Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

ACitizenErased

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought with GAA clubs party fiasco Cork would have cases

I did too! Waterford have 5

is_that_so

Care home staff testing is still ongoing as well.

wadacrack

stephenjmcd wrote: »

As was expected, its continually been flagged that cases would rise as we reopened. Time to get used to seeing cases at this level.

Only now will we be seeing the impact of the later stages of phase 2 and anything from phase 3.

But house parties seem to be the trend now

Not necessarily expected. Its a rather quick increase in one week. Its likely to rise further that's the issue and with schools still 2 months away its obviously a concern

Gael23

Reopening was always going to lead to a rise. It’s just a question of keeping a lid on it at the current level.
I am a bit worried about what happens when pubs open next week though

JP Liz V1

Polar101 wrote: »

Listened to the Pat Kenny report where they interviewed people arriving from Florida and Texas. Most pretended to be self-isolating, but of course out of 16 passengers on the flight, there was one Texan who said the thing is overblown. Welcome to Ireland, hope you enjoy touring the country!

So US is closed to Ireland holidayers but Ireland welcoming US ones whose positive cases and deaths are rising high again, seriously WTF

Icantthinkof1

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought with GAA clubs party fiasco Cork would have cases

They’ll be in tomorrow or Sunday’s numbers

ACitizenErased

Well over a third of cases still coming from Leinster, half yesterday from Dublin and Kildare alone

ACitizenErased

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

They’ll be in tomorrow or Sunday’s numbers

if they test positive

JP Liz V1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

if they test positive

Hopefully negatives

Icantthinkof1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

if they test positive

Hopefully they won’t test positive

ACitizenErased

Our positivity rate is still incredibly small. ~20 cases from almost 10,000 tests.

owlbethere

wadacrack wrote: »

Not a great week, definite signs of an increase in transmission

Wait for the spin doctors to come out and paint the picture as a positive.

is_that_so

wadacrack wrote: »

Not necessarily expected. Its a rather quick increase in one week. Its likely to rise further that's the issue and with schools still 2 months away its obviously a concern

Not if this is the highest level it gets to and we are seeing isolated clusters. Pubs may be a challenge but I think schools will be fine.

Ae Fond Kiss

Spain. Wednesday 383 new cases. Thursday 543, today Friday 852.

There are worrying signs in countries we have people traveling to.

is_that_so

owlbethere wrote: »

Wait for the spin doctors to come out and paint the picture as a positive.

Is positive a dirty word to you? Positivity rate is greeeeeeeeeeeatttttttt!

Always_Running

The seven day average is at 17 cases a day now compared to 9 a day at the end of June. Phase 3 has brought an increase but how much when you consider testing has ramped up in recent weeks.

ACitizenErased

If you look at the county data it looks like one large cluster in Dublin and two smaller ones in Waterford and Kildare and the rest seem okay

fm

Ae Fond Kiss wrote: »

Spain. Wednesday 383 new cases. Thursday 543, today Friday 852.

There are worrying signs in countries we have people traveling to.

They include antibodies testing, only 333 cases reported yoday

ACitizenErased

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1281636194506375168?s=20

LiquidZeb

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Our positivity rate is still incredibly small. ~20 cases from almost 10,000 tests.

Well good luck trying to get that through to people. We've had fantastic numbers for weeks and a tiny increase 2 days in a row and it's like the fall of Rome. Welcome to the reality of life for the next few months. Numbers will go up and down day after day. We could have 10 cases a day and then 30. We have to build life around this as much as possible.

Jay Dee

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Perfectly suited for here. Yup it lags about 2 days behind but yeah there does be a number given on cases per county. Comes out of HPSC data.

Citizen erased usually puts it up most evenings, he's on the ball when it comes to the stats

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JP Liz V1

Ae Fond Kiss wrote: »

Spain. Wednesday 383 new cases. Thursday 543, today Friday 852.

There are worrying signs in countries we have people traveling to.

