Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

cnocbui

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I'm expecting at least 8 waves.

Surfs up, get waxing.

ShineOn7

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Looks like there was a significant increase in Dublin yesterday.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1280553588125810696?s=21

8 cases is hardly a "sharp uptick" is it?

caveat emptor

Ae Fond Kiss wrote: »

New to boards.ie. Just reading through some of this thread. So many posts!

Have one question. We've done well and are continuing to do so. I know it's a bit of a 'what are the lotto numbers' question but what do posters think is the likelihood of a second wave later in the year?

Welcome!

Good question. Nodbody knows. Here's some highly scientific graphs though.

Plumbthedepths

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Was with you up to 7, but quite frankly you'll have to persuade me further or provide a source for 8.

Bill gates is working on wave 8 with the reverse vampires.

Funsterdelux

Stheno wrote: »

I've installed the app but cannot enable the contact tracing piece. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

Am checking for updates at the minute

Did you press the any key?

ShineOn7

caveat emptor wrote: »

Welcome!

Good question. Nodbody knows. Here's some highly scientific graphs though.

Not sure which door I'd like to choose

The middle one maybe? Get the brunt of it out of the way

Funsterdelux

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Bill gates is working on wave 8 with the reverse vampires.

Dont so silly, we all know reverse vampires are extinct

Pistachio19

Stheno wrote: »

I've installed the app but cannot enable the contact tracing piece. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

Am checking for updates at the minute

Your phone might be too old, like my prehistoric iphone5. It won't work with older phones.

billyhead

There must be a good chance this virus will eventually burn itselve out like the Spanish Flu after the 2nd wave hit? We mightn't even get a 2nd wave.

caveat emptor

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Not sure which door I'd like to choose

The middle one maybe? Get the brunt of it out of the way

That’s your classic Boris bosh,
Take it on the chin like a real man 1918 style.

Luckily there are no world wars. If we wanted to opt for that approach we’d have to incentivise the spread by offering free drink in overcrowded pubs for those mad enough to get the ball rolling. Maybe 10 euro flights to area worst affected.

Hopefully it’s door number 3. We’ll have to strap ourselves in and find out.

DevilsHaircut

AdamD wrote: »

Surely the point would also be to go get tested

No.

The incubation period after being infected and before showing symptoms is assumed to be a maximum of 14 days (hence, that forms the basis of our existing rules about self-isolation, sans the app).

If you are 'pinged' as a close contact and test negative today, you would still, rightly, have to self-isolate (i.e. not go to work, shops unless absolutely necessary).

ShineOn7

caveat emptor wrote: »

That’s your classic Boris bosh,
Take it on the chin like a real man 1918 style.

Well I'd rather not be compared to that absolute gobshíte ;-)

So maybe door number 3?

The wave after number 2 still looks quite significant, even after a rough looking curve

stephenjmcd

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

No.

The incubation period after being infected and before showing symptoms is assumed to be a maximum of 14 days (hence, that forms the basis of our existing rules about self-isolation, sans the app).

If you are 'pinged' as a close contact and test negative today, you would still, rightly, have to self-isolate (i.e. not go to work, shops unless absolutely necessary).

You get tested on day 0, the day your identified as a close contact & day 7

ACitizenErased

ACitizenErased wrote: »

It doesn't use data, only bluetooth

To share your contact info with the servers if you test positive, or to get notification that you are a contact you would need mobile data or WiFi

Stheno

Pistachio19 wrote: »

Your phone might be too old, like my prehistoric iphone5. It won't work with older phones.

It needed an update It's a fairly new phone, less than two years old, the update fixed it

ShineOn7

So the App will tell me if I've been in contact with anyone that had it?

Couple of questions:

• How far back does that go? 30 days?
• How are people finding it affects their phone's battery? Having an App that constantly tracks your location must surely drain anything below an iPhone XS?I have Location Services switched to Off on most Apps for this reason

ShineOn7

ShineOn7 wrote: »

So the App will tell me if I've been in contact with anyone that had it?

Couple of questions:

• How far back does that go? 30 days?
• How are people finding it affects their phone's battery? Having an App that constantly tracks your location must surely drain anything below an iPhone XS?I have Location Services switched to Off on most Apps for this reason

It doesn’t track your location. Only phones you have been in the vicinity of that also have the app

GooglePlus

ShineOn7 wrote: »

So the App will tell me if I've been in contact with anyone that had it?

