Pulling Ragwort

Mad_maxx

Water John wrote: »

Yeah SW agree your pic is a ragwort.
Def ragwort growing has nothing to do with fertiliser or ph.

so its not a case of undernourishment ?

Water John

No, and as I say, I sprayed them 4 years ago. Cut silage each year since, but they've returned with a fury this year.

endainoz

Pulled out the aul rag fork this evening, have to say I'm very impressed with it. Was only at it for an hour or so pulled a nice amount of them.

endainoz

Pulled out the aul rag fork this evening, have to say I'm very impressed with it. Was only at it for an hour or so pulled a nice amount of them.

Tomjim

does it get the roots up or does it snap

endainoz

Tomjim wrote: »

does it get the roots up or does it snap

Roots and all come up, you can see roots in the pic.

Lady Haywire

No big rough ragwort here but marsh ragwort, is that as bad? Doesn't look as bad anyway, can be mistaken for buttercups unless you look closely :pac:

Water John

Less dangerous but don't know how toxic it might be.

Mac Taylor

Water John wrote: »

Less dangerous but don't know how toxic it might be.

I spent an hour picking the neighbours ragwort by the boundary wall, he tops everything else......... better to pick than let the seeds blow into mine:mad:

patsy_mccabe

endainoz wrote: »

Pulled out the aul rag fork this evening, have to say I'm very impressed with it. Was only at it for an hour or so pulled a nice amount of them.

Have you tried it on thistles. Thistles are killing me here. Constant battle every year. Ragwort is long gone.

emaherx

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Have you tried it on thistles. Thistles are killing me here. Constant battle every year. Ragwort is long gone.

It's not great on the big spear thistles.

Lady Haywire

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Have you tried it on thistles. Thistles are killing me here. Constant battle every year. Ragwort is long gone.

Ah but do you not recall the tale of the blind man marrying off his daughter & him happy to hear about the thistles on the land

endainoz

emaherx wrote: »

It's not great on the big spear thistles.

I actually thought it did a decent job on spear thistles, even some docks came up with a bit of persuasion. But in fairness it works perfectly for what it's designed for. I can see this ragwort pulling becoming a bit of an obsession this summer!

whelan2

That's my bit done for today

_Brian

whelan2 wrote: »

That's my bit done for today

A fine crop

duffysfarm

Dont know if its just me but i have never noticed such big lumps of clay/soil coming up with ths ragweed this year when i pull them

ruwithme

I'm convinced ragwort are useful for something other than poisoning stock. too fine and healthy looking they are. Docks and nettles only grow through abandonment and plenty of manure

but the ragwort??
in time we could be paid to preserve fields off them

Water John

The Cinnabar Moth might become an endangered species.

ruwithme

We'll have to follow the money anyway John

emaherx

Water John wrote: »

The Cinnabar Moth might become an endangered species.

Looking around the country, I don't think there is any fear of that.

endainoz

Another box full pulled today, have them all bagged in a dry shed now. Just need to wait for a decent dry day to burn them.

Water John

AFAIK burning concentrates the toxins, so make sure no animals have access.

49801

Assuming no animals have access growing or pulled ragwort.

When is plant grown too much to be worth while pulling. As in at what stage are seeds already gone in the wind.

Got a patch here it’s beating me. A bit of rain is welcome to make the pulling easier

Buford T. Justice XIX

49801 wrote: »

Assuming no animals have access growing or pulled ragwort.

When is plant grown too much to be worth while pulling. As in at what stage are seeds already gone in the wind.

Got a patch here it’s beating me. A bit of rain is welcome to make the pulling easier

Any time is great, just try to take the root up too or it will just regrow next year.

Once the flowers are set, we usually pull the flowers off and put them in a bag by themselves and burn when dried out. And shallow bury the remainder of the plants.

blue5000

duffysfarm wrote: »

Dont know if its just me but i have never noticed such big lumps of clay/soil coming up with ths ragweed this year when i pull them

Have to agree, I think they rooted deeper in the dry spring this year.

Mad about baa baas

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

Any time is great, just try to take the root up too or it will just regrow next year.

Once the flowers are set, we usually pull the flowers off and put them in a bag by themselves and burn when dried out. And shallow bury the remainder of the plants.

I have a small paddock that I've usually wintered horses on .. for reasons beyond my control there is ragwort in high numbers that were not pulled.. have gone to seed and if I pull I think will break apart .. any suggestions

gozunda

Its also possible to rot them down.

