Football and Covid 19

ArmaniJeanss

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1325492044941418502

I notice lots of the South American players have ignored this 'travel ban' imposed by the Italian health authorities.

adaminho

https://twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/1328428796308033538

Fitz*

Are they including the players that have tested positive while on international duty like Doherty, Eleny, Salah etc?

adaminho

Fitz* wrote: »

Are they including the players that have tested positive while on international duty like Doherty, Eleny, Salah etc?

These are test's that took place during the International break. It includes all coaches and players.

~Rebel~

adaminho wrote: »

These are test's that took place during the International break. It includes all coaches and players.

So it excludes those on international duty? Cause there's a shitload of cases from international duty. From Ireland alone there's now Doherty, Robinson, McClean, and Browne. (i know only half of those are Prem players)

It's a great test case scenario for broader society though - basically if you have any sort of a group, even exercising some distancing, if it's in there it'll get around.

adaminho

~Rebel~ wrote: »

So it excludes those on international duty? Cause there's a shitload of cases from international duty. From Ireland alone there's now Doherty, Robinson, McClean, and Browne. (i know only half of those are Prem players)

It's a great test case scenario for broader society though - basically if you have any sort of a group, even exercising some distancing, if it's in there it'll get around.

I don't think so, It's been level all along in the premiership and it seem's it's gone up this week. Is it a case of support staff relaxing whilst they have a lesser workload? I'm not saying it is either or but how do you decide?

ebbsy

Unless the vaccine is rolled out very quickly, can the Euros still be held in multiple countries ?

GLaDOS

ebbsy wrote: »

Unless the vaccine is rolled out very quickly, can the Euros still be held in multiple countries ?

They're looking at letting Russia host the whole thing I believe.

Cookiemunster

GLaDOS wrote: »

They're looking at letting Russia host the whole thing I believe.

That's just a rumour that's been rubbished by UEFA.

wadacrack

This is now 2 games that have been cancelled. At this rate I think International football should be halted until the Euro's where they can be essentially in bubble's etc.

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1328704986059059200

Cookiemunster

wadacrack wrote: »

This is now 2 games that have been cancelled. At this rate I think International football should be halted until the Euro's where they can be essentially in bubble's etc.

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1328704986059059200

After tomorrow there's no more international football until the end of March.

FatherTed

When will FIFA realize the stupidity of international duty during a global pandemic?

wadacrack

Interesting to see how this goes.


https://twitter.com/FootballOranje_/status/1334495037003083777

wadacrack

Newcastle Covid outbreak sounds pretty serious. Worrying to hear that two staff members are very ill and some players struggling with fatigue.


https://twitter.com/LukeEdwardsTele/status/1337336339029762049

wadacrack

Severe illness for RB Leipzig striker Hwang Hee-chan

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-soccer-hwang/soccer-leipzigs-hwang-has-still-not-shaken-off-effects-of-covid-19-nagelsmann-idUKKBN28L24Z

Unearthly

2 week circuit break for Premier league?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/12/29/exclusive-premier-league-clubs-discuss-two-week-break-season/

If they do a break, it would need to be longer as can't see UK having control in 2 weeks

wadacrack

Unearthly wrote: »

2 week circuit break for Premier league?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/12/29/exclusive-premier-league-clubs-discuss-two-week-break-season/

If they do a break, it would need to be longer as can't see UK having control in 2 weeks

I cant see it happening. Two week breaks with players spending more time at home with nothing to do could lead to more cases tbh. With testing twice a week they should get it under control. Championship L1 and L2 may struggle with no testing however. Hopefully they can continue to play.

The International break in marc may prove to be problematic . International travel seems quite strict atm with new variants etc

CSF

Unearthly wrote: »

2 week circuit break for Premier league?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/12/29/exclusive-premier-league-clubs-discuss-two-week-break-season/

If they do a break, it would need to be longer as can't see UK having control in 2 weeks

Some Sky sources had debunked that today saying that Premier League sources have said that it isn't currently being considered.


Considering that all the Christmas socialising cases won't yet be apparent in overall figures, things could still go way south though.


So I guess the 2 week break (there are no Premier League games next weekend due to the FA Cup) could potentially be useful in terms of avoiding having the lads together, so if a couple have it, you get them tested and isolated and avoid an overall outbreak within dressing rooms.


