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Is this the worst estate in Ireland?

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    #62
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    AbusesToilets wrote: »
    Watching things like that, makes you wish the State would resettle folks like this on a remote island off the west coast.

    Yeah, but not any of our nice islands. We put them them Rockall. At least we could claim full sovereignty as no one else would want to go near it.


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    #63
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    my post may have been somewhat tongue in cheek

    It went over my head then! But it's a good point, it's usually the excuse for anti social behaviour then they get more facilities built only to be burnt out or vandalised.


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    #64
    Tasfasdf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    Pavee Point will be telling us its settled people pretending to be Travellers to make them look bad.


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    #65
    jim salter
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭jim salter


    gailforecast wrote: »
    This is normal. For the average law abiding citizen this might be shocking, but this is pretty much daily traveller behaviour.

    Problem is: If normal law adiding citizens acted like this they would have the book thrown at them.

    Effectively normal law adiding citizens are discriminated against by the courts because they are, well, normal law adiding citizens.

    These scumbags will have no real consequences as a result of this (yes 3 are up in court but there were a lot more than 3 involved.

    Also, it's a fairly shocking if this is accepted as 'normal'.


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    #66
    gailforecast
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 140 ✭✭gailforecast


    jim salter wrote: »
    Problem is: If normal law adiding citizens acted like this they would have the book thrown at them.

    Effectively normal law adiding citizens are discriminated against by the courts because they are, well, normal law adiding citizens.

    These scumbags will have no real consequences as a result of this (yes 3 are up in court but there were a lot more than 3 involved.

    Also, it's a fairly shocking if this is accepted as 'normal'.

    And of course these 3 disadvantaged youths will have a state appointed shrink and support group payed for by the tax payer, to find out why they’re so upset. It’s not really their fault though, if only they had space to play football.


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    #67
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 82,826 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    gailforecast wrote: »
    And of course these 3 disadvantaged youths will have a state appointed shrink and support group payed for by the tax payer, to find out why they’re so upset. It’s not really their fault though, if only they had space to play football.


    Far from youths...
    John Donoghue, 39, of Abbeylands, Mullingar, Martin Scally 36, and Dean Donoghue, 21, both of Farran Ashe, Mullingar, appeared in court this evening.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2020/0704/1151368-mullingar-arrests/


    What surprised me is they were each released on their own bale of €200, this wouldn't cover the price of one of the windows being replaced. Additionally looking on Google Maps the road these people live on is adjacent to where the incident took place, hardly a good idea them out and about in the area with just €200 a stake.


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    #68
    [Deleted User]
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    What surprised me is they were each released on their own bale of €200, this wouldn't cover the price of one of the windows being replaced. Additionally looking on Google Maps the road these people live on is adjacent to where the incident took place, hardly a good idea them out and about in the area with just €200 a stake.

    That isn't surprising.. The likes of these are dealt with very differently by the courts..


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    #69
    unhappys10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭unhappys10


    I didn't realise this was Mullingar.
    Grange Crescent, I used to be a postman and delivered there.
    An absolute kip, boarded up houses, burnt out cars. I came around a corner one day to see guards outside a house with a lad hanging out a top window waving a samurai sword at them.
    There are a few traveller families living there, but about 80% are just your average scum. Whole place should be bulldozed.


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    #70
    gailforecast
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 140 ✭✭gailforecast


    unhappys10 wrote: »
    I didn't realise this was Mullingar.
    Grange Crescent, I used to be a postman and delivered there.
    An absolute kip, boarded up houses, burnt out cars. I came around a corner one day to see guards outside a house with a lad hanging out a top window waving a samurai sword at them.
    There are a few traveller families living there, but about 80% are just your average scum. Whole place should be bulldozed.

    If you bulldoze it what then? All things considered, I’m grateful to have them contained to one area.


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    #71
    unhappys10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭unhappys10


    gailforecast wrote: »
    If you bulldoze it what then? All things considered, I’m grateful to have them contained to one area.

    Unpopular opinion alert: I'd be quite happy to have them all brought out to dig their own mass grave and have a firing squad put them in it.
    Too many bleeding hearts in the world though.
    They are a drain on society, they always will be as will their offspring, leeching off of society.


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    #72
    gailforecast
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 140 ✭✭gailforecast


    unhappys10 wrote: »
    Unpopular opinion alert: I'd be quite happy to have them all brought out to dig their own mass grave and have a firing squad put them in it.
    Too many bleeding hearts in the world though.
    They are a drain on society, they always will be as will their offspring, leeching off of society.

    And it’s only going to keep getting worse. Let’s do some basic maths here. Most young couples now may have one kid by the time they’re in their mid-thirties, due to saving for a deposit etc. Most traveller women have 5 kids by then. In one generation that’s 25. Another generation, it’ll be 625 wasters all from the same lineage.


