Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

moon2

enno99 wrote: »

Not interested in BS about whether it was solely Obama or NATO or declared or undeclared

So you think knowing whether or not war was declared is "BS". Isn't your point entirely about who has or has not declared war?

Cody montana

enno99 wrote: »

Peace deal between Israel and UAE / Kosovo and Serbia |No Wars first president in 39 yrs and pulling out troops
Guess you guys preferred it the way it was killing women and children for profit

enno99 wrote: »

Not interested in BS about whether it was solely Obama or NATO or declared or undeclared

Yeah, who needs pesky facts and stuff.

So now we flip to the middle east and what happened under the Trump administration.
Trump dropped bombs on Syria and Iraq.
Again, I'm using your logic.
Thus, Trump went to war.

enno99

Cody montana wrote: »

Yeah, who needs pesky facts and stuff.

So now we flip to the middle east and what happened under the Trump administration.
Trump dropped bombs on Syria and Iraq.
Again, I'm using your logic.
Thus, Trump went to war.

No war was ongoing he didnt start it

enno99

moon2 wrote: »

So you think knowing whether or not war was declared is "BS". Isn't your point entirely about who has or has not declared war?

Former Defense Secretary Gates: 'At least' Trump 'hasn't started any new wars'

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/502659-former-defense-secretary-gates-at-least-trump-hasnt-started-any-new-wars

StringerBell

enno99 wrote: »

No war was ongoing he didnt start it

I often thought, if one of these accounts could restrain initially and show some kind of ability of discuss in good faith before revealing the true intentions of the account how would that go. As it is the accounts are kind of a good mirror to the trump, don't have the mental tools to appear competent and reveal the true nature too easily.

When the improved version of trump is rolled out for 2024/2028 will the accounts also get an upgrade?

Water John

That Trump didn't start serious warfare with NK seems to have been a matter of luck. Gen Mattis was going to the church to pray it wouldn't happen and slept in his clothes to be ready.

aloyisious

enno99 wrote: »

Now Trump in cahoots with China killing Americans LOL

TDS is off the charts

OK, if it's your position now that Trump lied to Bob Woodward on tape when he told him he discussed the Covid-19 outbreak in China with President Liu of China and Liu told him about how dangerous Covid was, then I see there's not much point in engaging with some-one who replies with LOL and TDS comments.

I'll close discourse with you with the fact that Trump is now accusing Woodward of not telling the U.S authorities about the danger Covid-19 put the U.S in, while Trump, the person described as The National Authority [being Woodward's informant] was already aware of the danger. Bob Woodward has caught another U.S president out again.

Capt'n Midnight

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Also I may have missed it yesterday but apparently the United States has a brand new nuclear weapon of some kind.

No. Just more pork barrelling and would happen no matter who was president.

This time it's Northrop Grumman's turn because Boeing already have lots of other defence contracts. Maybe it'll be Lockheed Martin's turn after.

$13.3 and delivery in 2029. Though both numbers will stretch a tad.
Will still use the same warheads, though they get refurbished and updated from time to time.

aloyisious

The Daily Mail is reporting that Trump said today that Bob Woodward did not have an obligation to disclose the contents of their conversations during eighteen interviews Woodward conducted with him because they were 'good and proper answers.'. I see that paper as an establishment paper so it's not unusual for it to be the source of insider information lines, however unusual the line.

TomOnBoard

On a separate but related note in that it speaks to the bat**** crazy stuff the White House is trying to do, the whistleblower from Homeland Security was told to STOP informing relevant parties, including the FBI about ongoing Russian efforts to influence the US elections in favour of Trump, SIMPLY BECAUSE it made Trump look bad!!!

Not because the assessments were wrong! Not because they were far-fetched! No! Because they made Trump look bad!!!

Jesus wept!!!

Water John

Trump also told Woodward about a new secret weapon that the Russians and Chinese knew nothing about!!!
Well they didn't know until yesterday. You couldn't write it, nobody would believe you.

enno99

aloyisious wrote: »

OK, if it's your position now that Trump lied to Bob Woodward on tape when he told him he discussed the Covid-19 outbreak in China with President Liu of China and Liu told him about how dangerous Covid was, then I see there's not much point in engaging with some-one who replies with LOL and TDS comments.

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What did Fauchi know

Dr Stephen Hatfill a Bioweapons expert /USARMRIID aslo worked on Ebola
said on Jan 29th that it was most likely spread by droplets and was going to be hard to contain
It shouldnt be hard for others in the field to come to the same conclusion
So maybe the keep calm and dont panic was the plan
it was an unknown
The CCP were not going to help Trump he was crippling them with sanctions
they want him gone and Biden in the White House

They were tearing eachothers hair out for a pack of toilet rolls what do you think the result would be if the government said the virus was going to kill millions
I know you all like to blame Trump for everything but maybe this was the right call
If you let you dislike for Trump blind you then im afraid your not going to learn much

PropJoe10

enno99 wrote: »

What did Fauchi know

Dr Stephen Hatfill a Bioweapons expert /USARMRIID aslo worked on Ebola
said on Jan 29th that it was most likely spread by droplets and was going to be hard to contain
It shouldnt be hard for others in the field to come to the same conclusion
So maybe the keep calm and dont panic was the plan
it was an unknown
The CCP were not going to help Trump he was crippling them with sanctions
they want him gone and Biden in the White House

They were tearing eachothers hair out for a pack of toilet rolls what do you think the result would be if the government said the virus was going to kill millions
I know you all like to blame Trump for everything but maybe this was the right call
If you let you dislike for Trump blind you then im afraid your not going to learn much

Drivel. Trump coming out and saying that the virus was "under control" and "would shortly be down to zero" caused people to lapse into a feeling of security and go around normally without taking any precautions.

