Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Spanish Eyes

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fascinating thing to look back on, this is the HSE report from the peak of hospitalisations on the 14th of April. 884 people in hospital at 2pm that day.
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-update-20-00-14-april-2020.pdf

Which started from 1 case though. And I appreciate the limited knowledge we have now wasn't really there at that time either.

Wolf359f

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fascinating thing to look back on, this is the HSE report from the peak of hospitalisations on the 14th of April. 884 people in hospital at 2pm that day.
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-update-20-00-14-april-2020.pdf

That's surreal, I'm actually shocked looking back on it. To see those kind of numbers is just eye watering. Almost feels like a lifetime ago.

Wolf359f

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

You know what, at this stage I wait to see what happens next week or in a few days time, sometimes the news is very positive, but then again it rebounds back to caution, careful, rising numbers. What a rollercoaster.

Quite browned off now. But what can I do. I suppose it is the same gig for many too.

I think all the caution coming from Government and the media is basically, we need to change our habits NOW and not wait and see in a week. Because in a weeks time it will be too late.
Back in March many criticized the Government for not acting quicker with lock down measures, now people feel they are acting too fast or being too negative.

DevilsHaircut

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I think I'll pass on the social media star doctor.

But you'll spend a long time trawling twitter in the working day looking for anything that remotely contradicts him.

rubbledoubledo

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

The story has been published in the Irish Times.

But please carry on looking for Twitter replies that support your position.

It just smacks of desperation.

https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1284231612113260546

Just back from Killarney after visiting my sister. Lots of Tourists there. No one wearing masks. I see one minibus taxi, 7 guys got out in front of the Plaza hotel, no one wearing a mask including the driver. Drove up the Main Street, fair share of Americans there, lots of English Regs in the carparks, fairly shocked now , no one with masks, to be honest just 2 people with a mask on. Wait for it guys

ACitizenErased

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

But you'll spend a long time trawling twitter in the working day looking for anything that remotely contradicts him.

Nah I just take tweets as equal weight because none of them are 100% true, idk why you're so obsessed with what this one doctor said, there's other doctors on there contradicting him. Are they lying?

caveat emptor

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fascinating thing to look back on, this is the HSE report from the peak of hospitalisations on the 14th of April. 884 people in hospital at 2pm that day.
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-update-20-00-14-april-2020.pdf

That chart with daily cases should be entitled “That escalated quickly....”

First two weeks of March seem similar to now. The fact reproductive rate isn’t as high and people’s awareness will mitigate he crazy numbers this time. I think it will tick up though.

Wolf359f

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

The story has been published in the Irish Times.

But please carry on looking for Twitter replies that support your position.

It just smacks of desperation.

https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1284231612113260546

The article does also state "He also said some of the referrals may be down to the use of the app which tells people to contact their doctor if they have certain symptoms"
The twitter Doctor had days with 8 and 10 referrals before Friday, do doctors receive the results? Be nice if he could add information about how many of those 18 tested positive.

Spanish Eyes

caveat emptor wrote: »

That chart with daily cases should be entitled “That escalated quickly....”

First two weeks of March seem similar to now. The fact reproductive rate isn’t as high and people’s awareness will mitigate he crazy numbers this time. I think it will tick up though.

I hope I don't come across as being negative, and really hope the curve is flattened now despite a bit of a spike in new cases.

But it all started with one person back in the day.

Anyway will try to stay positive as I have been all along, but there doesn't seem to be any way out of this for a long while sadly.

Wolf359f

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I hope I don't come across as being negative, and really hope the curve is flattened now despite a bit of a spike in new cases.

But it all started with one person back in the day.

Anyway will try to stay positive as I have been all along, but there doesn't seem to be any way out of this for a long while sadly.

It started with 1 person in Wuhan. the Irish cases were seeded from travel and it was a lot more than a single case. I seem to recall at a press conference something like 44 initial cases related to travel set everything in motion. I cant remember the exact figure. But many multiples of 1.

I'm also trying to stay positive and hoping cases stabilize quickly and all the media hype and messages from the government are meant as a warning shot to the public to not be complacent.

JP Liz V1

Micky 32 wrote: »

Looks like France,Spain and Portugal won’t be on the greenlist.

From the RTE news app

“The implication is that the risk of contracting the virus while on holidays in any of those countries is very much higher than in Ireland. So Sweden, Portugal, Spain, the UK, or France will not be included on Ireland's 'Green List' next week.”

