Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Plumbthedepths

Gael23 wrote: »

We must be coming near the point of relaxing social distancing rules?

20th July.

Gael23

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

20th July.

To 1m or do we have any idea?

Plumbthedepths

Gael23 wrote: »

To 1m or do we have any idea?

I metre until you get drunk.

timsey tiger

ACitizenErased wrote: »

ESTIMATES: How COVID-19 is spreading
Community Transmission 8400 (-20)
Close Contacts 16519 (+37)
Travel Abroad 612 (+25)

I'm probably misreading this, are we talking 42 extra cases, with 25 coming from foreign travel or their direct contacts?

BLIZZARD7

Gael23 wrote: »

We must be coming near the point of relaxing social distancing rules?

Why? I doubt we will see them reduced any time soon to be honest. People won't attempt to follow them if we move to 1m from 2m.

cnocbui

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I've literally said on this thread before I'm unemployed as a result of the pandemic. If you've a problem with me you can PM me, as I said.

Apologies, no offense intended, there has been a misunderstanding.

Plumbthedepths

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

Why? I doubt we will see them reduced any time soon to be honest. People won't attempt to follow them if we move to 1m from 2m.

Can't find anything more recent, maybe someone else can. It will drop to a metre or hotels/restaurants or unviable.

https://lovin.ie/news/social-distancing-measures-expected-to-be-relaxed-for-hospitality-sector

Lyle

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Apparently cases today are 1 Cork, 8 Dublin, 1 Kildare, 1 Galway according to the new Covid App

Source Cork Safety Alerts

There was also Louth +3, Meath +1, Monaghan +1, Tipperary +1 and Waterford +2

Jim_Hodge

Lyle wrote: »

There was also Louth +3, Meath +1, Monaghan +1, Tipperary +1 and Waterford +2

That's not today though.

fr336

Gael23 wrote: »

We must be coming near the point of relaxing social distancing rules?

Already done with many people.

Lyle

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

That's not today though.

So the Covid App has passed out the data released on the dashboard? That'd be great if it was up-to-the-minute and on-the-day reporting, rather than the 2 day lag we have on county information now.

Anyone have the breakdown for yesterday (7/7) so?

AllGunsBlazing

Excellent numbers again.

It looked pretty scary back in April but I think we're exactly where we hoped we'd be by mid Summer.

Deeper Blue

A minor nitpick but why not just announce that we have 11 cases today, x in Dublin, y in Kildare, z in Cork etc.? Surely they have this information when they know the number of new cases? Why the delay?

LiquidZeb

fr336 wrote: »

Yes yes the people trying to prevent transmission are the ones desperately hoping for people to get sick and maybe die...yes yes that's right...

Well why ask if someone's currently employed then? Whose life is that saving?

fr336

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Well why ask if someone's currently employed then? Whose life is that saving?

This thread has gone into parody now. The person clearly misunderstood and thought Citizen was delighted at someone being made redundant when what he meant was that the person who posts the death stats would soon be redundant from posting.

LiquidZeb

fr336 wrote: »

This thread has gone into parody now. The person clearly misunderstood and thought Citizen was delighted at someone being made redundant when what he meant was that the person who posts the death stats would soon be redundant from posting.

Yeah it's all a great misunderstanding isn't it? I do so hate when they happen.

JP Liz V1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

ESTIMATES: How COVID-19 is spreading
Community Transmission 8400 (-20)
Close Contacts 16519 (+37)
Travel Abroad 612 (+25)

travel cases increasing that is a worry, we need better restrictions in self isolating quarantine on outgoing incoming travel, airports stricter

An Ciarraioch

No active case update, but assuming recoveries are still 92%, that would give a figure of 302 (2,040-1,738).

fr336

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Yeah it's all a great misunderstanding isn't it? I do so hate when they happen.

Do the mods send you away or do you just pop up every so often?

Plumbthedepths

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

travel cases increasing that is a worry, we need better restrictions in self isolating quarantine on outgoing incoming travel, airports stricter

Why would you need quarantine on outgoing travel?

LiquidZeb

fr336 wrote: »

Do the mods send you away or do you just pop up every so often?

I post whenever I have the time. I don't act as if I'm feeding the poor by posting on an internet forum like some people do.

fr336

LiquidZeb wrote: »

I post whenever I have the time. I don't act as if I'm feeding the poor by posting on an internet forum like some people do.