Couple of questions:

• How far back does that go? 30 days?
• How are people finding it affects their phone's battery? Having an App that constantly tracks your location must surely drain anything below an iPhone XS?I have Location Services switched to Off on most Apps for this reason

Not sure how far it goes back, but it's only storing digits so I'd imagine it can go as far back as you have it active. It would only need to go back 3 or so weeks anyway.

The app doesn't use location services, it uses Bluetooth to track who you are near for longer than 15 minutes.

ShineOn7

GooglePlus wrote: »

The app doesn't use location services, it uses Bluetooth to track who you are near for longer than 15 minutes.

Doesn't having Bluetooth constantly on drain battery faster too?


Easy to know I need a phone upgrade eh?

Stheno

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Doesn't having Bluetooth constantly on drain battery faster too?


Easy to know I need a phone upgrade eh?

You could just have bluetooth on when you leave your house?

fritzelly

GooglePlus wrote: »

Not sure how far it goes back, but it's only storing digits so I'd imagine it can go as far back as you have it active. It would only need to go back 3 or so weeks anyway.

The app doesn't use location services, it uses Bluetooth to track who you are near for longer than 15 minutes.

Everything older than 14 days is deleted

If it uses low power bluetooth, I doubt it would make much difference. There's a big difference between this type of app and playing music to wireless headphones.

Eod100

Stheno wrote: »

You could just have bluetooth on when you leave your house?

I was wondering about that. Presume you would still get the push notification to say you were in close contact with someone if bluetooth was off ya? As in you just need to have it on when out and likely to be in contact with people?

Think it works through keys and so would be via data not bluetooth and that bluetooth is only needed to see if devices were in contact

caveat emptor

He’s fairly confident he’ll be grand. Athletic history and all......

fritzelly

Eod100 wrote: »

I was wondering about that. Presume you would still get the push notification to say you were in close contact with someone if bluetooth was off ya? As in you just need to have it on when out and likely to be in contact with people?

Think it works through keys and so would be via data not bluetooth and that bluetooth is only needed to see if devices were in contact

BT is used to store the ID of other app users when you are out and about and in close contact for more than 15 minutes

For push notifications and for the app to update it's positive keys (so it knows if to alert you) you need internet

cnocbui

Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

Now hoping for a second positive outcome.

Non solum non ambulabit

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Not sure which door I'd like to choose

The middle one maybe? Get the brunt of it out of the way

3 surely? 2 means biggest wave yet to come

Van.Bosch

cnocbui wrote: »

Now hoping for a second positive outcome.

Rumours it’s an elaborate hoax, to back up his claim that it is not that serious. He’ll recover in 2 days and say how great he is, a bit like kim jong il’s first ever round of golf when he shot 4 hole in ones.

ShineOn7

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

3 surely? 2 means biggest wave yet to come

I don't like this TV quiz show

All the doors are zero craic

ACitizenErased

The app is heading towards 800k downloads by tomorrow, incredible uptake

Van.Bosch

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Rumours it’s an elaborate hoax, to back up his claim that it is not that serious. He’ll recover in 2 days and say how great he is, a bit like kim jong il’s first ever round of golf when he shot 4 hole in ones.

Rumours or conspiracy theories? Rumours have a starting point close to him and conspiracy theories are just looking at the situation and applying convoluted logic to match one's biases.

He's been exposing himself to the possibility of getting it for ages. The obvious takeaway is that he got it.

JP Liz V1

Is 24 the highest in a few days

eigrod

Only just saw that there were 17 cases denotified today also.

jammiedodgers

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is 24 the highest in a few days

If you look back at ACitizenErased's posts, its likely a backlog.

stephenjmcd

jammiedodgers wrote: »

If you look back at ACitizenErased's posts, its likely a backlog.

Yeah Dublin didn't report any cases for the last 2 days in the county figures I think it was, which has to be a mistake

ACitizenErased

jammiedodgers wrote: »

If you look back at ACitizenErased's posts, its likely a backlog.

Indeed. There was only 13 positive tests last 24 hours yet 24 reported.

Eod100

Was thinking app could get to 1m downloads by Friday but at this rate could be next day or two

stephenjmcd

HSE Operations report out.