It is surging back up everywhere, no where safe

LiquidZeb

stephenjmcd wrote: »

21 postive tests out of 9300, roughly 0.2% if I'm correct there

Please post this everywhere in block capitals. This is amazing there are countries that would kill for these numbers.

igCorcaigh

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1281636194506375168?s=20

Pure waffle and no action. There needs to be concrete steps in containing imported cases.

Ae Fond Kiss

fm wrote: »

They include antibodies testing, only 333 cases reported yoday

Up from 156 yesterday.

JP Liz V1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Analysis of cases as of midnight Wednesday 8th July - 25,564 cases (+21)

Healthcare Workers +3
Clusters +12
Cases associated with clusters +31

Age Range Affected
0-4 +1
5-14 +2
15-24 +14
25-34 +3
35-44 +1
45-54 No Change
55-64 No Change
65-74 No Change
75-84 No Change
85+ No Change

Cases by County
Donegal +1
Dublin +9
Galway -1
Kildare +3
Limerick +1
Mayo +1
Sligo +1
Waterford +5
Wicklow +1

Jay Dee wrote: »

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stephenjmcd

wadacrack wrote: »

Not necessarily expected. Its a rather quick increase in one week. Its likely to rise further that's the issue and with schools still 2 months away its obviously a concern

If you've watched any of the briefings or listened to any of the statements yes it was expected there would be an increase with more movement.

Let's wait and see, these cases appear to be clusters which have been traced and brought under control. We're going to see clusters

Ae Fond Kiss

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It is surging back up everywhere, no where safe

Ah no. Look at Worldmeter for detail. You often have to drill in to the figures. Spain is counting antibody testing but still up from 156 to 333 today.

Germany and the Nordic countries, bar Sweden are well under control. The big surges are Latin America, Brazil, USA. Australia is having a surge. Good and bad.

ACitizenErased

I have complete trust in our track and trace system to contain these clusters tbh. Was contained in Sligo and also in the meat plants. We are ready for this.

LiquidZeb

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It is surging back up everywhere, no where safe

Im not sure if you're taking the piss with the tone of your posts today but if you're serious you need to relax.

stephenjmcd

Always_Running wrote: »

The seven day average is at 17 cases a day now compared to 9 a day at the end of June. Phase 3 has brought an increase but how much when you consider testing has ramped up in recent weeks.

We won't be seeing the effects of phase 3 fully yet. This weekend and the start of next week will show it completely with the 14 day incubation.
But we're doing more tests now than we were 3 weeks ago when we were doing about 2k and finding 10 or so cases, over 9k tests processed daily at the moment and cases in the 20s.

Positivity rate not showing any increase

Ae Fond Kiss

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Please post this everywhere in block capitals. This is amazing there are countries that would kill for these numbers.

It's great but you can't get carried away. It can take off very quickly.

I wouldn't be one to get too excited. There's just too many cases globally. It only takes a few mishaps and you're chasing your tail again.

is_that_so

And hospitals are virtually empty of COVID cases, so we are in a much better place.

fm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It is surging back up everywhere, no where safe

Wednesday was 257,Thursday was 241 and today 333,
Cases are increasing yes, surging is a bit dramatic.

ACitizenErased

is_that_so wrote: »

And hospitals are virtually empty of COVID cases, so we are in a much better place.

you could argue this is the most important thing

stephenjmcd

ACitizenErased wrote: »

If you look at the county data it looks like one large cluster in Dublin and two smaller ones in Waterford and Kildare and the rest seem okay

Cases higher than last few weeks but the fact that clusters are being traced and got on top of is a positive. System is working and will be key going forward as clusters appear, the 16 in sligo and the 9 mentioned yesterday being an example.

Would assume the cluster of 9 relates to dublin

cnocbui

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Who's talking years?

Have a little faith in science. They will figure it out vaccine/treatment.

I'm all for science, but faith is for the gullible.

Helen Clarke, former PM of New Zealand:

While the inquiry could take more than a year, Ms Clark said its findings would not only help counter the next coronavirus but also deal with COVID-19 because the current pandemic could last for years.

"I'm told from Geneva that the most optimistic scenario for a widely available vaccine would be at least two and a half years," she said in an interview on Friday.

