Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

sydthebeat

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Trump supporters are apparently stock piling weapons and in border states such as Texax people are buying military grade firearms from cartels

What are texax people? Are they another new white supremist militia group of orange arse lockers?

ExMachina1000

sydthebeat wrote: »

What are texax people? Are they another new white supremist militia group of orange arse lockers?

No just a typo.

Timberrrrrrrr

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I have family in the United states. Two of my relations have sons in the military.
Before the coronavirus started my dad was over in the states in holiday.
The topic of Trump inevitably came up and my relations(Trump supporters) said if he loses the election he feels that Trump will have the support of the military to take over control of the government permanently.

They said they would support this type of coup and think its possible that certain sections have already started training for it.

Trump supporters are apparently stock piling weapons and in border states such as Texax people are buying military grade firearms from cartels

You give an American soldier the choice President or constitution and I guarantee they choose constitution every time.

banie01

Tell me how wrote: »

Hell, in the not too distant future, the NRA (and the GOP) will be using this as evidence that the 2A must not be interfered with.

Funnily enough, that BS won't float.
If the 2A is to defend against a tyrannical Government?
Surely every right wing 2A'r and flag kissing proponent of freedom needs to be in Portland defending those protestors?

There has been no pushback by 2A'rs as those toy soldiers are afraid to raise their heads above the parapet on current issues and particular current federal efforts at "crowd control" as it would expose them as complete hypocrites.

If the US Constitution matters, it must be applicable to all equally.
That the 2A'rs are largely invisible in what is the greatest powergrab and concurrent federal intervention in states rights since the civil war is frankly proof that many in that camp only pay lip service to the amendment and it's spirit.

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I have family in the United states. Two of my relations have sons in the military.
Before the coronavirus started my dad was over in the states in holiday.
The topic of Trump inevitably came up and my relations(Trump supporters) said if he loses the election he feels that Trump will have the support of the military to take over control of the government permanently.

They said they would support this type of coup and think its possible that certain sections have already started training for it.

Trump supporters are apparently stock piling weapons and in border states such as Texax people are buying military grade firearms from cartels

The weirdest part is based on your postings, I'm assuming you'd support that... It's still complete nonsense and will not occur.

ExMachina1000

Headshot wrote: »

tbf I think they already are tbh. I think they are tied into Trump now like a symbiotic bond and they refuse to see the truth or their world would crumble

They could take to the streets with weapons and masks. Its definitely possible

Roanmore

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I have family in the United states. Two of my relations have sons in the military.
Before the coronavirus started my dad was over in the states in holiday.
The topic of Trump inevitably came up and my relations(Trump supporters) said if he loses the election he feels that Trump will have the support of the military to take over control of the government permanently.

They said they would support this type of coup and think its possible that certain sections have already started training for it.

Trump supporters are apparently stock piling weapons and in border states such as Texax people are buying military grade firearms from cartels

This is the funniest thing I have read on Boards in a long time, is this a serious post?

Roanmore

Roanmore wrote: »

This is the funniest thing I have read on Boards in a long time, is this a serious post?

When Trump marched out to the Church a few weeks ago the Head of the Military apologised afterwards and said he should not have taken part in it.
You think he's going to support Trump in a coup?

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

They could take to the streets with weapons and masks. Its definitely possible

I'd say you'd have more luck pushing this rubbish in the conspiracy theories forum. There is not gonna be a military coup to keep Trump in power. Some niche militias if they try to pull anything will have zero success.

ExMachina1000

Roanmore wrote: »

When Trump marched out to the Church a few weeks ago the Head of the Military apologised afterwards and said he should not have taken part in it.
You think he's going to support Trump in a coup?

I don't think the military would. I didn't say I thought they would either. I shared a story about other people in a USA.

jamule

Trump does not have the balls nor the ability to pull something like that off. As soon as it starts to look like a lost cause he will be out of the game, and it will be fun.

Itssoeasy

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I don't think the military would. I didn't say I thought they would either. I shared a story about other people in a USA.

You said trump supporters think trump has the support of the military to take over the government permanently if he loses. So if you didn't believe this why did you post the story ?

Thargor

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I have family in the United states. Two of my relations have sons in the military.
Before the coronavirus started my dad was over in the states in holiday.
The topic of Trump inevitably came up and my relations(Trump supporters) said if he loses the election he feels that Trump will have the support of the military to take over control of the government permanently.

They said they would support this type of coup and think its possible that certain sections have already started training for it.

Trump supporters are apparently stock piling weapons and in border states such as Texax people are buying military grade firearms from cartels

Lol, he'll lose and everyone who supported him will slink off and be denying it a couple of years later.