Put in a large pile preferably on plastic and cover with sheets of galv or similar. It rots down well. Never had problem with seeds from this method.

gozunda

Mad about baa baas wrote: »

I have a small paddock that I've usually wintered horses on .. for reasons beyond my control there is ragwort in high numbers that were not pulled.. have gone to seed and if I pull I think will break apart .. any suggestions

Get a ragfork likes endainozs above. Great job for lifting both plant and roots. If they're seeding - use fertiliser bag or similar as you lift them

49801

Mad about baa baas wrote: »

I have a small paddock that I've usually wintered horses on .. for reasons beyond my control there is ragwort in high numbers that were not pulled.. have gone to seed and if I pull I think will break apart .. any suggestions

Remove what you can particularly the seed head. Get what you can next year

Mad about baa baas

49801 wrote: »

Remove what you can particularly the seed head. Get what you can next year

Perfect will do ..thaall for the replies

peterofthebr

So I pulled ragwort from a field today.. And just dumped them into a deep ditch where livestock can't get at them. Just wondering if I should have put them into a bag (seeds might spread) or throwing them into a the deep sheugh might be okay.

The sheugh is well fenced off and livestock won't reach down to them but seeds might still seed...

amacca

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119413643#Comment_119413643

Should be fine...I've done something similar for years. The place only has about 10/20 a year now. They will rot down....I usually pull long before they go to seed though.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119413643#Comment_119413643

They will still go to seed but the seed should not travel far. One think you could do is cover them with plastic or a tarp for 4-6 weeks. Throw a few pallets and/or tyres on top of the plastic.

bogman_bass

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/113940134#Comment_113940134

Are you killing the root though. Quick kills toilet that usually mean just the top growth is killed

Gant21

Anyone make soup with it, lady down the road does and she says it’s lovely.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119413643#Comment_119413643

I had never read "sheugh" written before. Had to google it.

But I've just realised that maybe that is what we've been saying all these years when we said "shore" for drain!

amacca

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414496#Comment_119414496

Never heard of ragworth soup???

Are you sure it's not nettle soup...I've made that and I prefer vegetable or a nice fresh pea soup

I always thought ragworth is toxic for humans too?

If it is I'd steer well clear of that one and definitely don't go over for dinner!😛

tanko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414496#Comment_119414496

Is that the woman with the purple skin and yellow hair???

Lime Tree Farm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414496#Comment_119414496

It's an old remedy - hence the wort in the plant name.

"Women use golden ragwort for treating irregular or painful menstrual periods and symptoms of menopause. They also use it to reduce pain and ease childbirth."

Jb1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414518#Comment_119414518

No your still OK. , a shore is a gravel drain that runs into a shuck (sheugh)

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415327#Comment_119415327

I can't find a definition of "shore" that corresponds to that with a quick google. We always said "shore" around here

My grandfather used to call Ragwort plants "Bulky shans" or "Bulky shants". I googled that just now and found a few hits on duchas.ie from old reports by schoolchildren. I think maybe that maybe comes from a bastardisation of Irish.

Google tells me the Irish for ragwort is buachalán or buachalán buí

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415361#Comment_119415361

There's a grand tune - a reel called 'Up Against the Buachaláns'. Some poor fella probably came up with it one day years ago when he was sent off to clear a few fields of them!

Here it is, among other names - https://thesession.org/tunes/964

whelan2

We're picking them in a field along the motorway atm. Just throwing the ones we pick across the fence

Cushtie

geosadán is what we knew them as growing up

Many the day we were sent off back to the big field picking them. Hated it.

893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415797#Comment_119415797

Same but I would had thought it was”yo-sadans”

Cushtie

Could be, but geosadán is what's sticking in my head from back then.

geosadán, m. (gs. & npl. -áin, gpl. ~).1. (a) Soft thistle. (b) Thin, withered, stalk (of thistle, ragweed). 2. (a) Thin, weedy, person. (b) Vain, showy, person. (Var:geosandán)

Which would seem to be more describing thistles or ragweed.

Then again in North Kerry sure we probably just used it as a catch all for thistles, ragworth and anything else your having 😁😁

Lime Tree Farm

I said last year I would never pull another one, fully intending to winter spray with 2-4d. Didn't happen, might tackle them tomorrow, should be easier after the rainfall we've had this weekend.

patsy_mccabe

We pronounce them "buu-la-hawns" here in east Clare.

Lime Tree Farm

open the link.

To the right of the Loudspeaker icon, click for pronunciations, C for Connaught, M for Munster or U for Ulster

https://www.focloir.ie/en/dictionary/ei/ragwort

Birdnuts

Anyone see much Cinnabar caterpillars on them this summer so far?? Seems to be a slow year for them my end, I guess the poor summer so far here in the NW hasn't helped:(