I knew Spain over case increases more lockdown was a doubt

Micky 32

ACitizenErased wrote: »

idk why you're so obsessed with what this one doctor said,

Because the said doctor feeds the doom and gloom in some people, then when you post tweets that might tell a different story they then get all defensive incase it bursts the doom and gloom bubble they like to be trapped inside of.

DevilsHaircut

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Nah I just take tweets as equal weight because none of them are 100% true, idk why you're so obsessed with what this one doctor said, there's other doctors on there contradicting him. Are they lying?

Source?

Other than your fellow full-time 'data analyst', who handily presented you with a misattributed source after getting the OP/tweet source wrong.

IDK why you're so obsessed with trawling the internet and posting anything that contradicts the actual facts.


https://twitter.com/DrZeroCraic/status/1284103814568607745

Spanish Eyes

Clarity is needed re the Green lists.

Only essential travel surely.

Is travel to the non Green list countries banned?, no but people are expected to just self isolate. Mucho Laughos there.

JP Liz V1

Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and daughter Aradhya admitted to Nanavati Hospital for COVID-19

stephenjmcd

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Source?

Other than your fellow full-time 'data analyst', who handily presented you with a misattributed source after getting the OP/tweet source wrong.

God forbid I'd get a source of a tweet wrong. A retweet of said tweet by Richard Chambers which came up on my timeline earlier. We can't all be perfect and I did correct i yet you seem outraged that the source was wrong.

Nice of you to have another little pop with the data analyst comment, yes i have a degree with the specialist subject being data analysis so again whats your point here?? If you want to make personal comments feel free to PM me.

1 GP says I see an increase others counteract his view and say I see no increase, others say they see increases. All contain equal weight if you take them at face value, doesn't mean these referals test postive.

Not sure what your outrage is about here

Spanish Eyes

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and daughter Aradhya admitted to Nanavati Hospital for COVID-19

And that is relevant to ROI why? thanks.

Jackman25

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Source?

Other than your fellow full-time 'data analyst', who handily presented you with a misattributed source after getting the OP/tweet source wrong.

IDK why you're so obsessed with trawling the internet and posting anything that contradicts the actual facts.


https://twitter.com/DrZeroCraic/status/1284103814568607745

Calm down will ya.
People looking at the comments in a tweet linked on this thread is hardly "trawling the internet".

mandrake04

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Clarity is needed re the Green lists.

Only essential travel surely.

Is travel to the non Green list countries banned?, no but people are expected to just self isolate. Mucho Laughos there.

Green lists are a crock, the lesson obviously has yet to be learnt then they will knock that on the head.

Deeper Blue

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Aishwarya Rai Bachchan and daughter Aradhya admitted to Nanavati Hospital for COVID-19

Who in the name of god are they?

Micky 32

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Only essential travel surely.

.

I doubt it. A green list means no quarantine required full stop.

Coveney has said it’s no more risky travelling to a country with similiar infections than it is travelling to Killarney or Donegal.

Spanish Eyes

mandrake04 wrote: »

Green lists are a crock, the lesson obviously has yet to be learnt then they will knock that on the head.

Time to do that is now really.

But the new Gov doesn't seem to want to make decisions on what is very good advice and information from Nphet.

I will never forgive Stephen Donnelly and MM if they don't just decide what is best for our country now. Idiots dithering around the Convention Centre.

I doubt anyone cares anymore what the new rules might be, but a clear and decisive message would be good for everyone. Not happening. They are all over the place.

Spanish Eyes

Micky 32 wrote: »

I doubt it. A green list means no quarantine required full stop.

Coveney has said it’s no more risky travelling to a country with similiar infections than it is travelling to Killarney or Donegal.

Yes I know about the Green lists, but they need to hammer home that it is not a way to have a holiday abroad either, just essential travel.

As for the non Green lists that's a joke. As if anyone will monitor self isolation for 14 days, unless they are totally banned from entering (apart from citizens and the usual caveats). NO, that won't happen either, rely on self isolation. Am totally sick of all the rules WE have to observe but when it comes to international travel it seems anything goes.

Back in yer bunker you Irish resident lol and do what you are told.

Wolf359f

mandrake04 wrote: »

Green lists are a crock, the lesson obviously has yet to be learnt then they will knock that on the head.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Time to do that is now really.

But the new Gov doesn't seem to want to make decisions on what is very good advice and information from Nphet.

I will never forgive Stephen Donnelly and MM if they don't just decide what is best for our country now. Idiots dithering around the Convention Centre.

I doubt anyone cares anymore what the new rules might be, but a clear and decisive message would be good for everyone. Not happening. They are all over the place.

