Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

schmoo2k

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, my point is that an unenforced requirement for restriction of movement (which explicitly allows for outdoor exercise and shopping anyway) is not enough of a deterrent to make any difference between the two lists. Perhaps the announcement will be accompanied by a tightening of the rules for arrivals from non green list countries

...but you could say that about any of the current restrictions?

ACitizenErased

polesheep wrote: »

Looking at your figures, it would seem to suggest that the infected healthcare workers are not infecting the residents in the nursing homes. I think.

There has indeed been very little movement in the older ages recently

Gael23

What second wave?

ACitizenErased

21% of cases in last 2 weeks were travel related so around 50 I think

stephenjmcd

Would be nice to know why 270 cases were reported recently when the actual case numbers were 211.

When did the 59 cases occur and why are they only being reported now.

As has been pointed out for the last week and a half on here, there was quite clearly a discrepancy between tests and reported cases which was flagged most evenings

Plumbthedepths

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So cases more in younger now, will this put house parties off

Nope, young lads and young ones will still socialise, no pubs open so house parties are 1 of only a few options.

Santy2015

ACitizenErased wrote: »

270 cases in last two weeks, median age 34 years.
115 male, 154 female.
83 healthcare workers.
149 in Dublin, 28 in Kildare, 15 in Cork.
78 cases across 17 counties.
11 total cases in hospitals.

Is that definitely 11 including icu??

ACitizenErased

The contact tracing app was utilised less than 2 days after launch and tracked contacts that weren't previously considered

JP Liz V1

is_that_so wrote: »

That's 1 person!

ACitizenErased wrote: »

270 cases in last two weeks, median age 34 years.
115 male, 154 female.
83 healthcare workers.
149 in Dublin, 28 in Kildare, 15 in Cork.
78 cases across 17 counties.
11 total cases in hospitals.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

21% of cases in last 2 weeks were travel related so around 50 I think

More than 1

ACitizenErased

Glynn seems confident about the Oxford vaccine

Danzy

I wonder given people under 30 often have no symptoms is there a growth in the virus in that age group undetected currently.

Situation positive all the same

ACitizenErased

That Dublin construction outbreak has over 20 cases.

Gael23

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Glynn seems confident about the Oxford vaccine

Is it up to him to approve doctors to give it to Irish patients?

expectationlost

20+ cases at the townsend cluster

stephenjmcd

RTE go live to the dept of health, reporting 270 cases in the last 14 days which we now know isn't correct, it was 211 in the last 14 days.
Secondly saying Glynn saying today is a lag, sorry but what around 18k tests in 2 days does not show a decrease in testing over the weekend.

No wonder 75% think there's going to be a second wave

ACitizenErased

Outbreak at a fast food outbreak in Kildare last week, now under control, "significant number" of cases linked to that

is_that_so

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

More than 1

Yeah, but 80% are homegrown.

pc7

What are they seeing in the models that seemed to spark such fear and the push out of pub openings. It doesn’t seem a large spike since we opened more stuff the last few weeks. Hospital numbers looking good too.

ACitizenErased

stephenjmcd wrote: »

RTE go live to the dept of health, reporting 270 cases in the last 14 days which we now know isn't correct, it was 211 in the last 14 days.
Secondly saying Glynn saying today is a lag, sorry but what around 18k tests in 2 days does not show a decrease in testing over the weekend.

I wouldn't entirely believe what he says about lags besides deaths tbh he's trying not to encourage complacency.

rafatoni

expectationlost wrote: »

20+ cases at the townsend cluster

where they included in wknd figures?

ACitizenErased

rafatoni wrote: »

where they included in wknd figures?

he said in last few days so i'd say thursday/friday, dublin was +25 one day

stephenjmcd

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I wouldn't entirely believe what he says about lags besides deaths tbh he's trying not to encourage complacency.

and it works when RTE run with it.

Feeds into the 75% thinking there'll be a second wave

podgeandrodge

I see that:

Dr Glynn added: "We are now seeing outbreaks of the virus in a range of work settings, including in construction, in fast food outlets and in supermarkets. I would remind all employers that the workplace and most particularly, shops, services and supermarkets, are the new front line, we are asking you to do everything you can to put the safety of your staff and customers first. With the increase in outbreaks in our communities, I would urge everyone to wear face coverings in healthcare settings and when shopping, including in the supermarket and other indoor retail services."

In case we didn't catch it the first or second time, his use of the word supermarket for the third time suggests that it appears to be spreading now in supermarkets more than it used to in the last few months? What's going on here - were there supermarket clusters in last few days?

Wild Field 1831

ACitizenErased wrote: »

How many times does it have to be said that we don't have a weekend lag? There were nearly 9000 tests conducted yesterday.

There are some posters who only use the thread infrequently and don't immerse themselves in Covid news 24/7.

