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Pulling Ragwort

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Water John wrote: »
    Yeah SW agree your pic is a ragwort.
    Def ragwort growing has nothing to do with fertiliser or ph.

    so its not a case of undernourishment ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    No, and as I say, I sprayed them 4 years ago. Cut silage each year since, but they've returned with a fury this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Pulled out the aul rag fork this evening, have to say I'm very impressed with it. Was only at it for an hour or so pulled a nice amount of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Pulled out the aul rag fork this evening, have to say I'm very impressed with it. Was only at it for an hour or so pulled a nice amount of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭Tomjim


    does it get the roots up or does it snap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Tomjim wrote: »
    does it get the roots up or does it snap

    Roots and all come up, you can see roots in the pic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    No big rough ragwort here but marsh ragwort, is that as bad? Doesn't look as bad anyway, can be mistaken for buttercups unless you look closely :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Less dangerous but don't know how toxic it might be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    Water John wrote: »
    Less dangerous but don't know how toxic it might be.

    I spent an hour picking the neighbours ragwort by the boundary wall, he tops everything else......... better to pick than let the seeds blow into mine:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    endainoz wrote: »
    Pulled out the aul rag fork this evening, have to say I'm very impressed with it. Was only at it for an hour or so pulled a nice amount of them.

    Have you tried it on thistles. Thistles are killing me here. Constant battle every year. Ragwort is long gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Have you tried it on thistles. Thistles are killing me here. Constant battle every year. Ragwort is long gone.

    It's not great on the big spear thistles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Have you tried it on thistles. Thistles are killing me here. Constant battle every year. Ragwort is long gone.

    Ah but do you not recall the tale of the blind man marrying off his daughter & him happy to hear about the thistles on the land :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭endainoz


    emaherx wrote: »
    It's not great on the big spear thistles.

    I actually thought it did a decent job on spear thistles, even some docks came up with a bit of persuasion. But in fairness it works perfectly for what it's designed for. I can see this ragwort pulling becoming a bit of an obsession this summer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,216 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    519848.jpeg

    That's my bit done for today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    whelan2 wrote: »
    That's my bit done for today

    A fine crop


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    Dont know if its just me but i have never noticed such big lumps of clay/soil coming up with ths ragweed this year when i pull them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    I'm convinced ragwort are useful for something other than poisoning stock. too fine and healthy looking they are. Docks and nettles only grow through abandonment and plenty of manure

    but the ragwort??
    in time we could be paid to preserve fields off them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The Cinnabar Moth might become an endangered species.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    We'll have to follow the money anyway John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Water John wrote: »
    The Cinnabar Moth might become an endangered species.

    Looking around the country, I don't think there is any fear of that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Another box full pulled today, have them all bagged in a dry shed now. Just need to wait for a decent dry day to burn them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    AFAIK burning concentrates the toxins, so make sure no animals have access.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    Assuming no animals have access growing or pulled ragwort.

    When is plant grown too much to be worth while pulling. As in at what stage are seeds already gone in the wind.

    Got a patch here it’s beating me. A bit of rain is welcome to make the pulling easier


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    49801 wrote: »
    Assuming no animals have access growing or pulled ragwort.

    When is plant grown too much to be worth while pulling. As in at what stage are seeds already gone in the wind.

    Got a patch here it’s beating me. A bit of rain is welcome to make the pulling easier

    Any time is great, just try to take the root up too or it will just regrow next year.

    Once the flowers are set, we usually pull the flowers off and put them in a bag by themselves and burn when dried out. And shallow bury the remainder of the plants.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    duffysfarm wrote: »
    Dont know if its just me but i have never noticed such big lumps of clay/soil coming up with ths ragweed this year when i pull them

    Have to agree, I think they rooted deeper in the dry spring this year.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas


    Any time is great, just try to take the root up too or it will just regrow next year.

    Once the flowers are set, we usually pull the flowers off and put them in a bag by themselves and burn when dried out. And shallow bury the remainder of the plants.
    I have a small paddock that I've usually wintered horses on .. for reasons beyond my control there is ragwort in high numbers that were not pulled.. have gone to seed and if I pull I think will break apart .. any suggestions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Its also possible to rot them down.