As of 18:30, 9 covid paitents in ICU with 7 ventilated. Down 1 on yesterday.

Big drop in general hosptial beds today.
As of 8pm there were 12 covid patients in general beds, down from 18 yesterday.

0 postive tests reported from hospitals today

ACitizenErased

stephenjmcd wrote: »

HSE Operations report out.

As of 18:30, 9 covid paitents in ICU with 7 ventilated. Down 1 on yesterday.

Big drop in general hosptial beds today.
As of 8pm there were 12 covid patients in general beds, down from 18 yesterday.

That's fantastic.

Plumbthedepths

Eod100 wrote: »

Was thinking app could get to 1m downloads by Friday but at this rate could be next day or two

Impressive tbh, what's the % the HSE is hoping for?

stephenjmcd

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That's fantastic.

yup it is. 0 postive tests reported in hospitals today also

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1280568013587128321

what the hell!

stephenjmcd wrote: »

HSE Operations report out.

As of 18:30, 9 covid paitents in ICU with 7 ventilated. Down 1 on yesterday.

Big drop in general hosptial beds today.
As of 8pm there were 12 covid patients in general beds, down from 18 yesterday.

0 postive tests reported from hospitals today

We’re doing so well. It would be such a pity if things started to to worsen again. Tired of the scare mongering from RTÉ at this stage. On Primetime again tonight it’s all doom and gloom and the risks of us doing this and that. How much longer are they going to get the wooden spoon out to threaten us.

SCOOP 64

stephenjmcd wrote: »

yup it is. 0 postive tests reported in hospitals today also

Does that mean no new cases will be reported tomorrow then ?

Santy2015

what the hell! wrote: »

We’re doing so well. It would be such a pity if things started to to worsen again. Tired of the scare mongering from RTÉ at this stage. On Primetime again tonight it’s all doom and gloom and the risks of us doing this and that. How much longer are they going to get the wooden spoon out to threaten us.

Stopped watching Primetime as it’s always focused on the negative. Like with the hse operations report, they could announce that during the show to give out some positivity. We’re doing great, app has/will have 800k downloads by midnight, very few in hospital, testing and tracing is working. Tested nearly 50,000 in the last 7 days. Not far off 500,000 tests done.

What Username Guidelines

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Does that mean no new cases will be reported tomorrow then ?

No, that’s just cases that were confirmed in hospital. There may be community or care home cases tomorrow. Hopefully a small number again.

ACitizenErased

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Does that mean no new cases will be reported tomorrow then ?

Just no cases confirmed in hospital labs

Eod100

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1280568013587128321

Yeah have signs in work now to only use lifts if you have mobility issues. Pros and cons to that as then more people use stairs but meant to social distance and guess more chance of virus dissipating in greater space than lift say.

And lately have signs on toilets so only one person can use bathrooms at one time. Not sure that does much if it filters in air but still might help I guess.

stephenjmcd

what the hell! wrote: »

We’re doing so well. It would be such a pity if things started to to worsen again. Tired of the scare mongering from RTÉ at this stage. On Primetime again tonight it’s all doom and gloom and the risks of us doing this and that. How much longer are they going to get the wooden spoon out to threaten us.

Nothing new there so from RTE. We've heard the same stuff over and over again for weeks and months, dont open up shops early, don't do this dont do that. So far touch wood there's been no ill effect to any of the reopenings and we'll have a fair idea by the end of this week / start of next how phase 3 is going.

Personally I think the doom and gloom you describe is to keep the public compliant. Look at travel for example, now it's dont travel that means your kids might not be able to go to school at the end of August, when that statement cant exactly be backed up in countries that have both opened schools first and restarted travel within the EU

What Username Guidelines

stephenjmcd wrote: »

HSE Operations report out.

As of 18:30, 9 covid paitents in ICU with 7 ventilated. Down 1 on yesterday.

Big drop in general hosptial beds today.
As of 8pm there were 12 covid patients in general beds, down from 18 yesterday.

0 postive tests reported from hospitals today

Looks like Tallaght is now covid free as of 8pm?

stephenjmcd wrote: »

yup it is. 0 postive tests reported in hospitals today also

Just had a look, there’s one in Crumlin at 8am?