Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Boggles

timsey tiger wrote: »

You'd kind of think that that is a case of too much money and political considerations driving the testing and not actual scientific method.

Ah no, if you can test at that rate constantly that is the preferred scientific method.

Boggles

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Where does that article say UAE have done 4.5 million tests? I can't see it

Worldometer.

bodhrandude

If things couldn't get any better, I know its the Mirror but FFS! We're apparently due a plague of flying ants in a fortnight.

Boggles

bodhrandude wrote: »

If things couldn't get any better, I know its the Mirror but FFS! We're apparently due a plague of flying ants in a fortnight.

The insects take to the skies around this time every year for mating season in a phenomenon known as Flying Ant Day

Absolutely no imagination but into naming that phenomenon.

ShineOn7

Boggles wrote: »

Worldometer.

Cool

It's generally reliable?

I thought I'd read mixed things on here about it a few months back

Non solum non ambulabit

bodhrandude wrote: »

If things couldn't get any better, I know its the Mirror but FFS! We're apparently due a plague of flying ants in a fortnight.

That feels like a UK story that has been adapted for the Irish Mirror.

Strumms

Gruffalox wrote: »

Last year 150 people died on Irish roads, including those in cars, plus pedestrians and cyclists.

Yes correct. And 1753 (so far) have been killed by covid. About 92.5% more than killed on Irish roads in the entirety of last year... and, it’s only July.

ShineOn7

bodhrandude wrote: »

If things couldn't get any better, I know its the Mirror but FFS! We're apparently due a plague of flying ants in a fortnight.

That vid below with the oul lad and the caption "How to rid your house of flying ants" :pac:

Have the media ever been more in full on Fear Porn mode in their history? 9/11 was maybe the closest

They're starting to get hilarious, almost like parody websites

ACitizenErased

Does anyone know what's going on in Portugal? They haven't had a day <100 since May...
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/portugal/

ShineOn7

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Thanks

So we're at 20 on average a day now and were at just 8 cases a day three weeks ago

Early signs of exponential growth?

Isn't that how this bástard works? A slow creep up and slow doubling of numbers until there's a massive spike?

Looks pretty linear, which to me indicates it’s well controlled

bb1234567

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-doctor-reinfected-with-coronavirus-3-months-after-recovering-635550

An Israeli Doctor experienced symptoms in April and tested positive, then recovered and tested negative in both May and June. They now have tested positive again in July after close contact with covid patients.The hospital reports two other cases of patients recovering and testing negative and then coming back to the hospital with symptoms and testing positive.

Not worth getting too excited about yet, but something to keep an eye on, it may suggest that immunity only lasts a couple of months for certain individuals.

With most illnesses there may always be a small number of people who recover but don’t develop or retain resistance.

Beasty

Boggles wrote: »

Absolutely no imagination but into naming that phenomenon.

It's a FAD....

growleaves

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks pretty linear, which to me indicates it’s well controlled

What about the flying ants though? They could be headed this way.

Strumms

Strumms wrote: »

Yes correct. And 1753 (so far) have been killed by covid. About 92.5% more than killed on Irish roads in the entirety of last year... and, it’s only July.

More like 1200% more

growleaves

growleaves wrote: »

What about the flying ants though? They could be headed this way.

Flying ants who will breath in COVID droplets and spread it around the country

Eod100

Looking like green list will be delayed until later in the week so.

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1284945660383559680

niallo27

Anyone see all these Facebook pictures of the beach's in clare today, people looking for a reaction. The comments are a lot different from a month or so back. At least 50% are saying its outside, great to see people enjoying themselves, most are social distancing, calm the **** down. We were told to staycation but some people still have an issue with this.

charlie14

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Cool

It's generally reliable?

I thought I'd read mixed things on here about it a few months back

For new cases and total deaths it is very reliable.
The daily cases can be off at times because they post the figure released by authorities on a particular day where some may be historical for previous days.

ShineOn7

Deleted User wrote: »

Flying ants who will breath in COVID droplets and spread it around the country

... and ride Yore Ma when you're not looking

JP Liz V1

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/no-one-needs-to-die-from-covid-19-any-more-claims-american-doctor-39377803.html

The combination of cortisone steroid, vitamins and anticoagulants is helping combat the two biggest dangers of the virus - inflammation and clotting - and the Math+ Protocol even managed to help a 92-year-old Covid-19 sufferer undergoing chemotherapy for colon cancer.

"We learned so much in a few months," said Dr Varon, who has treated more than 200 coronavirus patients.

"No one needs to die from coronavirus any more," he said.

