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Is anyone else getting scared of where society is going?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 83,483 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    An American woman teaches in my school. She had 12-year-old Vietnamese kids doing presentations on BLM and was lecturing them about racism and apparently won't shut up about Trump all year.

    Complete and utter bell ends these people. Leave your politics at the door.

    Did this also go for the geography teacher I had in Ennis that would always prattle on about Protectionism and Mobuto given half the chance? Whats the line


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,696 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    The major thing that worries me about society is the amplification of extreme opinions on every side, the idea that there can only be two sides to a subject and the fact that the majority of people are moderate but their voice is not proportionally represented in debate(media and social media).
    Discussion is less informative and more competitive(and not positively competitive). The etiquette of respecting the integrity of your opponent in politics has completely dissipated. People would rather win than be just, fair, correct, fulfill their potential, leave the world a better place etc. People have always made a tonne of mistakes but now leaders knowingly do the wrong thing. It's bizarre, their lives have no purpose beyond that of any mammal(consume, replicate and die)

    Squeaky wheel gets the grease never was more true.

    I'm living in the US at the moment so watching Irish affairs from afar for now (your point about extreme opinions is certainly the case here also) and I have been very frustrated with some of the behaviour of what should be diplomatically aware and savvy politicians/groups/individuals in Ireland at the moment.
    Everyone seems guilty of it, FG are well able to pass judgement on SF, who are able to pass judgement on FF, who are able to pass judgement on the Greens who are able to pass judgement on FG in ever increasing decibel levels. I saw a tweet from someone in the Greens saying the current Minister for Education isn't what people voted for, but maybe the same could be said about the current Minister for Media, Arts, Culture, Sport etc not able to answer why traffic is being allowed in to the Phoenix Park again. Or how many Green members moved the goalposts while the PFG for government was being negotiated and abandoned support for their party leadership.
    SF are disgusted with Barry Cowen but their members nominated Paddy Holohan as Dublin Lord Mayor while another TD refused to pay rent arrears until they won their seat.
    Irish 'Nationalists' are inflammed about a Green TD being in a picture with Peter Thatchell but ok with someone being in a picture with Mike Tyson.
    In the North, all non SF parties want a public investigation in to the Bobby Storey funeral while SF refuse to see any fault in their behavior and are focused in wanting an investigation in to how so many bonfires were lit with provocative signage over the weekend.

    It feels like the whole world needs to be put down for a nap. Some of the above, I think has been as a consequence of the stress that people are under over the last few months but I fear more of it is because of the 'success' of campaigns in 2016 (you know the ones) which showed that you can just say what you want and it doesn't matter how rude or flat out untrue it is. High level politics is devoid of measured, professional diplomacy at the moment and we are all the worse off because of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Absolutely devastating analysis on where we are and where we're going in Ireland by one of our best Socialist writers, Angela Nagle.
    Don't be put off by the Socialist tag, she's a real Socialist unlike the multitude of pseudo American Capitalist whores in Ireland who fraudulently call themselves 'the left'
    Please read and share.

    https://unherd.com/2020/07/will-ireland-survive-the-woke-wave/

    She's bang on if only for this para:

    "As self-flagellating stories about the Irish public’s racism are set to now become a daily part of life, Ireland’s elites can breathe a sigh of relief. Any populist pressure they sensed brewing while overseeing a deeply economically unequal society with skyrocketing homelessness, rents and outward youth migration can now be replaced with an imported moral narrative that turns the spotlight around on the reactionary masses who must, in the name of equality, learn to think of themselves as privileged."

    "Woke" gobshites will ra-ra about American bullshit pseudo politics 2000 miles away and take their eye off of the things that they should be concerned about IN THIS COUNTRY and all the while you'll have other clowns strawmanning them as "the left" because they took their eye off of the ball a long time ago.

    TPTB are laughing up their sleeves at both "sides".


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Sinn Fein are the Party of the Republican movement and they are certainly left leaning and very much pro immigration.

    No party is going to say that they are anti immigration.


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