ExMachina1000

Itssoeasy wrote: »

You said trump supporters think trump has the support of the military to take over the government permanently if he loses. So if you didn't believe this why did you post the story ?

What kind of question is that?

Are you asking if I agree with the Americans in question?

Roanmore

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I don't think the military would. I didn't say I thought they would either. I shared a story about other people in a USA.

Yes you did, you literally said

The topic of Trump inevitably came up and my relations(Trump supporters) said if he loses the election he feels that Trump will have the support of the military to take over control of the government permanently.

TomOnBoard

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I've not heard all of it but I've heard clips of trumps interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News and I'm sorry but the guy isn't right. Something is wrong.

I dont know if theyll show the outtakes, but Trump was dreadful throughout most of it... Wallace played him like yer man in Deliverance playing the banjo...

ExMachina1000

Roanmore wrote: »

Yes you did, you literally said

The topic of Trump inevitably came up and my relations(Trump supporters) said if he loses the election he feels that Trump will have the support of the military to take over control of the government permanently.

Where is the part where I said I thought the military would support a Trump takeover?

Itssoeasy

TomOnBoard wrote: »

I dont know if theyll show the outtakes, but Trump was dreadful throughout most of it... Wallace played him like yer man in Deliverance playing the banjo...

I know Chris Wallace is on Fox News now but people forget he's been around for a while so trump is no problem for someone of his experience and his late father was a respected journalist also. Did chris Wallace ask Alexander haig the question after the Reagan assassination attempt which lead to the "I'm in control here at the White House" moment or was that someone else ? I've seen the news coverage of that and I've it in my head he asked the question.

ancapailldorcha

salmocab wrote: »

Nonsense

sydthebeat wrote: »

What are texax people? Are they another new white supremist militia group of orange arse lockers?

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

They could take to the streets with weapons and masks. Its definitely possible

Enough of this silly nonsense please. It's well below the standard expected in this forum.

If anything Trump has less support in the military than Republicans generally would have.

banie01

TomOnBoard wrote: »

I dont know if theyll show the outtakes, but Trump was dreadful throughout most of it... Wallace played him like yer man in Deliverance playing the banjo...

Trump really went above and beyond in showing himself as an incompetent buffoon with no grasp on the facts and figures of the shítstorm he is presiding over.

Wallace's point on the test numbers in particular, that a 34% increase in tests should not equate to to a 194% increase in cases.

Trump is like the worst manager ever who has constantly failed sideways.
The kind who presents numbers they don't understand in the flashiest way possible, whilst everyone else in the meeting is wondering why they used comic sans on their presentation, and how come Donnie can't count!

Itssoeasy

banie01 wrote: »

Trump really went above and beyond in showing himself as an incompetent buffoon with no grasp on the facts and figures of the shítstorm he is presiding over.

Wallace's point on the test numbers in particular, that a 34% increase in tests should not equate to to a 194% increase in cases.

Trump is like the worst manager ever who has constantly failed sideways.
The kind who presents numbers they don't understand in the flashiest way possible, whilst everyone else in the meeting is wondering why they used comic sans on their presentation, and how come Donnie can't count!

That was a brilliant point by a seasoned pro.

banie01

Itssoeasy wrote: »

That was a brilliant point by a seasoned pro.

Similar work with the mortality rates too.
He really managed the interview brilliantly and left Trump walk himself into a state of floundering stupidity.

Itssoeasy

banie01 wrote: »

Similar work with the mortality rates too.
He really managed the interview brilliantly and left Trump walk himself into a state of floundering stupidity.

Well as I said this isn't chris wallaces first rodeo.

TomOnBoard

banie01 wrote: »

Trump really went above and beyond in showing himself as an incompetent buffoon with no grasp on the facts and figures of the shítstorm he is presiding over.

Wallace's point on the test numbers in particular, that a 34% increase in tests should not equate to to a 194% increase in cases.

Trump is like the worst manager ever who has constantly failed sideways.
The kind who presents numbers they don't understand in the flashiest way possible, whilst everyone else in the meeting is wondering why they used comic sans on their presentation, and how come Donnie can't count!

At one point, Trump insisted that Biden had said, in writing, (in his concordat with Sanders) that he wanted to 'Defund the Police'.

Wallace said No! He did not say that. Trump argued vehemently and stopped the interview insisting that one of his aides go get the document... Needless to say, he couldn't find Biden saying that.... Boy, was he pissed at Wallace!!!

Itssoeasy

I've checked and it was Lesley stahl who asked the press secretary who was running the government and he made a balls of answering it and SOS Alexander haig answered.

jamule

Well thats Biden fooked then. Donny knows what an elephant looks like.

salmocab

banie01 wrote: »

Similar work with the mortality rates too.
He really managed the interview brilliantly and left Trump walk himself into a state of floundering stupidity.