ShineOn7

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/no-one-needs-to-die-from-covid-19-any-more-claims-american-doctor-39377803.html

Highly effective treatments will win this. Not a vaccine

I firmly believe this

bb1234567

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/no-one-needs-to-die-from-covid-19-any-more-claims-american-doctor-39377803.html

I'll believe it when I see it being utilised by other doctors, other hospitals, and in other countries. Seen literally dozens of identical claims by international doctors in recent months about some wonder cure that for some reason is never implemented across the world,then complete silence and you never heard a word about it again. Which is odd and would be wasteful if it's as effective and foolproof as claimed, which makes me think they usually aren't!

fritzelly

Eod100 wrote: »

Looking like green list will be delayed until later in the week so.

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1284945660383559680

No surprise there

Wonder will Belgium make the list - little ol' country recording large daily numbers in comparison to Ireland

US2

Strumms wrote: »

Yes correct. And 1753 (so far) have been killed by covid. About 92.5% more than killed on Irish roads in the entirety of last year... and, it’s only July.

Died with covid not killed of it. There's a big difference. Varadkar told us this but no one seems to care ?

iamwhoiam

bb1234567 wrote: »

I'll believe it when I see it. Seen literally dozens of identical claims by international doctors in recent months about some wonder cure that for some reason is never implemented across the world, which is odd if it's as effective as claimed

He is not the first to say that ventilation was not helping Covid patients . Many reports are coming in that anti viral and Vit D plus zinc is an effective treatment in many Covid patients who are very ill

gizmo23

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/no-one-needs-to-die-from-covid-19-any-more-claims-american-doctor-39377803.html

Got cortisone in my knee once and I have no fears of the needle but JAYSUSSSS that thing would put manners on a bull.

If we can find a combination of medicines to get the fatality rate down to something like the flu and take the fear out of this disease it is what's going to beat it and give more time to the vaccine.

JP Liz V1

fritzelly wrote: »

No surprise there

Wonder will Belgium make the list - little ol' country recording large daily numbers in comparison to Ireland

And MM in Brussels who will return not quarantining

Eod100

Eod100 wrote: »

Looking like green list will be delayed until later in the week so.

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1284945660383559680

Ministers want to book their holidays before the mad rush pushes the prices up.

s1ippy

bodhrandude wrote: »

If things couldn't get any better, I know its the Mirror but FFS! We're apparently due a plague of flying ants in a fortnight.

We have a colony of them living under our house so I have to say I'm glad it won't just be us now

Only joking, more of them are the last thing we need. I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. They are very ingenuitive and can get in through grouting and up the drains. Absolute nightmare.

https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-people-foreign-travel-covid-19-survey-5154045-Jul2020/

One in four people saying they may travel abroad this year sounds to me like a high figure.

GooglePlus

Anyone know what the testing turnaround is like and where they are testing in Dublin city centre?

iamwhoiam

In all my years I never knew that flying ants arrived in swarms ? Every year they come out of the cracks in the concrete and annoy everyone for a day or two then dissapper again ? I thought they lived under the paths and grew wings and come out to piss everyone off for s day ?

What Username Guidelines

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/no-one-needs-to-die-from-covid-19-any-more-claims-american-doctor-39377803.html

17 residents in my grandmother’s nursing home caught it, including her 95 year old self.. She was asymptomatic bar a short temperature (hours). None went to hospital afaik. All given anticoagulants prophylactially as they knew it caused blood clots. Five passed away, all of whom had breathing issues and were on oxygen beforehand.

jackboy

niallo27 wrote: »

Anyone see all these Facebook pictures of the beach's in clare today, people looking for a reaction. The comments are a lot different from a month or so back. At least 50% are saying its outside, great to see people enjoying themselves, most are social distancing, calm the **** down. We were told to staycation but some people still have an issue with this.

Yes, a very busy weekend in west Clare with large crowds around. A lot of staycationers but also plenty of foreign tourists. The key thing is that most pubs and restaurants did their best to control things. Of course a small few pubs let things go and full non social distance piss ups were had but these seemed to be a small minority of establishments.

Professor Moriarty

iamwhoiam wrote: »

In all my years I never knew that flying ants arrived in swarms ? Every year they come out of the cracks in the concrete and annoy everyone for a day or two then dissapper again ? I thought they lived under the paths and grew wings and come out to piss everyone off for s day ?

If my ant had balls...

maebee

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is karaoke still a thing, probably yes more now in house parties

I'd rather have covid than be at a karaoke

charlie14

maebee wrote: »

I'd rather have covid than be at a karaoke

Japan closed their karaoke bars when the first infections appeared.
The official reason was that loud voices spread the virus much like coughing.
But as I said before, the real reason could just be that the person making the decision was a music lover.

