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Is anyone else getting scared of where society is going?

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    #212
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Never underestimate that buffon, he has defied all odds to date, don't be surprised of a reelection
    I'm now at over 50% against him being reelected but as an incumbent yes he still has a chance. That chance IMO is getting smaller and smaller but still a way to go though.


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    #213
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    America is far from a democracy, it's a plutocracy disguised as a democracy, only nobody told the general population
    Eh, I'm talking about the primaries that got Biden to this point, not the election.


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    #214
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    is_that_so wrote:
    I'm now at over 50% against him being reelected but as an incumbent yes he still has a chance. That chance IMO is getting smaller and smaller but still a way to go though.

    I would normally agree with your opinion but this is far from normal times, whereby the unusual is occurring more frequently, I certainly won't be surprised of a reelection, millions of voters love him, and they ll turn up on the day


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    #215
    joe40
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    I'm now at over 50% against him being reelected but as an incumbent yes he still has a chance. That chance IMO is getting smaller and smaller but still a way to go though.

    He still has a chance, but that says more about the intelligence of large swathes of the American electorate than the ability of Trump as President.


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    #216
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    joe40 wrote:
    He still has a chance, but that says more about the intelligence of large swathes of the American electorate than the ability of Trump as President.


    I wouldn't class it as an intelligence issue, more a hatred issue of the establishment, which is understandable, since they've been fcuking over the average American since forever


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    #217
    joe40
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I wouldn't class it as an intelligence issue, more a hatred issue of the establishment, which is understandable, since they've been fcuking over the average American since forever

    The republican party and Trump are very much part of the establishment.
    2016 was an incredible achievement convincing millions of Americans that a billionaire, reality TV star was a man of the people.


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    #218
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    joe40 wrote:
    The republican party and Trump are very much part of the establishment. 2016 was an incredible achievement convincing millions of Americans that a billionaire, reality TV star was a man of the people.


    Absolutely, both Dems and republicans are the establishment, the average Joe doesn't have political representation, and there's very little difference between both parties in regards policies, chomsky is spot on when he uses the term 'moderate republicans' to describe the dems, it ll be interesting to see what happens when trumps base finds out he's a conman, that's if they do figure it out


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    #219
    joe40
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Absolutely, both Dems and republicans are the establishment, the average Joe doesn't have political representation, and there's very little difference between both parties in regards policies, chomsky is spot on when he uses the term 'moderate republicans' to describe the dems, it ll be interesting to see what happens when trumps base finds out he's a conman, that's if they do figure it out

    Yeah, I fully agree with that. I'm no expert on American politics but the real power all seems tied up with money.
    Has there ever been an American president that wasn't independently wealthy beforehand? I don't know but I doubt it.


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    #220
    Galwayguy35
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    It's who people in the party chose and it's called democracy. He looks to be in a good position to win at present so that'll do them nicely.

    Yeah thats a great attitude to have, just get the other guy out even if the next one is another coffin dodger who doesn't even know whats going on half the time.

    And people here think our political system is bad!


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    #221
    is_that_so
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Yeah thats a great attitude to have, just get the other guy out even if the replacement is another coffin dodger who doesn't even know whats going on half the time.

    And people here think our political system is bad!
    It's the reality of something nobody can change. Accepting that and hoping the least worst option prevails is a healthy attitude.


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    #222
    ExMachina1000
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    joe40 wrote: »
    The republican party and Trump are very much part of the establishment.
    2016 was an incredible achievement convincing millions of Americans that a billionaire, reality TV star was a man of the people.

    Look at what the alternative was. Hillary Clinton!
    Hardly a woman for the common person either.

    Bad choices in 2016 and bad choices again in 2020. Although Biden would be a much better choice than Clinton


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    #223
    Dyr
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    joe40 wrote: »
    The republican party and Trump are very much part of the establishment.
    2016 was an incredible achievement convincing millions of Americans that a billionaire, reality TV star was a man of the people.

    There's an economist who put it simply: the voters had a choice between a candidate they knew was pushing the same old lies and candidate who they knew was a bull****ter

    They chose the bul****ter over the liar.


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    #224
    ChelseaRentBoy
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    There are cops in the US now refusing to enforce the rule of law against black people for fear of the consequences. The bottom line is black people make up 18% of the population of the United States but are responsible for over 56% of all major crimes including rape, murder and drug offences. But yeah its all the fault of white people according to the current virtue signalling mob.


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    #225
    Galwayguy35
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    It's the reality of something nobody can change. Accepting that and hoping the least worst option prevails is a healthy attitude.

    Its strange how in a country of 300 million people nearly all their Presidents for the last 40 years have been useless.

    I thought Clinton was capable until we all found out what he really was behind closed doors, Obama talked a big game but achieved nothing after 8 years and now Trump is digging a bigger hole every day that he will never be able to climb out of.


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    #226
    joe40
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    Bambi wrote: »
    There's an economist who put it simply: the voters had a choice between a candidate they knew was pushing the same old lies and candidate who they knew was a bull****ter

    They chose the bul****ter over the liar.

    Now they Trump is a bull****ter and a Liar it will be interesting what they do this time round.
    On the coffin dodger jibe about Biden, Trump is no spring chicken, they're similar age I think.


