Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

ShineOn7

caveat emptor wrote: »

Fvck me that’s controversial........

Thierry Henry handling the ball twice against Ireland is controversial

I'm just sharing some thoughts

owlbethere

How will they decide who gets the vaccine when it comes out?

owlbethere

owlbethere wrote: »

How will they decide who gets the vaccine when it comes out?

Who knows but depending on availability imagine it would be at risk groups first and then gen pop.

ShineOn7

owlbethere wrote: »

How will they decide who gets the vaccine when it comes out?

The Hunger Games: Ireland

Polar101

DubInMeath wrote: »

Who knows but depending on availability imagine it would be at risk groups first and then gen pop.

And after those, the 5G crowd.

Santy2015

ShineOn7 wrote: »

The Hunger Games: Ireland

May the odds be ever in your favour

mountgomery burns

Varadkar has in the past week:

- Fired shots at those who tried to turn death rates into a nations league table and derived "perverse pleasure" from it in order to have a go at the government
-He said that the incidence at the moment shouldn't be cause for Phase 4 deferral
- He said international travel to green listed country is akin to a weekend in Killarney or Dublin

As a direct contradiction of those points he has also in the past week:
-Mentioned how the slight increase is no cause for alarm as we are ranked 8/31 for incidence per 100k in Europe (a nations league if you will)
-Told us we may not even move to Phase 4 in 3.5 weeks time
-Also promoted a message of essential travel only, holiday at home

There were 6 Fine Gael ministers with a vote at cabinet yesterday. If you don't agree with the outcome, don't forget that fact.

caveat emptor

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Thierry Henry handling the ball twice against Ireland is controversial

I'm just sharing some thoughts

Haha, that it was.
In that case there was nothing we could do.
In this case I feel the same.
The french FA wins based on advertising revenue.
We might get something in the enquires.

Atlantic Dawn

Nursing home deaths here covered now on Prime Time on RTE1.

JP Liz V1

fritzelly wrote: »

He wasn't the only one - Mattie McGrath

Not so "Woke" in the Dail

podgeandrodge

ACitizenErased wrote: »

House party cluster in Co. Derry. Mobile testing unit set up in the town to prevent spread.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2020/0716/1153799-derry-covid-cluster/

"Social gatherings in private residences have been an issue on both sides of the border."

I dunno, sorta glad they are having it in their houses, at least they aren't going to my local. Hopefully they will contain it to the people responsible. I get the feeling that people having house parties seem to take more risks than those of us under the watchful eye of some form of oversight i.e. the publican having to impose distancing.

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/jackiefox_/status/1283840429058908160

NH2013

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jackiefox_/status/1283840429058908160

Does that include historic antibody test numbers or just the live PCR test numbers from the past 24 hours?

ShineOn7

I was going to post this in the R0 or Second Wave thread, but maybe the main thread is best

Seen on Reddit Ireland, again from Laura. Her background is in a Science lab/something medical if I'm remembering right. She's been very on the ball with a lot of things upto now

If we don't lower our reproductive number, we will have hundreds of cases daily within a few weeks

This must've been the debate you mentioned Citizen?

When I heard the R0 number earlier I got quite worried. I'm hoping you're right and she's wrong

MickeyLeari

Ficheall wrote: »

Is one of these overall and one over a more recent timeframe, or what's going on?

Allows for two messages. Last week was all travel. This week it is house parties. Next week it will be BBQs and people meeting in toilets.

Polar101

NH2013 wrote: »

Does that include historic antibody test numbers or just the live PCR test numbers from the past 24 hours?

Worldmeters shows 1,361 new cases, so I guess that means the antibody numbers weren't included in that lower figure.

ACitizenErased

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jackiefox_/status/1283840429058908160

Most of those are in Barcelona, which has had an issue for a while now

stephenjmcd

Polar101 wrote: »

Worldmeters shows 1,361 new cases, so I guess that means the antibody numbers weren't included in that lower figure.

Here's the breakdown by region. 2 regions, one of which is under lockdown reporting the majority of cases.

https://www.mscbs.gob.es/profesionales/saludPublica/ccayes/alertasActual/nCov-China/documentos/Actualizacion_164_COVID-19.pdf

ACitizenErased

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I was going to post this in the R0 or Second Wave thread, but maybe the main thread is best

Seen on Reddit Ireland, again from Laura. Her background is in a Science lab/something medical if I'm remembering right, she's been very on the ball with a lot of things upto now



This must've been the debate you mentioned Citizen?