Clear and decisive.... haven't they being saying or advising all along about having no non-essential travel?

I can remember when people were complaining that the CMO was running the country. Soon as the government go against NPHET they forget about that.
Soon as the

Micky 32

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Yes I know about the Green lists, but they need to hammer home that it is not a way to have a holiday abroad either, just essential travel.

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I’m guessing you didn’t read the second part of my post? If you have i will presume you want to hammer home travelling around Ireland should be essential only. 2 new cases in the far reaches of Donegal today.

JP Liz V1

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

And that is relevant to ROI why? thanks.

El Sueño wrote: »

Who in the name of god are they?

Indian actress, L'oreal model



I mention her as she is another quite high profile positive case like Tom Hanks was

ZX7R

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Indian actress, L'oreal model



I mention her as she is another quite high profile positive case like Tom Hanks was

Tom Hanks ok
But still never heard of them or recall seeing her before

quartz1

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Time to do that is now really.

But the new Gov doesn't seem to want to make decisions on what is very good advice and information from Nphet.

I will never forgive Stephen Donnelly and MM if they don't just decide what is best for our country now. Idiots dithering around the Convention Centre.

I doubt anyone cares anymore what the new rules might be, but a clear and decisive message would be good for everyone. Not happening. They are all over the place.

Couldn't agree more with you

DevilsHaircut

stephenjmcd wrote: »

God forbid I'd get a source of a tweet wrong. A retweet of said tweet by Richard Chambers which came up on my timeline earlier. We can't all be perfect and I did correct i yet you seem outraged that the source was wrong.

Nice of you to have another little pop with the data analyst comment, yes i have a degree with the specialist subject being data analysis so again whats your point here?? If you want to make personal comments feel free to PM me.

1 GP says I see an increase others counteract his view and say I see no increase, others say they see increases. All contain equal weight if you take them at face value, doesn't mean these referals test postive.

Not sure what your outrage is about here

You're delighted with your degree, I can see.

But are you wearing a mask on the bus to your work?

DevilsHaircut

stephenjmcd wrote: »

God forbid I'd get a source of a tweet wrong. A retweet of said tweet by Richard Chambers which came up on my timeline earlier. We can't all be perfect and I did correct i yet you seem outraged that the source was wrong.

Nice of you to have another little pop with the data analyst comment, yes i have a degree with the specialist subject being data analysis so again whats your point here?? If you want to make personal comments feel free to PM me.

1 GP says I see an increase others counteract his view and say I see no increase, others say they see increases. All contain equal weight if you take them at face value, doesn't mean these referals test postive.

Not sure what your outrage is about here

Bit of an over-reaction

Strazdas

rubbledoubledo wrote: »

Just back from Killarney after visiting my sister. Lots of Tourists there. No one wearing masks. I see one minibus taxi, 7 guys got out in front of the Plaza hotel, no one wearing a mask including the driver. Drove up the Main Street, fair share of Americans there, lots of English Regs in the carparks, fairly shocked now , no one with masks, to be honest just 2 people with a mask on. Wait for it guys

The nationality of people is largely irrelevant.

Of far more interest is whether people in general are following social distancing (especially indoors) or wearing a face mask.

Ten of Swords

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Funny how the 'data analysts' who are full-time on this thread

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

full-time 'data analyst'

Give it a rest, any more of these not so subtle references will earn a card

stephenjmcd

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

You're delighted with your degree, I can see.

But are you wearing a mask on the bus to your work?

What on earth has that got to do with anything ? you got personal and come back with that

Yes I've been in the office once this week using transport and wore one.

Not sure what that has to do with the topic though

stephenjmcd

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Bit of an over-reaction

nope, just wondering what your faux outrage is about

DevilsHaircut

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

You're delighted with your degree, I can see.

But are you wearing a mask on the bus to your work?

Stephen has made great contributions to this thread. You, very little.

Nice of you to continually mock his degree.

Maybe try post something useful yourself?

stephenjmcd

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Stephen has made great contributions to this thread. You, very little.

Nice of you to continually mock his degree.

Maybe try post something useful yourself?

Cheers appreciate it, its just an interest in data picked up during college which lead to taking the data analytics stream for final year.

But sure look such is life you'll never keep everyone happy

SleetAndSnow

Just checked worldometers for the first time in weeks, what the f*** is happening in Iran? Looks like their wave just never ended, its a constant 2.4k or so a day bar a month or so drop. South Africa also looks to be gaining momentum unfortunately, as one of the most developed African countries it leaves you wondering how the others are really doing.

