your take Klaz?

Nope. George Floyd (notice the spelling?) was killed for a number of reasons, of which racism was one. Was it the primary reason? hmm.. I still don't truly know about that, since I've heard so many possible reasons for it happening.

In any case, you're doing it again. Introducing other factors that are unrelated to my original point. That the racism exists only because "the perp" in the photo is black. If the perp has been white nobody would have shouted racist, even though it's perfectly possible for people to be racist against their own..

Detritus70

Detritus70 wrote: »

Not my point.
My point is, if you're a white, European, reasonably comfortable person, you really shouldn't say "actuallly, those BLM guys don't know sh*t, I know better than them".

haha.. Good lord.. dancing on thin ice... saying the same things but trying to reword them to make it 'sound' different. :rolleyes:

RobbieTheRobber

Deleted User wrote: »

Nope. George Floyd (notice the spelling?) was killed for a number of reasons, of which racism was one. Was it the primary reason? hmm.. I still don't truly know about that, since I've heard so many possible reasons for it happening.

In any case, you're doing it again. Introducing other factors that are unrelated to my original point. That the racism exists only because "the perp" in the photo is black. If the perp has been white nobody would have shouted racist, even though it's perfectly possible for people to be racist against their own..

Are you ok?

I'm not even speaking about the original George Floyd incident. Haven't brought it up.
A news article yesterday was published about a police officer who used the image of George Floyd and and the caption I have already posted numerous times was added by that officer in a post they posted on their own facebook account.

A private individual reported it and the officer has been suspended while an investigation is under way. A serving police officer should not be posting content like that. It was posted with racist intent by the officer that is what the article I posted earlier alluded to.

I am not dealing with the specifics of the George Floyd case but rather an officer using that image to create a racist meme.

BattleCorp

Deleted User wrote: »

Honest question; if four black men beat up this same person, would it be racism?

Is the racism the fact he was "told to go home" or the fact that the people who did it were white?

No point asking any questions as he/she/they won't answer any of them. The only think that will happen is that he/she/they will post links to racist or possible racist attacks.

RobbieTheRobber

Deleted User wrote: »

Nope. George Floyd (notice the spelling?) was killed for a number of reasons, of which racism was one. Was it the primary reason? hmm.. I still don't truly know about that, since I've heard so many possible reasons for it happening.

In any case, you're doing it again. Introducing other factors that are unrelated to my original point. That the racism exists only because "the perp" in the photo is black. If the perp has been white nobody would have shouted racist, even though it's perfectly possible for people to be racist against their own..

Only need one full stop there Klaz notice how you used two incorrectly. :rolleyes:

RobbieTheRobber

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Are you ok?

I'm not even speaking about the original George Floyd incident. Haven't brought it up.
A news article yesterday was published about a police officer who used the image of George Floyd and and the caption I have already posted numerous times was added by that officer in a post they posted on their own facebook account.

A private individual reported it and the officer has been suspended while an investigation is under way. A serving police officer should not be posting content like that. It was posted with racist intent by the officer that is what the article I posted earlier alluded to.

I am not dealing with the specifics of the George Floyd case but rather an officer using that image to create a racist meme.

How is it racist?

What is racism to you?

RobbieTheRobber

Deleted User wrote: »

How is it racist?

What is racism to you?

Why don't you tell the rest of us what a racist is and when constitutes racism?

Necro

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

It was racism!



You state I'm racist. With no evidence.

Then you make up something I just simply haven't said and put it in quotation marks (""). Your deluded.

Is the reason you refuse to admit this is racism because you are scared to be shown agreeing with something I post?

Mod: RobbieTheRobber don't post in this thread again

fantaiscool

Detritus70 wrote: »

Apparently a lot of black folks in the US seem concerned. If they say so in their millions, who am I (or anyone else on this post) who isn't an African-American to argue otherwise?
If you do, you're telling black people in the US "actually I know your situation better than you" and isn't that just a tiny bit presumptive?
Actually no, it's massively arrogant and condescending at the very least, veering towards hateful.
This forum really is a toilet.

Good post. Surprising how some people care so much about racial equality but seem to miss the posts about real life racism. They seem to overwhelmingly comment on the incidents of crime by non-white people and not comment on the incidents of crime by white people. Maybe they simply didn't see those posts of crimes by non-white people. It's certainly strange to see so many people seem to miss posts like that but not miss the crimes by non-whites that get posted.

fantaiscool

fantaiscool wrote: »

Good post. Surprising how some people care so much about racial equality but seem to miss the posts about real life racism. They seem to overwhelmingly comment on the incidents of crime by non-white people and not comment on the incidents of crime by white people. Maybe they simply didn't see those posts of crimes by non-white people. It's certainly strange to see so many people seem to miss posts like that but not miss the crimes by non-whites that get posted.

Now now.

It can be easily said that you focus on racist crimes (i.e. white on POC, rather than POC on white people) rather than crime in general.

We all acknowledge racism exists. The vast majority of people disagree with it.

Constantly berating non racist people for the actions of racists will have a detrimental effect.

I'm assuming you agree we shouldn't accuse all Muslims of terrorism because a few are.

Yet you believe all white people should acknowledge"their privilege" because a few do?