I know he’s terrible at constructing sentences but when talking about the mortality rates he said something along the lines of I heard we were the best or had the best figures. It really struck me as an odd way to say something that your putting out as a good thing. The ‘I heard’ bit is a bizarre way for a leader to refute a claim.

Itssoeasy

TomOnBoard wrote: »

At one point, Trump insisted that Biden had said, in writing, (in his concordat with Sanders) that he wanted to 'Defund the Police'.

Wallace said No! He did not say that. Trump argued vehemently and stopped the interview insisting that one of his aides go get the document... Needless to say, he couldn't find Biden saying that.... Boy, was he pissed at Wallace!!!

Sure why was he pissed at Wallace for ? He pushed the issue and got the document and was proved wrong. If he'd made his point and Wallace said that's not true and not went to the lengths he did it wouldn't have been as bad.

Blowfish

salmocab wrote: »

I know he’s terrible at constructing sentences but when talking about the mortality rates he said something along the lines of I heard we were the best or had the best figures. It really struck me as an odd way to say something that your putting out as a good thing. The ‘I heard’ bit is a bizarre way for a leader to refute a claim.

Trump always does that when he's lying. He'll say 'I heard' or 'many people are saying'. It's a way of having plausible deniability because if he's proven wrong he can just say 'well that's what I heard' as if it wasn't himself saying it.

Quin_Dub

salmocab wrote: »

I know he’s terrible at constructing sentences but when talking about the mortality rates he said something along the lines of I heard we were the best or had the best figures. It really struck me as an odd way to say something that your putting out as a good thing. The ‘I heard’ bit is a bizarre way for a leader to refute a claim.

It's classic Trump ass covering.

"I heard" means that he can blame someone else when he's called out on it.

Same as his "A lot of people are saying..." thing

PropJoe10

jamule wrote: »

Trump does not have the balls nor the ability to pull something like that off. As soon as it starts to look like a lost cause he will be out of the game, and it will be fun.

Wouldnt be at all surprised if he bailed out with some phoney medical excuse if his polling continues like this closer to the election. His fragile ego could get the better of him.

Water John

Probably his worst interview. Chris Wallace destroyed him, on Fox News.
Who thought this would be a good idea? Wallace had his research and figures, and Trump couldn't shut him down like at the WH Press room.

Quin_Dub

Water John wrote: »

Probably his worst interview. Chris Wallace destroyed him, on Fox News.
Who thought this would be a good idea? Wallace had his research and figures, and Trump couldn't shut him down like at the WH Press room.

All Wallace did was actually interview him though.

Instead of acting like a compere at a party political broadcast, he asked him questions and challenged him on facts, like the actual journalist that he is.

The fact that everyone is so surprised by it just shows how utterly sycophantic his previous interviewers were.

It also showed just how simple it is to completely throw Trump.

His utter lack of actual knowledge beyond Fox News talking points was telling. He is no more informed them the annoying guy propping up the end of bars (usually) the length and breadth of the country.

He has access to more detailed information than any other human on the planet pretty much, and he knows none of it.

The only potentially useful thing about this interview is that it's on Fox. Will his base see it and finally see the Naked Emperor or will they just think Wallace is a deep state plant

Headshot

Any Link of this interview please?

Itssoeasy

Headshot wrote: »

Any Link of this interview please?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nof1LyQudAM

This isn't the full interview which Fox News put up on YouTube which is over forty minutes long so I won't link directly to that as that's not fair. In the clip above though he says that the Supreme Court Daca decision gave him authority to sort out healthcare which makes no sense.

Water John

'Anthony Scaramucci, Trump’s former director of communications, tweeted: “The Chris Wallace interview is Biden’s campaign ad.”
Guardian

duploelabs

Headshot wrote: »

Any Link of this interview please?

ExMachina1000

For the sake of the United states as a nation battling a virus Trump has to go. Saying that even with a different president in place many people will still do their own thing.

A hated president by the media and a global pandemic and race riots at the same time.

Trump has zero chance of reelection. Biden is a crap other option too

awec

That interview is extraordinary.

You can tell he's uncomfortable being directly questioned by looking at his face, and the fact that he looks like someone threw a glass of water on him.

Harry Palmr

What;s the situation with Trump and Fox News? Is Chris Wallace licensed to go against the grain or has the station started to become Trumpsceptic*




*that word is not underlined in red in my browser as I type this. Checks dictionary definition

Quin_Dub

Harry Palmr wrote: »

What;s the situation with Trump and Fox News? Is Chris Wallace licensed to go against the grain or has the station started to become Trumpsceptic*




*that word is not underlined in red in my browser as I type this. Checks dictionary definition

There has always been two versions of Fox News.