If anyone ever calls you passive aggressive, tell them I want a word with them! Have a nice day!

michellie

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Know someone who had a community test but went downhill before results. He was admitted to hospital and tested positive. While in there he got his other positive results via text. So he’d have been double counted probably and removed at some stage later on.

Sorry I'm late but thank you, that makes sense now

igCorcaigh

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1280926346672250882?s=19

LiquidZeb

fr336 wrote: »

If anyone ever calls you passive aggressive, tell them I want a word with them! Have a nice day!

I'm not going to be dragged into a blatant attempt to cause an argument so the same to you.

Tokyo

Mod: @fr336 - quit it with the running commentary and actually post something of substance.

owlbethere

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

travel cases increasing that is a worry, we need better restrictions in self isolating quarantine on outgoing incoming travel, airports stricter

+1
We are an island. Our covid cases came about from travel and arrivals into the country from infected areas.

By continuing with no quarantine for countries with covid out of control - its going to be a recipe for disaster and we will probably see a spike by the end of the summer. People are becoming more relaxed and carefree about the virus and the guidelines we need to follow going forward. Definitely I see social distancing diminishing all the time. The COVID app might give people a false sense of security as well and lead people into taking more risks and meet up with more and more people when we have been urged to keep our close contacts and family contacts as low as possible. It might lead to people meeting up in large crowds and gatherings too. All of this is a recipe for disaster.

What we absolutely definitely need to establish is what sort of people are coming into Ireland? If its Irish citizens returning from abroad or if its tourists. I would be very wary of American tourists. They will need a place to stay, maybe a hotel and there would be staff working in hotels serving tourists and putting them at risk. Tour buses, tourist attractions, shops and restaurants where tourists go to - people there would all be at risk from infections.

KrustyUCC

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Apparently cases today are 1 Cork, 8 Dublin, 1 Kildare, 1 Galway according to the new Covid App

Source Cork Safety Alerts

We should be isolating Dublin, to be honest

owlbethere

igCorcaigh wrote: »

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1280926346672250882?s=19

Will employers have to ask staff members to take time out of work and self isolate or quarantine themselves away from work if staff engage in high risk activities? Like attending a wedding, concert, going to mass, travel abroad - otherwise employers are neglecting their duty to keep the team safe.

fr336

mike_ie wrote: »

Mod: @fr336 - quit it with the running commentary and actually post something of substance.

Where are other people's warnings?

JP Liz V1

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Why would you need quarantine on outgoing travel?

Yes sorry head not great today but travel needs to be stricter, it is a worry with travel increasing back up

fr336

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Well he probably didn't get the surge he was hoping for after yesterday's numbers so we get the pissy indignant digs now as we regularly do after low numbers.

Not enough substance in this post.

fr336

owlbethere wrote: »

Will employers have to ask staff members to take time out of work and self isolate or quarantine themselves away from work if staff engage in high risk activities? Like attending a wedding, concert, going to mass, travel abroad - otherwise employers are neglecting their duty to keep the team safe.

I saw a company in London advertising a job saying please don't apply if you're using public transport. The nerve of it! I wonder how many in the company are using pubs etc on a regular basis. I should have reported it to be honest.

Plumbthedepths

fr336 wrote: »

Not enough substance in this post.

May I ask when where you elevated to the ranks of the Mods?

petes

owlbethere wrote: »

Will employers have to ask staff members to take time out of work and self isolate or quarantine themselves away from work if staff engage in high risk activities? Like attending a wedding, concert, going to mass, travel abroad - otherwise employers are neglecting their duty to keep the team safe.

One of my team members went home to Poland last weekend for a break. On return he won't be able to come in to the office for two weeks. Obviously can't comment on other companies procedures as I don't know them but that's the stance we've taken.

fr336

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

May I ask when where you elevated to the ranks of the Mods?

More substance here.

An Ciarraioch

Most US states on their own would top the world infection rankings:

https://twitter.com/JohnFugelsang/status/1280918839828582400

Jim_Hodge

fr336 wrote: »

More substance here.

Keep it up. The thread will soon be useless.

:rolleyes:

fr336

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Keep it up. The thread will soon be useless.

