Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

ELM327

ELM327 wrote: »

Like all the morons who stated they'd leave the US if Trump won, only to not leave?

It's hardly an extreme strategy that he's proposed and understandable tbh.

Stallingrad

ELM327 wrote: »

Like all the morons who stated they'd leave the US if Trump won, only to not leave?

No, not like them.

pixelburp

ELM327 wrote: »

Like all the morons who stated they'd leave the US if Trump won, only to not leave?

Your sneering aside, taking a break from extreme and overpowering news events is a sane action - which given the current circumstances even you might appreciate. Social media has been shown to have a profound effect on people's mood and mental health. I had myself banned from the CoVid forum and went on a self-imposed media blackout at the height of lockdown because a constant avalanche of negative, depressing news was having a serious, deteriorative effect on my mental health.

Watching "The greatest country on earth" slowly dissolve into a vat of wannabe authoritarianism through incompetence, greed and malice - while its population dies for the same reasons - makes for depressing reading. I could totally appreciate why some might decide to take a break from the news. "Morons" they are not

ELM327

pixelburp wrote: »

Your sneering aside, taking a break from extreme and overpowering news events is a sane action - which given the current circumstances even you might appreciate. Social media has been shown to have a profound effect on people's mood and mental health. I had myself banned from the CoVid forum and went on a self-imposed media blackout at the height of lockdown because a constant avalanche of negative, depressing news was having a serious, deteriorative effect on my mental health.

Watching "The greatest country on earth" slowly dissolve into a vat of wannabe authoritarianism through incompetence, greed and malice - while its population dies for the same reasons - makes for depressing reading. I could totally appreciate why some might decide to take a break from the news. "Morons" they are not

I can appreciate that, I have done the same for facebook several times. Delete app and take a few weeks off.
Regardless of political viewpoints, mental health is very important for us all and should be safeguarded.

relax carry on

ELM327 wrote: »

Like all the morons who stated they'd leave the US if Trump won, only to not leave?

What is it exactly that you admire about Trump and what he and his administration is doing to the US? Have you considered why some might state they would leave (regardless of whether they did or not) the environment Trump is creating?

ELM327

relax carry on wrote: »

What is it exactly that you admire about Trump and what he and his administration is doing to the US? Have you considered why some might state they would leave (regardless of whether they did or not) the environment Trump is creating?

They didnt leave in 2016.




Trump and the Trump presidency is a perfect riposte to the SJWs, the political correctness brigade, and the Democrats.

The Raging Bile Duct

ELM327 wrote: »

They didnt leave in 2016.




Trump and the Trump presidency is a perfect riposte to the SJWs, the political correctness brigade, and the Democrats.

What good has he actually done or is it just a case of he's great because he annoys the purple hair brigade?

Penn

ELM327 wrote: »

Trump and the Trump presidency is a perfect riposte to the SJWs, the political correctness brigade, and the Democrats.

Is that what's important in a Presidency? Sure, 170,000+ people are dead due to the mismanagement by his administration (and more will either suffer health issues from the virus or financial issues due to the healthcare system), but hey, at least there was a picture of a woman with pink hair crying after he was elected, right?

one armed dwarf

20% of the world's covid's deaths and less than 5% of the world's population, really showed those SJW purple haired brigade what's what.

aloyisious

ELM327 wrote: »

They didnt leave in 2016.




Trump and the Trump presidency is a perfect riposte to the SJWs, the political correctness brigade, and the Democrats.

And his latest trolling riposte to the U.S in general, that because he was "spied on" he'll stay on in office for another four years after his second term.

pixelburp

"liberal tears" is such an asinine, immature response to a president who has shown himself wilfully disinterested in anything even resembling a democratic norm. Or indeed capable of handling an existential crisis that has no regard for whether its victims are SJWs or Red Staters.

Leroy42

ELM327 wrote: »

Trump and the Trump presidency is a perfect riposte to the SJWs, the political correctness brigade, and the Democrats.

Is it really? Trump has some of the thinnest skin imaginable. He is easily triggered. He cannot deal with negative comments from anyone, particularly women.