Actual Journalists like Wallace, Baier and a few others and then the 'Opinion' propaganda team of Hannity, Carlson,Ingraham, Pirro et al.

It's just rare that Trump sits down with any of Journalists instead of one of his Cheerleaders.

TomOnBoard

Water John wrote: »

Probably his worst interview. Chris Wallace destroyed him, on Fox News.
Who thought this would be a good idea? Wallace had his research and figures, and Trump couldn't shut him down like at the WH Press room.

Dreadful performance. Reminded me of the TV debate between Kennedy and Nixon back in the day when Tricky Dicky melted into a pool of sweat before the cool Kennedy performance.

Jeez... makeup to soak up the sweat Donald.

As for the rest? Pure and utter BS trotted out as Presidential utterance..

aloyisious

Harry Palmr wrote: »

What;s the situation with Trump and Fox News? Is Chris Wallace licensed to go against the grain or has the station started to become Trumpsceptic*




*that word is not underlined in red in my browser as I type this. Checks dictionary definition

It just might mean that, with one person on holiday, the journalists with a nose for facts are now in charge of Fox News channel.

Tell me how

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I have family in the United states. Two of my relations have sons in the military.
Before the coronavirus started my dad was over in the states in holiday.
The topic of Trump inevitably came up and my relations(Trump supporters) said if he loses the election he feels that Trump will have the support of the military to take over control of the government permanently.

They said they would support this type of coup and think its possible that certain sections have already started training for it.

Trump supporters are apparently stock piling weapons and in border states such as Texax people are buying military grade firearms from cartels

This is absolutely, categorically, untrue.

I'm living in the states and anyone I speak to who is a Trump fan still thinks his handling of Covid-19 has been way below what it should have been (I am aware there are people who exist who think he has done fine and its a Chinese/Democrat Hoax but lets stick with reality).

But on the topic of the army supporting him to take over? The much discussed 2nd amendment is specifically argued for so as to prevent a dictatorial government taking over. Most of the supporters of the Republican party are also staunch advocates of the 2A for this reason as they also have a natural inclination towards limiting government involvement in their lives as much as possible and the idea that it might be made easier for the government to interfere is anathema to them.

The idea that they would support what would in effect be a coup (nonetheless one led by the President) is an idea that has no basis in the real world.

Tell me how

Quin_Dub wrote: »

It's classic Trump ass covering.

"I heard" means that he can blame someone else when he's called out on it.

Same as his "A lot of people are saying..." thing

In his interview with Chris Wallace, he was talking about Covid and said something along the lines of 'They said it would go in the summer when the heat increased', I was waiting for Chris to say, 'Yes, YOU said it!'.

Rjd2

Quin_Dub wrote: »

There has always been two versions of Fox News.

Actual Journalists like Wallace, Baier and a few others and then the 'Opinion' propaganda team of Hannity, Carlson,Ingraham, Pirro et al.

It's just rare that Trump sits down with any of Journalists instead of one of his Cheerleaders.

Yeah you can criticise their politics, but always find those who ramble how Fox is supposedly a blind cult when it comes to Trump very naive.

You will find plenty of criticism of the GOP from Fox from all factions such as Wallace, Tucker,,,you won't get the big names on CNN and MSNBC daring to criticise the DNC bar Jake Tapper.

Tell me how

Rjd2 wrote: »

Yeah you can criticise their politics, but always find those who ramble how Fox is supposedly a blind cult when it comes to Trump very naive.

You will find plenty of criticism of the GOP from Fox from all factions such as Wallace, Tucker,,,you won't get the big names on CNN and MSNBC daring to criticise the DNC bar Jake Tapper.

Rjd2

Tell me how wrote: »

He likes Trump , but is a huge critic of a lot of the establishment Republicans and especially of their love of the "free" markets and overseas foreign policies.

Has called for a few Republican senators to be thrown out of the party recently and all would be matey with Trump.

Not saying Tucker is a good dude as he obviously isn't, but his show is not a safe space for the GOP whatsoever.

PropJoe10

Water John wrote: »

'Anthony Scaramucci, Trump’s former director of communications, tweeted: “The Chris Wallace interview is Biden’s campaign ad.”
Guardian

It was incredibly embarrassing. Difficult to look at. You can see that all he's thinking is "How dare anyone challenge ME". Blundering blustering rubbish coming out of his mouth. If I was Biden's campaign manager I'd be working on an ad right now that's based on that interview.