Unfortunately, what the President of the US says still matters. Trump should've been straight out, making clear how serious the threat was and encouraging vigilance from the start, rather than sticking his head in the sand and hoping it would "just go away". You can blame Fauci, the CDC or whoever you like but at the end of the day, the buck stops with the leader.

When you're President, you're responsible. It's that simple.

enno99

TomOnBoard wrote: »

On a separate but related note in that it speaks to the bat**** crazy stuff the White House is trying to do, the whistleblower from Homeland Security was told to STOP informing relevant parties, including the FBI about ongoing Russian efforts to influence the US elections in favour of Trump, SIMPLY BECAUSE it made Trump look bad!!!

Not because the assessments were wrong! Not because they were far-fetched! No! Because they made Trump look bad!!!

Jesus wept!!!

Adam Schiff's Latest Russia 'Whistleblower' Investigated By House Intel, Inspector General, & Was Fired From DHS For Surveilling Press
Except, Schiff did investigate - his whistleblower - for allegedly 'providing incomplete and potentially misleading information to Committee staff,' according to the New York Times.

Not only that, Murphy was fired from his job as the head of DHS's intelligence branch and reassigned after he compiled reports about protesters and journalists reporting on the Trump administration's response to the riots in Portland, Oregon in July.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/adam-schiffs-latest-russia-whistleblower-investigated-house-inspector-general-and-was

He was a liar earlier now hes truthful

enno99

PropJoe10 wrote: »

Drivel. Trump coming out and saying that the virus was "under control" and "would shortly be down to zero" caused people to lapse into a feeling of security and go around normally without taking any precautions.

Unfortunately, what the President of the US says still matters. Trump should've been straight out, making clear how serious the threat was and encouraging vigilance from the start, rather than sticking his head in the sand and hoping it would "just go away". You can blame Fauci, the CDC or whoever you like but at the end of the day, the buck stops with the leader.

When you're President, you're responsible. It's that simple.

Only if you cant think for yourself

Do you believe what he says ?

aloyisious

The Trump Admins Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin & his Treasury Dept agents have sanctioned 3 Russians involved with the I.R.S Russian Troll Farm currently spreading disinformation about the U.S election campaign trying to disrupt it. According to the Dept, another person it has sanctioned is a Ukrainian parliament member [Andrii Derkach] linked to earlier attempts in Ukraine to disrupt the election process by releasing edited tapes & other items to discredit U.S officials between May & July 2020. Unfortunately for Trump's personal lawyer [Rudy Giuliani] it seems he met with Derkach in Kyiv while working for Trump there last year. Historical facts can be bad.

Water John

And there are over 190,000 dead, because Trump lied to the people.

enno99

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Another part of the new Bob Woodward book has come out where according to nbc news Donald trump told Bob Woodward that he “doesn’t have responsibility to understand Black Americans’ anger, pain.”

Sorry about the size

Looks a lot different when you see the question

Overheal

So he's saying he feels in no way whatsoever an empathy or a responsibility to have empathy for Black Americans.

Detritus70

enno99 wrote: »

Sorry about the size

Looks a lot different when you see the question

Ah, we have arrived at "and if he said it, he didn't mean it".

enno99

Overheal wrote: »

So he's saying he feels in no way whatsoever an empathy or a responsibility to have empathy for Black Americans.

No he is referring to white privilege. As the cool aid thats what I took from it

You know get on your knees and apologise BS

hetuzozaho

enno99 wrote: »

You know get on your knees and apologise BS

Where does he say that?

5GMadeMeDoIt

enno99 wrote: »

Sorry about the size

Looks a lot different when you see the question

He's saying that he doesn't feel any empathy towards a large portion of American citizens. He's also saying that anyone who does, or tries to, is crazy (the Kool Aid reference).

That's much worse than the NBC quote.

Why do you seemingly go out of your way to post material that detracts from any argument you are trying to make?

Wanderer78

5GMadeMeDoIt wrote:

He's saying that he doesn't feel any empathy towards a large portion of American citizens. He's also saying that anyone who does, or tries to, is crazy (the Look Aid re reference).

Sure he's a narcissist, so empathy is in short supply there

Hermy

enno99 wrote: »

Former Defense Secretary Gates: 'At least' Trump 'hasn't started any new wars'

He may not have started any wars but he's caused some amount of conflict.

Wanderer78

Hermy wrote:

He may not have started any wars but he's caused some amount of conflict.

He may have just started a war, in his own country!

duploelabs

enno99 wrote: »

No he is referring to white privilege. As the cool aid thats what I took from it

You know get on your knees and apologise BS

So he's saying white privilege is just a fabrication?

StringerBell

He says clearly that systemic, and institutional racism exists.

Woodward asked Trump whether he felt America “has systemic racism.” At first, he was given a typically throwaway response — “probably less here than most places or less here than many places.” But when Trump was pushed, he admitted that yes, America does have systemic racism and yes, it does impact people’s lives. “I think it is [in America]. It’s unfortunate, but I think it is.”

Flies in the face of his denials that it exists, his supporters are likely to be masochistic in nature I reckon.

Chips Lovell

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