Or do you actually believe white people are superior in society?

fantaiscool

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Prison Service attempts to get staff Facebook group removed over racist posts
Recent posts by prison officers mocked black people and Travellers

:eek:
Needs to be greater action here taken against state employees engaging in racism.





https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/prison-service-attempts-to-get-staff-facebook-group-removed-over-racist-posts-1.4493095

Shocking stuff and even more shocking that the reaction is not to find the culprits but instead to lobby facebook to delete the group.

fantaiscool

Deleted User wrote: »

Now now.

It can be easily said that you focus on racist crimes (i.e. white on POC, rather than POC on white people) rather than crime in general.

We all acknowledge racism exists. The vast majority of people disagree with it.

Constantly berating non racist people for the actions of racists will have a detrimental effect.

I'm assuming you agree we shouldn't accuse all Muslims of terrorism because a few are.

Yet you believe all white people should acknowledge"their privilege" because a few do?

Or do you actually believe white people are superior in society?

Why are you asking weird questions that have nothing to do with what I posted? Is everything ok?

fantaiscool

fantaiscool wrote: »

Why are you asking weird questions that have nothing to do with what I posted? Is everything ok?

I'm fine.

Can you answer questions put to you in a discussion or would you like to remain silent for fear of ruining your argument?

I don't mind.

nolivesmatter

Detritus70 wrote: »

Apparently a lot of black folks in the US seem concerned. If they say so in their millions, who am I (or anyone else on this post) who isn't an African-American to argue otherwise?
If you do, you're telling black people in the US "actually I know your situation better than you" and isn't that just a tiny bit presumptive?
Actually no, it's massively arrogant and condescending at the very least, veering towards hateful.
This forum really is a toilet.

Well that's it then isn't it. You don't really have an opinion on any of this. You're effectively just a vessel for whatever it is you believe "a lot of black folks" think. There's no point discussing anything with you because you're not capable of it.

fantaiscool

nolivesmatter wrote: »

Well that's it then isn't it. You don't really have an opinion on any of this. You're effectively just a vessel for whatever it is you believe "a lot of black folks" think. There's no point discussing anything with you because you're not capable of it.

Maybe he realizes that since he's not black he doesn't really know what it's like and what difficulties they face? Unfortunately he's not like some white people who seem to be experts on what black people go through.

fantaiscool

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm fine.

Can you answer questions put to you in a discussion or would you like to remain silent for fear of ruining your argument?

I don't mind.

Another weird question bud. Putting strange presuppositions into questions makes the question come across as odd. Are you aware of that now?

biko

This video has been posted before but deserves a re-run.
White protestors in Portland tries to shut down conversation between black protestor and black police.

https://youtu.be/cturvngdI04?t=87

fantaiscool

fantaiscool wrote: »

Another weird question bud. Putting strange presuppositions into questions makes the question come across as odd. Are you aware of that now?

Another non-answer "bud".

Refusing to answer questions comes across as tacit admission that you have no argument. Are you aware of that now?

statesaver

biko wrote: »

This video has been posted before but deserves a re-run.
White protestors in Portland tries to shut down conversation between black protestor and black police.

https://youtu.be/cturvngdI04?t=87

White liberal racists. Malcolm X warned about them in the 60's. Sadly they have increased in numbers and have taken over Uni's and media.

whysobecause

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

More reports of racist attacks on Asians. Abc 17 a fox subsidiary reports

“They were hurling racial insults they were calling me ‘Ching Chong,’ ‘C***k,’ ‘Chinese virus,’” Kim said. “They told me to go back to China.”

Kim, who served in the United States Air Force, said he has been the target of racist comments before. He also said his friend showed up at the right moment that night and scared the attackers away.

“Definitely glad I was there,” Joseph Cha said. “Thankful to God I was there.”

https://abc17news.com/news/national-world/2021/02/25/hate-crimes-against-asian-americans-increase-during-pandemic/

Looks like the Asians will have to protect themselves again.
Like during the 1992 riots, from the same type of people.

whysobecause

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

New York times today continuing the reporting on racist attacks and abuse.



https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/nyregion/asian-hate-crimes-attacks-ny.html

When will you post an Anti-Asian attack story,were the aggression is done by a White person.

whysobecause

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

More anti Asian racism rearing its ugly head

University of Southampton lecturer 'beaten up in racist attack'



https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-56209881

Good job, you finally posted a news story were the racist attack was carried out by White people.

whysobecause

whysobecause wrote: »

Good job, you finally posted a news story were the racist attack was carried out by White people.

An attack which included racial slurs.

fantaiscool

fantaiscool wrote: »

Maybe he realizes that since he's not black he doesn't really know what it's like and what difficulties they face? Unfortunately he's not like some white people who seem to be experts on what black people go through.

Sure.. but I'm a little bemused by the assumption that people/posters are supposedly claiming that they understand what Black people face...

We can appreciate some of what they face, which provides a degree of perspective, because we've all experienced some forms of discrimination, and others have faced actual racism directed towards them while living/working in non-white nations.

This just seems like another attempt, in a long line of similar attempts, to shutdown opinions that don't match a certain theme.. ie. the BLM theme.

So.. I'm curious. Should all the non-black people who have supported BLM or been active in race related civil rights just shut up, and go home, because they don't know what it's like to be black?