MickeyLeari

bb1234567 wrote: »

I'll believe it when I see it being utilised by other doctors, other hospitals, and in other countries. Seen literally dozens of identical claims by international doctors in recent months about some wonder cure that for some reason is never implemented across the world,then complete silence and you never heard a word about it again. Which is odd and would be wasteful if it's as effective and foolproof as claimed, which makes me think they usually aren't!

Whatever you think of US politics and their health system, they also have some of the best medics in the world. Doctors from China to Italy to Spain to Ireland to the US are sharing experiences (networks developed in real life conferences) on what has been effective in treating the symptoms of the virus. This is not a cure but it may well be the next best thing - and some of these drugs have already been highlighted as effective so the fact that there is a cocktail of drugs that is having some results is encouraging.

Jinglejangle69

8 people under 65 have died from covid in Ireland.

This is becoming more hysterical by the day.

ACitizenErased

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

8 people under 65 have died from covid in Ireland.

This is becoming more hysterical by the day.

Nearly as hysterical as your username

bb1234567

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

8 people under 65 have died from covid in Ireland.

This is becoming more hysterical by the day.

That's not true, I can't find an updated one for June or July butby 15th May 17 people under 44 had died of covid in Ireland
https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-cdc/covid-19deathsandcases/

And overall by that date 1500 people in Ireland had died of COVID, 8% of those deaths were under 65, that is 120 covid deaths under 65 in Ireland as of 15th May,so it is more by now presumably and if the ratio has stayed the same about 140 deaths under 65.

Wheres your source? I understand your point, and agree to an extent the effect on younger people has been sensationalised, but best not to exaggerate it with made up figures.

jackboy

jackboy wrote: »

Yes, a very busy weekend in west Clare with large crowds around. A lot of staycationers but also plenty of foreign tourists. The key thing is that most pubs and restaurants did their best to control things. Of course a small few pubs let things go and full non social distance piss ups were had but these seemed to be a small minority of establishments.

You do realise that there are a lot of “foreign” people living in this country that would consider a weekend in Clare a staycation.

ShineOn7

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

8 people under 65 have died from covid in Ireland.

This is becoming more hysterical by the day.

Not sure where to even start with your post tbh

fritzelly

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Not sure where to even start with your post tbh

Start with counting his thumbs as well, then on to the toes

Always_Running

Good to see Dr Marus De Brún, twitter account has been taken down. How it last as long as it did was a surprise.

Geuze

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

8 people under 65 have died from covid in Ireland.

This statement is false.

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19_Daily_epidemiology_report_(NPHET)_website%20version1.pdf


See table 5.

108 people under 65 have died.


I have sent you a DM, to make sure you see the correct figure.

Arghus

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

8 people under 65 have died from covid in Ireland.

This is becoming more hysterical by the day.

8% of the total deaths from Covid have been in the under 65's, which means over a hundred people.

Not 8 in total.

It's not hard to try to know the facts.

owlbethere

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

8 people under 65 have died from covid in Ireland.

This is becoming more hysterical by the day.

It never had the chance to run rampant throughout society. It didn't filter down to the majority of the population. We are are not the fittest nation. There's loads of smokers, druggies, people with obesity and other health problems like diabetes etc.

A lot more people would have died if it was allowed to run rampant throughout the population. The hospital system would have collapsed and a lot more people would die.

niallo27

So if your under 65 you roughly have the same chance of being killed in a road accident in ireland as you do by covid. By the end of year the chances of being killed in a road accident will probably be much higher.

Leftwaffe

niallo27 wrote: »

So if your under 65 you roughly have the same chance of being killed in a road accident in ireland as you do by covid. By the end of year the chances of being killed in a road accident will probably be much higher.

Not sure about RTA death rates per year but this isn't the way the virus works. As others have said, there's only been this amount of deaths because of the severe restrictions put in place. Otherwise there would have been significantly more.

I agree there is sensationalism at every turn in the media. The reality, for me, is somewhere in between. Be vigilant, wash your hand, follow the advice. Think about the repercussions for others. I'm relatively young, fit and healthy but it doesn't mean I should go around wrecklessly doing what I want.

D.Q

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

Not sure about RTA death rates per year but this isn't the way the virus works. As others have said, there's only been this amount of deaths because of the severe restrictions put in place. Otherwise there would have been significantly more.

I agree there is sensationalism at every turn in the media. The reality, for me, is somewhere in between. Be vigilant, wash your hand, follow the advice. Think about the repercussions for others. I'm relatively young, fit and healthy but it doesn't mean I should go around wrecklessly doing what I want.

No no no. You're doing this wrong. Pick a side and bunker down.