DevilsHaircut

stephenjmcd wrote: »

God forbid I'd get a source of a tweet wrong...We can't all be perfect and I did correct i yet you seem?

I'm neither outraged nor surprised, given that this thread appears to be the closely guarded property of a couple of posters, who are intent on spending all day defending it.

I expect them to make a discreet exit (as the plumber did) when the stats say something they disagree with.

House of Wolves

Anyone have any idea on the turnaround times for test results in Dublin? Got tested on Wednesday and still waiting. Medic said we'd probably head in 24 hours.....

Polar101

El Sueño wrote: »

Who in the name of god are they?

Even I've heard of her and I don't really watch any movies. Why not just scroll past if you aren't interested? It was pretty big Covid-19 related news the other day, so no harm in mentioning it.

JP Liz V1

House of Wolves wrote: »

Anyone have any idea on the turnaround times for test results in Dublin? Got tested on Wednesday and still waiting. Medic said we'd probably head in 24 hours.....

I thought testing times was good here down to 48 hours

DevilsHaircut

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

I'm neither outraged nor surprised, given that this thread appears to be the closely guarded property of a couple of posters, who are intent on spending all day defending it.

I expect them to make a discreet exit (as the plumber did) when the stats say something they disagree with.

Stats are stats lad. We’re all trying our best to understand them each day. Some posters help with that.

Most of us have been here since Jan or Feb.

You seem a bit bitter that other posters are more popular than you?

Maybe post something useful yourself. Slagging other people’s degrees is not a good start.

DevilsHaircut

Some posters on this thread have inexplicably gained 'expert' status.

Bizarrely, one poster said they had assumed that a relentless poster was in fact a doctor in their 40s!

The extent of most of the 'data analysts' work on this thread is to subtract one figure published by the HPSC (today's) from another (yesterday's).

That's quite easy.

JP Liz V1

Strazdas wrote: »

The nationality of people is largely irrelevant.

Of far more interest is whether people in general are following social distancing (especially indoors) or wearing a face mask.

If the Americans are tourists here on holidays (not quarantining) with America a huge Covid hot spot it is relevant

The government and acting CMO are saying holiday in Ireland no non essential holidays trips abroad yet let in flights with tourists from Covid hot spots is quite unfair with no forced quarantine

I think the message needs to be clear and coherent from all parties on travel both incoming and outgoing

DevilsHaircut

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Some posters on this thread have inexplicably gained 'expert' status.

Bizarrely, one poster said they had assumed that a relentless poster was in fact a doctor in their 40s!

The extent of most of the 'data analysts' work on this thread is to subtract one figure published by the HPSC (today's) from another (yesterday's).

That's quite easy.

So nothing useful to post yourself then?

DevilsHaircut

stephenjmcd wrote: »

nope, just wondering what your faux outrage is about

I take it that you're not wearing a mask when you get the bus to work every day?

BTW no faux outrage here - it's all real

caveat emptor

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Cheers appreciate it, its just an interest in data picked up during college which lead to taking the data analytics stream for final year.

But sure look such is life you'll never keep everyone happy

Fair play, we need more people data literate.

I haven't had much faith in the "data" early on. The continual changes in testing criteria etc massively undercut the actual numbers early on.
The 48 hour lag which allowed leaders to look as though they were preemptive when in fact there was a lag to the general public etc.

Situation much better now. I'm concerned about asymptotic spread and the incubation period. This thing can get out of control fast. Hopefully won't be the case.

caveat emptor

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

I'm neither outraged nor surprised, given that this thread appears to be the closely guarded property of a couple of posters, who are intent on spending all day defending it.

I expect them to make a discreet exit (as the plumber did) when the stats say something they disagree with.

I like the fact you called out a bull****ter. Also allows me to post this video which I've plagiarised from someone on this thread. There should be more retrospective bull**** calls.

stephenjmcd

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

I take it that you're not wearing a mask when you get the bus to work every day?

BTW no faux outrage here - it's all real

Well seeing as I've been working from home all week with the exception of 1 day, why would I need to wear a mask at home. Already answered that earlier the 1 day I went into the office which was Wednesday if you need to know that, using public transport I wore one yes.

Would you like to know what bus I took as well ?

fritzelly

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Well seeing as I've been working from home all week with the exception of 1 day, why would I need to wear a mask at home. Already answered that earlier the 1 day I went into the office which was Wednesday if you need to know that, using public transport I wore one yes.

Would you like to know what bus I took as well ?

I think the more important question is what did you have for dinner?