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    #73
    Truthvader
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    unhappys10 wrote: »
    I didn't realise this was Mullingar.
    Grange Crescent, I used to be a postman and delivered there.
    An absolute kip, boarded up houses, burnt out cars. I came around a corner one day to see guards outside a house with a lad hanging out a top window waving a samurai sword at them.
    There are a few traveller families living there, but about 80% are just your average scum. Whole place should be bulldozed.

    Take note. In all fairness this seems to be a problem not exclusive to travellers. The above post is the only one with real information. Prejudice is pre-judging which is much in evidence here. Not cool.


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    #74
    Beechwoodspark
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    Anesthetize wrote: »
    They should bring back industrial schools and send all these little ****s to them. Teach them some manners.

    We need a serious reform of prison so that prison means hard labour and actual deprivation so that they are actually a punishment.


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    #75
    unhappys10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭unhappys10


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    We need a serious reform of prison so that prison means hard labour and actual deprivation so that they are actually a punishment.

    Or pay North Korea to take them into their prison system?


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    #76
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    unhappys10 wrote: »
    Or pay North Korea to take them into their prison system?

    Laugh all you like.

    All I know is that prison is not at all feared these days

    Rehab yes but Persons given a 10 years + sentence should be coming out of prison absolutely bet down and old before their time, so that they are unfit for any further crimes in society.


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    #77
    Blanco100
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    We need a serious reform of prison so that prison means hard labour and actual deprivation so that they are actually a punishment.

    And reform of social welfare. Until its not financially beneficial to have multiple children we will continue to see this kind of carry on.


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    #78
    unhappys10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭unhappys10


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Laugh all you like.

    All I know is that prison is not at all feared these days

    Rehab yes but Persons given a 10 years + sentence should be coming out of prison absolutely bet down and old before their time, so that they are unfit for any further crimes in society.

    Try reading what I said and understanding it this time.
    I was agreeing with you ffs.
    Our system is a joke, maybe somewhere harsher like NK would do a better job.


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    #79
    Mad_maxx
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    Cunning Stunt wrote: »
    Anyone know what the reason behind the attck on these two specific houses was? (If any)

    probably protesting against " the capitalist system "


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    #80
    Mad_maxx
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    Pkiernan wrote: »
    They obviously need to be given more dole and more lenient suspended sentences.

    That'll cool their jets.

    well thats what the left have espoused for thirty years and only a cynic would question their record


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    #81
    KungPao
    Registered Users Posts: 4,783 ✭✭✭KungPao


    That really is case for RUC type crowd control. Armoured vans, rubber bullets, tear gas, baton charges, The lot. What do we get, two Gardas just walking around. Joke.
    Those people should (they won’t) be ashamed of themselves. You get one life, make the best of yourself, don’t be such a waster.


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    #82
    Tokyo
    Registered Users Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Mod: I've just deleted and threadbanned a bunch of the usual shítstirrers. Straight to red cards and forum bans from here on in.


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    #83
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Scangers. Redefining white trash since 1990


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    #84
    Ray Donovan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    unhappys10 wrote: »
    Unpopular opinion alert: I'd be quite happy to have them all brought out to dig their own mass grave and have a firing squad put them in it.
    Too many bleeding hearts in the world though.
    They are a drain on society, they always will be as will their offspring, leeching off of society.

    You’re very much mistaken...that’s actually a popular opinion!


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    #85
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    probably protesting against " the capitalist system "

    Why, they don't like all the benefits? And D4 apartments,


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    #86
    SFC1895
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭SFC1895


    Easy to be judgmental in these circumstances
    Unless proper solutions are provided, this will continue in perpetuity

    Genuine ideas to address the matter are needed urgently
    Even then, implementation is key
    No one solution is possible here

    Instead a range of measures should be considered

    Central to this

    Should be what benefits society overall


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    #87
    Heres Johnny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    gailforecast wrote: »
    And it’s only going to keep getting worse. Let’s do some basic maths here. Most young couples now may have one kid by the time they’re in their mid-thirties, due to saving for a deposit etc. Most traveller women have 5 kids by then. In one generation that’s 25. Another generation, it’ll be 625 wasters all from the same lineage.

    Yes but they die quicker the poor creatures


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    #88
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    As a society we need to stop tolerating people like this.

    Imagine they were just locked up forever.

    20 less scumbags around to ruin everything.

    Keep doing that until they're all locked up.

    Some sort of three strikes law to just get rid of them all.


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    #89
    vicwatson
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    It's like some lad in fancy dress passed by and stopped for a chat

    No physical presence no authority= no fear

    Killinaskully


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    #90
    upandcumming
    Registered Users Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭upandcumming


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    Pavee Point will be telling us its settled people pretending to be Travellers to make them look bad.

    Which is strange too because the settled people are normally too busy going on to sites and dumping rubbish.


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    #91
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Esse85 wrote: »
    Would love to see the guards unleash a load of angry, hungry rottweilers on this vermin. Let the dogs take chunks out of this rotten human disease.

    I would just like to see them arrested.


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