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    #227
    Galwayguy35
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    joe40 wrote: »
    Now they Trump is a bull****ter and a Liar it will be interesting what they do this time round.
    On the coffin dodger jibe about Biden, Trump is no spring chicken, they're similar age I think.

    Read it again what I said.


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    #228
    Homelander
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    ronivek wrote: »
    It's a factual statement: a white woman did indeed pull a gun on a black family. She was also charged.

    What headline would you suggest as an alternative?

    Just to address this, I said narrative, not headline.

    Some places are pushing a narrative that conveniently omits certain details of the story to present a situation where some crazy white woman pulled a gun on a black family arising from a minor misunderstanding.

    Not all - but certainly some. It's incredibly unethical journalism from some quarters who are eager to stoke the fires and create racial crimes or racists where none exist.

    Headlines are rarely fully accurate as they need to be consist and broadly tell the story in one sentence. So, a headline like "white woman arrested for pulling gun on black woman" is actually fine by me, as long as the story is told fairly and impartially in the ensuing article.

    Except that's not happening in many cases. I'm not claiming the woman was right in pulling a gun, but there was nothing remotely racist about the incident from her side, and there was an outrageous level of provocation from the other side who were behaving like complete scumbags as well.


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    #229
    LuasSimon
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    This country in particular rural Ireland has gone to the pits years ago .... your called a racist now if you try stop travellers robbing your house .... law abiding have no rights in this country .


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    #230
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Read it again what I said.

    Fair enough, I just read "coffin dodger" missed the word another. Sorry about that I did misinterpret your post


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    #231
    Mr. Karate
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Absolutely, both Dems and republicans are the establishment, the average Joe doesn't have political representation, and there's very little difference between both parties in regards policies, chomsky is spot on when he uses the term 'moderate republicans' to describe the dems, it ll be interesting to see what happens when trumps base finds out he's a conman, that's if they do figure it out

    Hillary was the establishment. If Trump was he wouldn't be fighting the establishment of both parties to get anything done.


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    #232
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Hillary was the establishment. If Trump was he wouldn't be fighting the establishment of both parties to get anything done.

    trump is his own establishment, hes a malignant narcissist, theres only one person in his world, everything and everyone else is for the taking


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    #233
    Silentcorner
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    Chris_Heilong wrote: »
    The media are disgusting and many are waking up to it.

    Absolutely agree....the media industry has morphed into a twitter mob with all the self righteousness and arrogance they have always had...anybody paying for information in this day and age would want to be asking themselves some serious questions....imagine paying money to a company that deliberately misinforms you just to keep you angry!!!!


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    #234
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Absolutely agree....the media industry has morphed into a twitter mob with all the self righteousness and arrogance they have always had...anybody paying for information in this day and age would want to be asking themselves some serious questions....imagine paying money to a company that deliberately misinforms you just to keep you angry!!!!

    because free 'information' is always the truth and well informed!


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    #235
    Silentcorner
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    because free 'information' is always the truth and well informed!

    Who said that?


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    #236
    Limpy
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    Black or White most of the Americans live behind the fake American dream bull crap. Star spangled banner baby, we are patriots, USA USA USA. Yeah America controls the world but man, they suck.


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    #237
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Who said that?

    no matter what trump says, theres not a big mad conspiracy of fake news in the msm, there is of course poorly formed opinions, like any source of information, and some well informed also. some paid services are probably well worth purchasing to gain access to these well informed sources


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    #238
    Silentcorner
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    no matter what trump says, theres not a big mad conspiracy of fake news in the msm, there is of course poorly formed opinions, like any source of information, and some well informed also. some paid services are probably well worth purchasing to gain access to these well informed sources

    Trump?....wasn't he the president that colluded with the Russians to beat Hillary?

    The entire industry is in the gutter...the news cycle used to be daily, then hourly, now it is by the minute...they can't sustain this!


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    #239
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Trump?....wasn't he the president that colluded with the Russians to beat Hillary?

    The entire industry is in the gutter...the news cycle used to be daily, then hourly, now it is by the minute...

    the industry certainly is in a lot of trouble, a retired journalist i use to meet regularly a few years ago told me he believes the digitization of the industry has fcuked up the industry. when he was working, reporters were given time to research stories, that no longer occurs, stories are up online almost as soon as they become known, without any research being done, but there is till some good journalism being done, you do have to sometimes search for it though, and id imagine some of those sources are behind paywalls


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    #240
    GarIT
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    KiKi III wrote: »
    White men form 80% of our government and you’re scared of them not having a voice, it’s totally irrational.

    It's not about them not having a voice. It's that a group of men discussing things wouldn't be allowed. Even men's rights organisations have been forced to include women in their discussion or risk having their bookings in venues cancelled or the meetings invaded and disrupted.

    A group of women discussing issues that affect women is fine. They were discussing national issues too though, and that wouldn't be allowed if it was men.


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    #241
    KiKi III
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    GarIT wrote: »
    It's not about them not having a voice. It's that a group of men discussing things wouldn't be allowed. Even men's rights organisations have been forced to include women in their discussion or risk having their bookings in venues cancelled or the meetings invaded and disrupted.

    A group of women discussing issues that affect women is fine. They were discussing national issues too though, and that wouldn't be allowed if it was men.

    So what panel was this? Because I’m not aware of any all-female government panels. And what was the subject of the meeting?


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