I just joined boards.ie a few days ago, a long time lurker, and it seems you treat this thread as some sort of personal fiefdom.

Yesterday I made a comment that I wear masks in indoor settings but feel faint and uncomfortable.

You posted a general post to the effect that.. are there posters seriously saying masks are unhelpful, that you had asthma and they didn't annoy you..

I have a respiratory illness and find them really heavy going for long periods of time, especially in my work environment. There's varying degrees of respiratory illness. As individuals we are free to post how masks make us feel etc. At no time did I suggest wearing masks wasn't helpful in the overall prevention of Covid.

It would be helpful if you left your bullying attitude offline. People have varying degrees of knowledge on Covid. Some haven't the time to be online constantly or haven't the desire.

LiquidZeb

is_that_so wrote: »

Good stuff but it's Monday! Seeming more like we've had a case of the German R0 spike.

I know you're taking the piss but where did the whole x day is usually a slow day come from? Is it something the lads here dreamt up collectively?

blowitupref

stephenjmcd wrote: »

RTE go live to the dept of health, reporting 270 cases in the last 14 days which we now know isn't correct, it was 211 in the last 14 days.
Secondly saying Glynn saying today is a lag, sorry but what around 18k tests in 2 days does not show a decrease in testing over the weekend.

No wonder 75% think there's going to be a second wave

RTÉ are doing their best to keep people in fear..

ACitizenErased

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

There are some posters who only use the thread infrequently and don't immerse themselves in Covid news 24/7.

I just joined boards.ie a few days ago, a long time lurker, and it seems you treat this thread as some sort of personal fiefdom.

Yesterday I made a comment that I wear masks in indoor settings but feel faint and uncomfortable.

You posted a general post to the effect that.. are there posters seriously saying masks are unhelpful, that you had asthma and they didn't annoy you..

I have a respiratory illness and find them really heavy going for long periods of time, especially in my work environment. There's varying degrees of respiratory illness. As individuals we are free to post how masks make us feel etc. At no time did I suggest wearing masks wasn't helpful in the overall prevention of Covid.

It would be helpful if you left your bullying attitude offline. People have varying degrees of knowledge on Covid. Some haven't the time to be online constantly or haven't the desire.

If you have an issue with me you can either PM or report me.

Alf Veedersane

eigrod wrote: »

Explaining the impact the last 4 months has had on healthcare workers, physically and mentally and that many wouldn’t be able for another 4 months like that. Basically a plea to the public to abide by the guidelines for the welfare of those workers.

You could see it on that RTE doc - Inside Ireland's Covid Battle - the toll it was taking on doctors and nurses. And even when restrictions started to lift and people were back out and about, some being lose with the guidance, they were still in the trenches every day.

Jim_Hodge

ACitizenErased wrote: »

How many times does it have to be said that we don't have a weekend lag? There were nearly 9000 tests conducted yesterday.

Ordinarily I'd fully agree but they just said that the Dept of Health said they expect the number to rise tomorrow due to reduced testing over the weekend.

stephenjmcd

expectationlost wrote: »

20+ cases at the townsend cluster

Wasn't bothered watching the press conference in full this evening. Presume this was mentioned during it ?

KrustyUCC

stephenjmcd wrote: »

RTE go live to the dept of health, reporting 270 cases in the last 14 days which we now know isn't correct, it was 211 in the last 14 days.
Secondly saying Glynn saying today is a lag, sorry but what around 18k tests in 2 days does not show a decrease in testing over the weekend.

No wonder 75% think there's going to be a second wave

She conveniently skipped that part

I'm beginning to think they stored the cases to stop the pubs opening

59 cases or 22% is a hell of a descreptancy

Wild Field 1831

ACitizenErased wrote: »

If you have an issue with me you can either PM or report me.

I have an issue with some of your posts which I'm replying to here.

is_that_so

LiquidZeb wrote: »

I know you're taking the piss but where did the whole x day is usually a slow day come from? Is it something the lads here dreamt up collectively?

Oh I'm hoping for the same numbers tomorrow. Holohan did say it a few of the Mondays and that I guess is where it started from. Also Monday UK numbers can be lower so we've this idea that ours will automatically go up a good bit tomorrow.

ACitizenErased

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

I have an issue with some of your posts which I'm replying to here.

this is the covid thread, it's for covid things not me

stephenjmcd

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Ordinarily I'd fully agree but they just said that the Dept of Health said they expect the number to rise tomorrow due to reduced testing over the weekend.

number could well rise but reduced testing is bs. Around 9k tests each day Saturday and Sunday which is around the same as weekdays

polesheep

podgeandrodge wrote: »

I see that:

Dr Glynn added: "We are now seeing outbreaks of the virus in a range of work settings, including in construction, in fast food outlets and in supermarkets. I would remind all employers that the workplace and most particularly, shops, services and supermarkets, are the new front line, we are asking you to do everything you can to put the safety of your staff and customers first. With the increase in outbreaks in our communities, I would urge everyone to wear face coverings in healthcare settings and when shopping, including in the supermarket and other indoor retail services."