    Put in a large pile preferably on plastic and cover with sheets of galv or similar. It rots down well. Never had problem with seeds from this method.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    I have a small paddock that I've usually wintered horses on .. for reasons beyond my control there is ragwort in high numbers that were not pulled.. have gone to seed and if I pull I think will break apart .. any suggestions

    Get a ragfork likes endainozs above. Great job for lifting both plant and roots. If they're seeding - use fertiliser bag or similar as you lift them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    I have a small paddock that I've usually wintered horses on .. for reasons beyond my control there is ragwort in high numbers that were not pulled.. have gone to seed and if I pull I think will break apart .. any suggestions

    Remove what you can particularly the seed head. Get what you can next year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas


    49801 wrote: »
    Remove what you can particularly the seed head. Get what you can next year

    Perfect will do ..thaall for the replies


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭peterofthebr


    So I pulled ragwort from a field today.. And just dumped them into a deep ditch where livestock can't get at them. Just wondering if I should have put them into a bag (seeds might spread) or throwing them into a the deep sheugh might be okay.

    The sheugh is well fenced off and livestock won't reach down to them but seeds might still seed...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,201 ✭✭✭amacca


    Should be fine...I've done something similar for years. The place only has about 10/20 a year now. They will rot down....I usually pull long before they go to seed though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,581 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves



    They will still go to seed but the seed should not travel far. One think you could do is cover them with plastic or a tarp for 4-6 weeks. Throw a few pallets and/or tyres on top of the plastic.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Are you killing the root though. Quick kills toilet that usually mean just the top growth is killed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    Anyone make soup with it, lady down the road does and she says it’s lovely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,826 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    I had never read "sheugh" written before. Had to google it.

    But I've just realised that maybe that is what we've been saying all these years when we said "shore" for drain!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,201 ✭✭✭amacca


    Never heard of ragworth soup???


    Are you sure it's not nettle soup...I've made that and I prefer vegetable or a nice fresh pea soup


    I always thought ragworth is toxic for humans too?


    If it is I'd steer well clear of that one and definitely don't go over for dinner!😛



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    Is that the woman with the purple skin and yellow hair???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    It's an old remedy - hence the wort in the plant name.

    "Women use golden ragwort for treating irregular or painful menstrual periods and symptoms of menopause. They also use it to reduce pain and ease childbirth."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    No your still OK. , a shore is a gravel drain that runs into a shuck (sheugh)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,826 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    I can't find a definition of "shore" that corresponds to that with a quick google. We always said "shore" around here


    My grandfather used to call Ragwort plants "Bulky shans" or "Bulky shants". I googled that just now and found a few hits on duchas.ie from old reports by schoolchildren. I think maybe that maybe comes from a bastardisation of Irish.


    Google tells me the Irish for ragwort is buachalán or buachalán buí



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    There's a grand tune - a reel called 'Up Against the Buachaláns'. Some poor fella probably came up with it one day years ago when he was sent off to clear a few fields of them!

    Here it is, among other names - https://thesession.org/tunes/964



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,216 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    We're picking them in a field along the motorway atm. Just throwing the ones we pick across the fence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭Cushtie


    geosadán is what we knew them as growing up

    Many the day we were sent off back to the big field picking them. Hated it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,372 ✭✭✭893bet


    Same but I would had thought it was”yo-sadans”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭Cushtie


    Could be, but geosadán is what's sticking in my head from back then.

    geosadán, m. (gs. & npl. -áin, gpl. ~).1. (a) Soft thistle. (b) Thin, withered, stalk (of thistle, ragweed). 2. (a) Thin, weedy, person. (b) Vain, showy, person. (Var:geosandán)

    Which would seem to be more describing thistles or ragweed.

    Then again in North Kerry sure we probably just used it as a catch all for thistles, ragworth and anything else your having 😁😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    I said last year I would never pull another one, fully intending to winter spray with 2-4d. Didn't happen, might tackle them tomorrow, should be easier after the rainfall we've had this weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    We pronounce them "buu-la-hawns" here in east Clare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    open the link.

    To the right of the Loudspeaker icon, click for pronunciations, C for Connaught, M for Munster or U for Ulster

    https://www.focloir.ie/en/dictionary/ei/ragwort



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Anyone see much Cinnabar caterpillars on them this summer so far?? Seems to be a slow year for them my end, I guess the poor summer so far here in the NW hasn't helped:(



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