When I heard the R0 number earlier I got quite worried. I'm hoping you're right and she's wrong

She's right in a sense (if it's 1.2 we won't see cases in the 100s) but she refuses to take into account that the current r-number has been heavily influenced by the recent clusters.

MickeyLeari

ACitizenErased wrote: »

She's right in a sense (if it's 1.2 we won't see cases in the 100s) but she refuses to take into account that the current r-number has been heavily influenced by the recent clusters.

I predict lower daily cases and a lower R this day next week.

Hego Damask

Starting to run riot in Spain again

bettyoleary

Its totally obvious that anywhere groups open up in enclosed spaces the virus spreads, Schools, pups, nightclubs, planes. What is the problem with understanding if you dont want the virus to spread you cant do these things?????????????????????

ACitizenErased

MickeyLeari wrote: »

I predict lower daily cases and a lower R this day next week.

I do too but we shall see!

JP Liz V1

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jackiefox_/status/1283840429058908160

Who is planning to holiday in Spain this year

ShineOn7

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Who is planning to holiday in Spain this year

Many, many Irish

It's probably in the thousands tbh

bettyoleary

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Many, many Irish

It's probably in the thousands tbh

Well thats no bother the virus will spread. Go to Spain allow people into the country from USA. Open pubs and carry on as normal and a lockdown will happen again.

fritzelly

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Who is planning to holiday in Spain this year

Me...hmmm...nope

Strumms

bettyoleary wrote: »

Its totally obvious that anywhere groups open up in enclosed spaces the virus spreads, Schools, pups, nightclubs, planes. What is the problem with understanding if you dont want the virus to spread you cant do these things?????????????????????

Greed, simple

ceadaoin.

I noticed that new zealand had an imported case from Dublin yesterday. Usually when you're at the point of exporting cases, there's a pretty high number of infections because if there wasn't the odds are extremely low that a single traveler would have the virus. This was certainly the case during the earlier outbreaks in china and italy. People traveling to and from there brought it around the world before anyone even realized. I hope this doesn't mean that the virus is still bubbling away under the surface in dublin.

ShineOn7

bettyoleary wrote: »

Well thats no bother the virus will spread. Go to Spain allow people into the country from USA. Open pubs and carry on as normal and a lockdown will happen again.

I'm not going to Spain

Thousands of Irish idiots will though. And tens of thousands of British

bettyoleary

bettyoleary wrote: »

Well thats no bother the virus will spread. Go to Spain allow people into the country from USA. Open pubs and carry on as normal and a lockdown will happen again.

Its no point saying no body will abide this time. They will have too and many more people in Ireland will loose their lively hoods. Its happening. I wish people would stop being annoyed and acting as if nothings happening. It is and its not going away. I se young people saying ah yes but in Brazil and India young ones died because they are a third world country. Id like to put a load of Irish 20- 30 yr olds against Brazilians and tell you who is the fittest. The Brazilians from the favellas are playing football are on the beach every day doing exercise. They arnt pasty fat fellsa here slugging pints in pubs and snorting Coke. They are in the sun and are way fitter. Who in Ireland are on par with Brazillian footballers. The only reason more young ones die there is bcos they dont have facillities in hospitals.

robbiezero

Strumms wrote: »

Greed, simple

Greed from who?

ACitizenErased

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I noticed that new zealand had an imported case from Dublin yesterday. Usually when you're at the point of exporting cases, there's a pretty high number of infections because if there wasn't the odds are extremely low that a single traveler would have the virus. This was certainly the case during the earlier outbreaks in china and italy. People traveling to and from there brought it around the world before anyone even realized. I hope this doesn't mean that the virus is still bubbling away under the surface in dublin.

I doubt there's anything hiding in Dublin to be honest, nearly all daily cases come from there

Arghus

Vintners Federation Guy on the tonight show, talking absolute bollocks.

"I don't like the connotation between drunkeness and pubs."

Remember guys, the pubs admitted themselves in March that they couldn't enforce social distancing.

opinionated3

There's no end to this is there? Today has been utterly depressing. No good news on the horizon. Predictions of new lockdowns and massive numbers of permanent job losses.
Bring on the vaccine ASAP....

Jim_Hodge

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I noticed that new zealand had an imported case from Dublin yesterday. Usually when you're at the point of exporting cases, there's a pretty high number of infections because if there wasn't the odds are extremely low that a single traveler would have the virus. This was certainly the case during the earlier outbreaks in china and italy. People traveling to and from there brought it around the world before anyone even realized. I hope this doesn't mean that the virus is still bubbling away under the surface in dublin.