:rolleyes:

It's been useless since May. Gone from balanced, intelligent discussion from all sides to a clique of "positivity" and if you don't agree with us there's the door. I'm not too fussed, it's only an online forum obviously, but it's just annoying I have to deal with the same types in real life.

Plumbthedepths

fr336 wrote: »

More substance here.

It seems you are being indulged at the moment, it may be short lived though. I'll say goodbye now in case I don't a chance later.

An Ciarraioch

fr336 wrote: »

It's been useless since May. Gone from balanced, intelligent discussion from all sides to a clique of "positivity" and if you don't agree with us there's the door. I'm not too fussed, it's only an online forum obviously, but it's just annoying I have to deal with the same types in real life.

The case levels here have become statistically negligible, even after going through all the phases - maybe there'll be a spike in a fortnight from pubs reopening, but we can't do any more in this country to prevent the disease as long as we control air travel.

Jim_Hodge

fr336 wrote: »

It's been useless since May. Gone from balanced, intelligent discussion from all sides to a clique of "positivity" and if you don't agree with us there's the door. I'm not too fussed, it's only an online forum obviously, but it's just annoying I have to deal with the same types in real life.

Maybe that's because it's how people feel. Thus valid for opinion and discussion. We can't just have points made that agree with you - neither here nor in real life.

fr336

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Maybe that's because it's how people feel. Thus valid for opinion and discussion. We can't just have points made that agree with you - neither here nor in real life.

Did you read my post? It's not me trying to hound people out who don't agree with me. Anyway Jim I don't remember you posting any crap so this doesn't apply to you.

fr336

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

It seems you are being indulged at the moment, it may be short lived though. I'll say goodbye now in case I don't a chance later.

Thanks, I reported this instead of getting into another conversation.

ShyMets

fr336 wrote: »

It's been useless since May. Gone from balanced, intelligent discussion from all sides to a clique of "positivity" and if you don't agree with us there's the door. I'm not too fussed, it's only an online forum obviously, but it's just annoying I have to deal with the same types in real life.

There is no clique of positivity. But for a prolonged period are numbers have been continually declining in Ireland. Something I think that is to be positive about.

Ficheall

ShyMets wrote: »

There is no clique of positivity.

There absolutely is, and it is particularly nasty.



The numbers have been declining in this country, and it's wonderful, but there are still very legitimate causes for concern, but any time these are raised, certain posters will come out with the "Oh, I bet you want more people to die" or "I bet the bad news turns you on" jibes. It's pretty disgusting that it's allowed to continue unfettered.

fr336

Ficheall wrote: »

There absolutely is, and it is particularly nasty.



The numbers have been declining in this country, and it's wonderful, but there are still very legitimate causes for concern, but any time these are raised, certain posters will come out with the "Oh, I bet you want more people to die" or "I bet the bad news turns you on" jibes. It's pretty disgusting that it's allowed to continue unfettered.

Exactly. You can be positive without attacking those who may be positive too but also want to post facts. Why the jibes guys? There's no need. They won't answer this question of course because there is no excuse for it. They must be buddies with the mods.

timsey tiger

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

The case levels here have become statistically negligible, even after going through all the phases - maybe there'll be a spike in a fortnight from pubs reopening, but we can't do any more in this country to prevent the disease as long as we control air travel.

I think that you've a typo in your last sentence there. However, the case load is not negligible or statistically negligible.

Consider Isreal, they did a lot better job than we did initially in suppressing the virus, they relaxed their guard and then boom 1000 cases a day.

We have a whole range of options on additional measures we could take, to manage the spread of this virus, to suggest we don't is just ridiculous, even without closing the airports.

lukas8888

fr336 wrote: »

It's been useless since May. Gone from balanced, intelligent discussion from all sides to a clique of "positivity" and if you don't agree with us there's the door. I'm not too fussed, it's only an online forum obviously, but it's just annoying I have to deal with the same types in real life.

So what your saying is your annoyed dealing with people who disagree with your point of view.

fr336

fr336 wrote: »

I saw a company in London advertising a job saying please don't apply if you're using public transport. The nerve of it! I wonder how many in the company are using pubs etc on a regular basis. I should have reported it to be honest.

People who routinely get public transport to work are not eligible for the first wave of the return to office in my company. So if this company in London is not able to provide WFH arrangements, it’s probably much the same thing

(Edit, the whole return to work for us is voluntary, but only those who walk or cycle can come in. No one drives)