"And even then we don’t know how efficacious it would be – it may not stop us getting it, it may simply mitigate the impact of getting it.

"In the end, a disease like this, like a plague of ancient times, will keep going as long as hosts present themselves for it, so we have to cut the transmission cycle."

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/virus-inquiry-chief-helen-clark-warns-of-long-wait-for-vaccine-20200710-p55b0e.html

LiquidZeb

Ae Fond Kiss wrote: »

It's great but you can't get carried away. It can take off very quickly.

I wouldn't be one to get too excited. There's just too many cases globally. It only takes a few mishaps and you're chasing your tail again.

Oh I agree fully I'm not suggesting we get complacent but people are acting as if things will go from 0-60 back to March -April lockdown, ridiculous stuff. We have measures and infrastructure in place now along with more knowledge than before. We'll only go into nationwide lockdown if **** REALLY hits the fan.

Gael23

is_that_so wrote: »

And hospitals are virtually empty of COVID cases, so we are in a much better place.

This is vitally important and has not changed

Ae Fond Kiss

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I have complete trust in our track and trace system to contain these clusters tbh. Was contained in Sligo and also in the meat plants. We are ready for this.

The app is a bit finicky though. Impressive download figures but it's a bit like gym numbers in January. Will many log on in a fortnight. It won't prevent the spread of the disease like the tried and trusted social distancing, hand washing and the big priority, sorting out travel and quarantine.

It's a big statement to say we're ready for this. We are mostly but it's the careless few who can do a lot of damage. Will foreign travel be our Cheltenham this time round.

Utopia Parkway

I don't think there is any way to open up society and the economy and not get more cases. It's unrealistic to expect cases to continue falling as people move around more.

The key is keeping the numbers low and not growing exponentially which is where tracking and tracing has to keep on top of it.

LiquidZeb

cnocbui wrote: »

I'm all for science, but faith is for the gullible.

Hellen Clarke, former PM of New Zealand:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/virus-inquiry-chief-helen-clark-warns-of-long-wait-for-vaccine-20200710-p55b0e.html

But Dr fauci and several others have said we can expect one by late this year-early next year. Some of the language she uses 'plague of the ancient times ' is utterly stupid as well.

ACitizenErased

Ae Fond Kiss wrote: »

The app is a bit finicky though. Impressive download figures but it's a bit like gym numbers in January. Will many log on in a fortnight. It won't prevent the spread of the disease like the tried and trusted social distancing, hand washing and the big priority, sorting out travel and quarantine.

It's a big statement to say we're ready for this. We are mostly but it's the careless few who can do a lot of damage. Will foreign travel be our Cheltenham this time round.

The app is virtually useless for a week or two until people start interacting. I'm on about our public health tracking teams who have done a fantastic job all along.

Eod100

Anyone know the latest active cases number?

JP Liz V1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I have complete trust in our track and trace system to contain these clusters tbh. Was contained in Sligo and also in the meat plants. We are ready for this.

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Im not sure if you're taking the piss with the tone of your posts today but if you're serious you need to relax.

I hope your right, yes break time relax for me

stephenjmcd

Transport unions on RTE saying they're members will not enforce masks

cnocbui

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It is surging back up everywhere, no where safe

Of course it is. The idea of eliminating the virus is naive and why I said some time ago that we would all become Sweden because the virus can outlast our ability to suffer the economic and financial consequences of lockdowns and travel isolationism.

Utopia Parkway

Eod100 wrote: »

Anyone know the latest active cases number?

481 apparently.

Jay Dee

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Perfectly suited for here. Yup it lags about 2 days behind but yeah there does be a number given on cases per county. Comes out of HPSC data.

Citizen erased usually puts it up most evenings, he's on the ball when it comes to the stats.


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Ae Fond Kiss

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The app is virtually useless for a week or two until people start interacting. I'm on about our public health tracking teams who have done a fantastic job all along.

They are. But I was chatting to 2 people tracing and there's still reluctance with some people with regards to disclosing contacts. This would be rural to small towns in the south east. Hopefully it's not as bad in bigger urban areas as it's silly and dangerous.