In terms of PC, he has simply moved the goalposts. Before it was that one should be mindful of offending others, now it is simply that to disagree with him is unpatriotic and anti-American. Isn't the ultimate PC that Trump and his ilk can get so triggered because a few people want to kneel for the anthem rather than stand. Is it to be decrying simply because Trump and his supporters are offended!

As for the Democrats, he has proven them right on many things. They were right about healthcare, the entire GOP acknowledged that Obamacare was so good as to to be left alone.
Trumps bailouts to farmers prove that handouts are a good thing, that socialism - all playing their pat in the whole succeeding) has a place and can be beneficial to the entire community.
He also gave the DNC a massive electoral win in 2018.

relax carry on

ELM327 wrote: »

Trump and the Trump presidency is a perfect riposte to the SJWs, the political correctness brigade, and the Democrats.

So you'd cheer on the destruction of a country/society to feel better about groups of people/ideas you don't like?

Also I note you didn't actually mention any policies etc attributable to Trump that you admire. Just the childish view of the world, he's against the things I don't like.

Gbear

The existence of the term "political correctness" is in itself a failure of journalism.

Political correctness is sending your daughter away because she got pregnant out of wedlock. It's everyone pretending that the priest down the road isn't a kiddy fiddler and letting him get away with it. The informal suppressive effect of conservative shame culture is political correctness and has always existed.

But as with all reactionary propaganda, the gormless liberal press has totally failed to get to grips with this, and has allowed them to set the narrative that it's the left that want to control everyone, when its a central pillar of conservatism.

Republicans whine about the war on Christmas, about the scary brown people that moved next door, about having to wear a mask to stop a ****ing plague, but the real advent of tyranny was when people were asked not to invite fascists to speak at universities.

ancapailldorcha

ELM327 wrote: »

Trump and the Trump presidency is a perfect riposte to the SJWs, the political correctness brigade, and the Democrats.

Agreed.

What Trump's presidency has shown is that a man who has no talent or interest in anything but self-aggrandisment is a singularly appalling basis for a government. Governing a nation involves work, diplomacy and either expertise or the willingness to seek it out.

Trump has shown just how catastrophic a failure that an ideology based angry white nationalism guarantees by its very nature. The US with its history of checks and balances and its influece on global affairs was simultaneously the best and worst country for this to happen to. He has accomplished nothing other than the spectacular and repearted humiliation of both himself and his country again and again. That the richest country in the world has so many deaths is an abomination. That this happened beacuse its leader wanted to pretend it didn't exist, wasn't a thread or was some Chinese concoction is unforgiveable.

banie01

aloyisious wrote: »

And his latest trolling riposte to the U.S in general, that because he was "spied on" he'll stay on in office for another four years after his second term.

Was just about to post that.
Not as if the 22nd amendment matters, surely Trump and Barr can come up with their very own Reichstag fire!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-third-term-because-they-spied-on-him-1045743/

The fact that some posters here and more worryingly voters stateside, do not see Trump, Barr and the constant subversion of opposition and efforts to disenfranchise citizens as an existential threat to US democracy is astonishing.

Christy42

ELM327 wrote: »

They didnt leave in 2016.




Trump and the Trump presidency is a perfect riposte to the SJWs, the political correctness brigade, and the Democrats.

Great. The best thing about him is he makes people you don't like miserable. Nothing about a better country for all.

No I just don't like it being pointed out when people say racist things. That is enough to let him away with mass corruption, nepotism, repeatedly breaking laws, lying and a massive deficit in leadership leading to no unified reaction to the biggest pandemic in decades.

Leroy42

banie01 wrote: »

Was just about to post that.
Not as if the 22nd amendment matters, surely Trump and Barr can come up with their very own Reichstag fire!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-third-term-because-they-spied-on-him-1045743/

The fact that some posters here and more worryingly voters stateside, do not see Trump, Barr and the constant subversion of opposition and efforts to disenfranchise citizens as an existential threat to US democracy is astonishing.