Of course it's bubbling away under the surface. It's still around.

bodhrandude

bettyoleary wrote: »

Its totally obvious that anywhere groups open up in enclosed spaces the virus spreads, Schools, pups, nightclubs, planes. What is the problem with understanding if you dont want the virus to spread you cant do these things?????????????????????

Cute wee furry things, we're doomed. :eek::D

Non solum non ambulabit

Strumms wrote: »

Greed, simple

Churches & schools do not equate to greed in my book

YFlyer

Company I'm with used to be based on the campus of University of Limerick. Before Covid the company moved to Castletroy Industry Park. Heard if company was still on the UL campus it would have been near impossible to run as normal.

This is serious connotation for private companies on public grounds.

US2

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I'm not going to Spain

Thousands of Irish idiots will though. And tens of thousands of British

I'm due to go on the 27th to Barcelona. Unless my flights cancelled im going. I'd rather get covid than lose out on 1200 euros.

ShineOn7

opinionated3 wrote: »

There's no end to this is there? Today has been utterly depressing. No good news on the horizon. Predictions of new lockdowns and massive numbers of permanent job losses.
Bring on the vaccine ASAP....

The vaccine is far from a guarantee too I'm afraid

Many of them fail at Phase 3

US2

US2 wrote: »

I'm due to go on the 27th to Barcelona. Unless my flights cancelled im going. I'd rather get covid than lose out on 1200 euros.

If you get it, do the right thing and don't fly back till it's gone.

gipi

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I noticed that new zealand had an imported case from Dublin yesterday. Usually when you're at the point of exporting cases, there's a pretty high number of infections because if there wasn't the odds are extremely low that a single traveler would have the virus. This was certainly the case during the earlier outbreaks in china and italy. People traveling to and from there brought it around the world before anyone even realized. I hope this doesn't mean that the virus is still bubbling away under the surface in dublin.

Where did you see Dublin mentioned? I had a look at the site below, it mentions Italy as the source

https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/1-new-case-covid-19-8

There is one new case of COVID-19 to report in managed isolation in New Zealand today.

It has been 76 days since the last case of COVID-19 was acquired locally from an unknown source.

Today’s case is the child of two people previously reported as having COVID-19. They arrived in New Zealand from Italy on July 4. The family is in quarantine at the Commodore Hotel in Christchurch.

One previously reported case is now considered to have recovered, so the number of active cases of COVID-19 in New Zealand remains at 27.

The total number of confirmed cases is now 1,198, which is the number we report to the World Health Organization.

ShineOn7

US2 wrote: »

I'm due to go on the 27th to Barcelona. Unless my flights cancelled im going. I'd rather get covid than lose out on 1200 euros.

Er


Ok


On that note I think it's time for bed

US2

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If you get it, do the right thing and don't fly back till it's gone.

If I do get it, chances are I wont even know I have it

JP Liz V1

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I noticed that new zealand had an imported case from Dublin yesterday. Usually when you're at the point of exporting cases, there's a pretty high number of infections because if there wasn't the odds are extremely low that a single traveler would have the virus. This was certainly the case during the earlier outbreaks in china and italy. People traveling to and from there brought it around the world before anyone even realized. I hope this doesn't mean that the virus is still bubbling away under the surface in dublin.

I thought NZ had banned flights incoming

US2

US2 wrote: »

If I do get it, chances are I wont even know I have it

It'll be easier to spot in your parents.

Spanish Eyes

We go to Spain several times a year, we are fortunate to be able to do it and I am thankful for that.

But no travel at all outside Ireland for us for the foreseeable. Not worth it, and the OH is not keen on cramming into an aircraft either and the hassle real or imagined of airports either side.

It really is ramping up in Spain, and they did so well. I reckon they should have told the Brits to go to feck and stay away, but YouTube is full of clips from places like Benidorm (face palm) etc. really bigging it up and telling people things are opening up and come on over. It was bound to be a disaster.

Have a look at Spain Speaks on YT. Quite informative and nearly daily updates from someone who lives in Madrid and has finger on the pulse. He just got back from Lugo up North and then it was closed down.

Must be very scary for them. The balance of tourism v health is not working now. Spain probably needs to not rely on tourism to the extent that it does. But that's easy for me to say.

ACitizenErased

gipi wrote: »

Where did you see Dublin mentioned? I had a look at the site below, it mentions Italy as the source

https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/1-new-case-covid-19-8

Covid 19 coronavirus: Ashley Bloomfield's update - two new cases from Pakistan, Dublin


https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12348201

ceadaoin.

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought NZ had banned flights incoming

No, I think its just citizens, residents and essential travel only and they have to quarantine in specific hotels for 2 weeks. Flights have to keep running