In case we didn't catch it the first or second time, his use of the word supermarket for the third time suggests that it appears to be spreading now in supermarkets more than it used to in the last few months? What's going on here - were there supermarket clusters in last few days?

It's classic PR. People have been saying that the supermarkets have been safe, so why wear masks in the supermarket. So push the supermarket angle.

Wild Field 1831

ACitizenErased wrote: »

this is the covid thread, it's for covid things not me

Yes and I'm criticising some of your Covid posts.

ACitizenErased

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Ordinarily I'd fully agree but they just said that the Dept of Health said they expect the number to rise tomorrow due to reduced testing over the weekend.

The only thing that actually reduces over the weekend is the number of swabs taken, which makes sense clearly as people don't want to be taking swabs at the weekends The HSE daily testing update shows that actual lab testing is at it's lowest Tuesday and Wednesday and gradually increases up to Mondays before dropping.

JP Liz V1

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Nope, young lads and young ones will still socialise, no pubs open so house parties are 1 of only a few options.

Do they really need to meet up drunk in large groups, 5 or 6 in an open space like a park, distancing, everyone has a responsibility to act accordingly, to stay safe

Eod100

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That Dublin construction outbreak has over 20 cases.

Just surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Nature of the work means social distancing in practice very difficult.

LiquidZeb

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

Yes and I'm criticising some of your Covid posts.

Well set up a thread to discuss and critique Citizens posts then or contact a mod.

Wild Field 1831

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Well set up a thread to discuss and critique Citizens posts then or contact a mod.

I think you'll find there's a reply button. You can use this function to reply to another poster if you disagree. It's the basis of most fora.

Jim_Hodge

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The only thing that actually reduces over the weekend is the number of swabs taken, which makes sense clearly as people don't want to be taking swabs at the weekends The HSE daily testing update shows that actual lab testing is at it's lowest Tuesday and Wednesday and gradually increases up to Mondays before dropping.

:rolleyes: Yes, as said, reduced weekend testing and they expect increased numbers tomorrow as a result.

Just repeating what they said. Don't take it personally,

ACitizenErased

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

:rolleyes: Yes, as said, reduced weekend testing and they expect increased numbers tomorrow as a result.

Just repeating what they said. Don't take it personally,

I'm not taking it personally. And it's reduced swabs taken, not reduced testing.

is_that_so

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

There are some posters who only use the thread infrequently and don't immerse themselves in Covid news 24/7.

I just joined boards.ie a few days ago, a long time lurker, and it seems you treat this thread as some sort of personal fiefdom.

Yesterday I made a comment that I wear masks in indoor settings but feel faint and uncomfortable.

You posted a general post to the effect that.. are there posters seriously saying masks are unhelpful, that you had asthma and they didn't annoy you..

I have a respiratory illness and find them really heavy going for long periods of time, especially in my work environment. There's varying degrees of respiratory illness. As individuals we are free to post how masks make us feel etc. At no time did I suggest wearing masks wasn't helpful in the overall prevention of Covid.

It would be helpful if you left your bullying attitude offline. People have varying degrees of knowledge on Covid. Some haven't the time to be online constantly or haven't the desire.

TBF to that poster it was an expression of consternation at other comments. Try not to take what you read here personally even if people seem to be having a go at you. Just skip past those posts and you'll stay sane. Most posters want to engage in discussion but may have a robust way of doing so. The purely antagonistic trolls are a very small minority.

KrustyUCC

Wonder why they're pushing a weekend lag if it doesn't exist?

polesheep

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

You could see it on that RTE doc - Inside Ireland's Covid Battle - the toll it was taking on doctors and nurses. And even when restrictions started to lift and people were back out and about, some being lose with the guidance, they were still in the trenches every day.

But the healthcare workers being tested seem to be nursing and care home workers. There is no such testing going on with hospital staff unless they show symptoms.

expectationlost

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Wonder why they're pushing a weekend lag if it doesn't exist?

the journos were the ones who brought it up, Glynn actually said the weekend lag relates more to deaths, there might be a people based weekend lag.

petes

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

I think you'll find there's a reply button. You can use this function to reply to another poster if you disagree. It's the basis of most fora.

Avid reader here, saw nothing bullying in any post, seriously, people will read in to things far too easily these days!

To someone asking about where did this 'lag' idea come from. Think it was to do with deaths and Tuesdays number would usually be higher due to reporting at weekends.

KrustyUCC

expectationlost wrote: »

the journos were the ones who brought it up, Glynn actually said the weekend lag relates more to deaths, there might be a people based weekend lag.

Ah OK thanks