Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

stephenjmcd

This suggests then that the nightly figures aren't being broken down into acute beds and that the headline figure covers both ICU and acute beds as was suggested last night

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1283806474431602690?s=19

US2

fritzelly wrote: »

Hmmm what is that supposed to mean - possibly not new infections, just ones we're finding thru testing

It means people testing positive this week picked up the virus last week, and that we can suppress it even more, which I highly doubt unless we shut everything down forever.

ACitizenErased

Positivity rate remains very very low - Prof Nolan

Clonmel1000

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

21 new cases

1 death (RIP)

RIP to all the people who died across Ireland today and everyday from a myriad of illnesses.

fritzelly

Peak of infection we were at 200 per 100k (and we were barely testing anyone!)
Now at 3.91 - we're doomed

ronano

I think I might have missed Dr Ronan Glynn saying the cases per 100,000. Anyone know what is it for the last week?

Atlantic Dawn

ChikiChiki wrote: »

That dickhead on virgin media news there on Grafton Street. "Why would I wear a mask when it won't affect me. I'm only 25".

Absolute fool. Don't mind anyone else sure.

The arsehole in question...
https://twitter.com/somm_philip/status/1283807002376974336

manofwisdom

7 day average is 20 cases a day and we had 21 cases today yet the media are all talking up a second wave..

ACitizenErased

ronano wrote: »

I think I might have missed Dr Ronan Glynn saying the cases per 100,000. Anyone know what is it for the last week?

3.9

ChikiChiki

The line graph showing the overall picture is noticeably on the way back up. Quite telling. It won't be as steep as the first wave but telling all the same.

ACitizenErased

"Very difficult to accurately estimate reproduction number" - Prof. Nolan

fritzelly

R0 best guess is 1.4

1.8 was the only real figure yesterday for headline news and fearmongering

quartz1

Did Professor Nolan say that 1 in 5.are either directly or indirectly associated with travel ?

Doctor Jimbob

fritzelly wrote: »

R0 best guess is 1.4

1.8 was the only real figure yesterday for headline news and fearmongering

In all fairness if that R is based on the last number of days rather than a snapshot of a day or two I can see why there's some concern. 1.4 is a pretty big increase from the previous estimates.

ACitizenErased

I'm not a big fan of how they're putting all the burden on most of the population when travel inwards is still a massive issue

Doctor Jimbob

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm not a big fan of how they're putting all the burden on most of the population when travel inwards is still a massive issue

Varadkar was talking about testing for incoming passengers from hotspots earlier.

I'm not quite sure why they're just talking about it rather than doing it right enough.

fritzelly

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

In all fairness if that R is based on the last number of days rather than a snapshot of a day or two I can see why there's some concern. 1.4 is a pretty big increase from the previous estimates.

Shows its pointless referring to it at this stage
Yesterday it was 1.2 to 1.8 - everyone only talking about 1.8
Today best guess is it's 1.4
World of difference

Next week it could be 0.5

ACitizenErased

They're dying to re-open the schools

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1283808703444070408

is_that_so

fritzelly wrote: »

This second wave is outta control

Back to 2km post haste!

stephenjmcd

Rte rolling out Geroge Lee this evening... fantastic

ACitizenErased

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1283809877392007168?s=20

What Username Guidelines

stephenjmcd wrote: »

This suggests then that the nightly figures aren't being broken down into acute beds and that the headline figure covers both ICU and acute beds as was suggested last night

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1283806474431602690?s=19

I’ve seen the numbers reported that way by journalists but the hse operations report doesn’t line up. Example, there is someone in ICU in mercy but the acute bed graph has none shown. Same last week, Tallaght showed none in general beds but one in ICU.

Atlantic Dawn

is_that_so wrote: »

Back to 2km post haste!

I don't think they will have the support of the public for a new 2km restriction again with our airports wide open. I certainly wouldn't be happy being stopped and questioned about my movements at a checkpoint when thousands of people are arriving in to the country each day with the vast majority unchecked as to their health or future movements.

ACitizenErased

"I don't think NPHETs message is confusing"

That's a shot at the government

KrustyUCC

George Lee scaremongering on RTE now

ACitizenErased

Zara King's actually quite good tonight I'm surprised

drunkmonkey

KrustyUCC wrote: »

George Lee scaremongering on RTE now

It's why it called TV programming.

stephenjmcd

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

I’ve seen the numbers reported that way by journalists but the hse operations report doesn’t line up. Example, there is someone in ICU in mercy but the acute bed graph has none shown. Same last week, Tallaght showed none in general beds but one in ICU.

Yeah which is what my understanding of it was, 1 number was acute beds and the other was ICU. Not that the main number was the total of both

fritzelly

Has Zara King being back to journalism school

GooglePlus

I understand why Russia is getting the third degree for potentially trying to hack and steal vaccine research but why the hell should they have to do that to see this research? Vaccine research should be shared globally, no?

Harry Palmr

It's clear enough that NPHET/Glynn have a quite different view on travel to the government.

FLOOPER

KrustyUCC wrote: »

George Lee scaremongering on RTE now

Exactly because facts are just lies.

ACitizenErased

NPHET has no input into the green list. F*ck me.

GooglePlus

fritzelly wrote: »

Has Zara King being back to journalism school

She's a national treasure.

ACitizenErased

Harry Palmr wrote: »

It's clear enough that NPHET/Glynn have a quite different view on travel to the government.

Glynn is not happy with the government, this press conference has basically confirmed that

quartz1

1 in 5 cases are travel related but their going to ignore it and blame every other factor ...i don't understand it

ACitizenErased

quartz1 wrote: »

1 in 5 cases are travel related but their going to ignore it and blame every other factor ...i don't understand it

I'm thinking this is not NPHET's fault.

Harry Palmr

Will Fr Martin sack his public health team?!

stephenjmcd

Let's see how many others do the same

https://twitter.com/whelansbar1/status/1283553604088082434?s=19

Hurrache

quartz1 wrote: »

1 in 5 cases are travel related but their going to ignore it and blame every other factor ...i don't understand it

But what's the ratio of Irish people bringing it back, or people visiting the country bringing it in?

Itssoeasy

KrustyUCC wrote: »

George Lee scaremongering on RTE now

As opposed to doing something else ? George lee was the guy who on twitter said "great!" When the German lab results were added into the total numbers whenever that was. I'd no issue with the numbers been added to give an accurate number but I don't think tweeting "great!" is an acceptable response from a journalist from our national broadcaster.

Rob A. Bank

KrustyUCC wrote: »

George Lee scaremongering on RTE now

Shooting messengers seems to be the main recreational amusement for some.

Hurrache

"100% safe environment" he claims. Is it hermetically sealed and everyone is tested negative before entry?

wadacrack

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Let's see how many others do the same

https://twitter.com/whelansbar1/status/1283553604088082434?s=19

Not the best idea to post that on twitter

Storm 10

Any county by county figures

ACitizenErased

Storm 10 wrote: »

Any county by county figures

none yet

Atlantic Dawn

Great question, zero have arisen from pubs operating as restaurants.

jammiedodgers

"Twitter is not a great source of epidemiological data"

:D

Martina1991

Boggles wrote:

There is no data to support a huge increase in testing outside hospital, care settings, etc. The rise in testing was because they went in and did another wave of proactive sweeps. We have plenty of testing capacity in the system.

Community testing relies on the public to come forward if they experience any symptom no matter how mild. The message from NPHET has been for a while now to come forward and contact your GP to be tested.

But we are seeing that even those who were contact traced and required to be tested are just refusing to do it.

We can target testing in controlled healthcare environments but we can't control the public.