They do see it, but it is upsetting 'others', mainly libtards, and as such is worth it.

They feel part of the gang, the protected and special class. So getting conservative judges appointed, which would be seen as politicalisation in most counties and the completely wrong way to deal with the upholding of laws, is actually seen as a positive as they think it will benefit them and target the 'others'.

Muahahaha

Just watching some clips from last nights DNC and one stood out to me. A lady from Arizona whose father was a Trump supporter and voter and ended up dying of the virus because he was influenced by Trump saying it was nothing to worry about and it would go away

Urquiza talked about her father's trust in Trump, and how he went out to a karaoke bar in May after the state reopened businesses.

“He had faith in Donald Trump," she said. "[He] listened to him, believed him and his mouthpieces when they said that coronavirus was under control and going to disappear; that it was OK to end social distancing rules before it was safe and that if you had no underlying health conditions."

A few weeks after the karaoke outing, Urquiza said her father was hospitalized and put on a ventilator.

"After five agonizing days, he died alone in the ICU with a nurse holding his hand," she said as the slideshow displayed an image of her father in the hospital.

Urquiza said that Trump didn't cause the virus, "but his dishonesty and his irresponsible actions made it so much worse."

The video is here, its moving stuff and it just goes to show the danger of Trump and his ramblings. His cult believe him and in this instance it cost a father his life.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kristin-urquiza-daughter-lost-father-covid-19-blames/story?id=72433606

Overheal

ELM327 wrote: »

I can appreciate that, I have done the same for facebook several times. Delete app and take a few weeks off.
Regardless of political viewpoints, mental health is very important for us all and should be safeguarded.

Agree. Facebook is particularly toxic because community standards are so scattershot, Enforcement of decorum is extremely lacking and people just yell **** for the likes and the notifications get ridiculous. It’s an awful app where if someone loses an argument it’s met with facilitated cyber stalking.

StringerBell

Republican led senate intelligence committee out today documenting all of the contacts between Trump campaign and the Kremlin, finds the campaign open to the help of the American adversary same as every other investigation. Names kilminick as an actual russian intelligence agent for the first time I believe.

Not that it will matter a jot.

looksee

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53825403

Trump to pardon women's voting pioneer Susan B Anthony. What a pity no-one did it before. This is the centenary of the 19th amendment which gave women the right to vote in the US, and that stalwart of women's rights gets to pardon her. I wonder if she would pass on a pardon from him?

ancapailldorcha

Mod: No insults please. Post deleted.

Quin_Dub

looksee wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53825403

Trump to pardon women's voting pioneer Susan B Anthony. What a pity no-one did it before. This is the centenary of the 19th amendment which gave women the right to vote in the US, and that stalwart of women's rights gets to pardon her. I wonder if she would pass on a pardon from him?

I'd say she'd prefer he pass the equal right amendment for women

Igotadose

Quin_Dub wrote: »

I'd say she'd prefer he pass the equal right right for women

Huh? Equal Rights Amendment? Not an issue for the POTUS, out of his hands. Haven't looked into where it's at these days, some legal challenge I suppose as there's been 2/3 ratification (over a very long time period.)

Pretty sad that once that happened, the odious Phyllis Schlafly's ended up in the media again with some crap TV dramas.

BorneTobyWilde

Trump is talking like a man that won't accept the result if he loses, will call for another election.

ExMachina1000

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump is talking like a man that won't accept the result if he loses, will call for another election.

I would imagine he will accept the result if he loses.

looksee

Quin_Dub wrote: »

I'd say she'd prefer he pass the equal right right for women

I just checked that up. I had not been aware of it, though I was vaguely aware of the Phylis Schlafly business. Its hard to believe.

Eduard Khil

Florida ballot papers are known to abscond in times such as these or was that just for dubya

StringerBell

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I would imagine he will accept the result if he loses.

Doesn't matter whether he does or doesn't. Once the results are announced its out of his hands, that's why it's in his best interests to suppress and cheat as much as he possibly can to stop it being taken out of his hands.