Some damage has clearly already been done in terms of outbreaks though.

TFBubendorfer

CSF wrote: »

So I guess the 2 week break (there are no Premier League games next weekend due to the FA Cup) could potentially be useful in terms of avoiding having the lads together, so if a couple have it, you get them tested and isolated and avoid an overall outbreak within dressing rooms.

They are training together every day, FA Cup or no FA Cup. There is no avoiding "having the lads together" as long as the season keeps going.

~Rebel~

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

They are training together every day, FA Cup or no FA Cup. There is no avoiding "having the lads together" as long as the season keeps going.

If they did go for the 'circuit breaker' move, I presume it would be more like the March/April lockdown, where they'd actually not train together, and would stay home with individual fitness workouts in an effort to get everyone over it and start with an internal clean slate.

beggars_bush

The FA cup mightn't continue due to lower league teams not having proper covid restrictions

Cookiemunster

~Rebel~ wrote: »

If they did go for the 'circuit breaker' move, I presume it would be more like the March/April lockdown, where they'd actually not train together, and would stay home with individual fitness workouts in an effort to get everyone over it and start with an internal clean slate.

The premier league have released a statement saying there's been no discussion of having any break and they're happy with the protocols.
https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1344385191524102144?s=19

inforfun

beggars_bush wrote: »

The FA cup mightn't continue due to lower league teams not having proper covid restrictions

Or they do like in The Netherlands, remove the lower league clubs.

FA cup has EL football attached so i guess it needs to be finished one way or the other.

eigrod

Boris addressing the nation tonight. Full lockdown expected. Will be interesting to see what he says about elite sport, but I would think a pause incoming.

https://twitter.com/peston/status/1346106536855302144?s=21

Edit:

https://twitter.com/robharris/status/1346119392866803712?s=21

Cookiemunster

Whatever about the lower divisions, I think a pause is unlikely for the PL. Players, coaches and staff are being tested twice weekly, outside public health resources, and despite some high profile stories, the vast majority of them are following the rules and positive case numbers have been very low.

wadacrack

eigrod wrote: »

Boris addressing the nation tonight. Full lockdown expected. Will be interesting to see what he says about elite sport, but I would think a pause incoming.

https://twitter.com/peston/status/1346106536855302144?s=21

Edit:

https://twitter.com/robharris/status/1346119392866803712?s=21

EFL now beginning testing along with Premier League. Highly unlikely to be a pause, especially with other leagues in Europe going ahead

~Rebel~

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Whatever about the lower divisions, I think a pause is unlikely for the PL. Players, coaches and staff are being tested twice weekly, outside public health resources, and despite some high profile stories, the vast majority of them are following the rules and positive case numbers have been very low.

Yeah, this makes sense to me. Would halt the lower divisions - probably everything from League 1 down - that can't afford regular testing (unless the cost of proper, regular testing is taken care of by the leagues), and halt the FA Cup for the same reason.

Mitch Connor

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Yeah, this makes sense to me. Would halt the lower divisions - probably everything from League 1 down - that can't afford regular testing (unless the cost of proper, regular testing is taken care of by the leagues), and halt the FA Cup for the same reason.

I think they will have to consider scrapping the FA Cup if any lower league teams couldn't play in it.

there simply won't be the time to play the rearranged fixtures - you are already going to see a mess of fixture issues for Spurs/Fulham and whomever else had games postponed

~Rebel~

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I think they will have to consider scrapping the FA Cup if any lower league teams couldn't play in it.

there simply won't be the time to play the rearranged fixtures - you are already going to see a mess of fixture issues for Spurs/Fulham and whomever else had games postponed

Yeah, would have to agree... of all the competitions left, it's the most easily dispensable and opens up a little space for the other leagues to get finished up.

Lower league clubs aren't getting the benefit of the gate-receipts split in bigger stadiums anyway, so the only loss is whatever tv money that might have come in. I wonder are TV rights a concern though? Is it a cost the FA would be willing to just take a hit on I wonder? Or could it be parlayed into some additional PL fixtures being shown on BBC and ITV?

Mitch Connor

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Yeah, would have to agree... of all the competitions left, it's the most easily dispensable and opens up a little space for the other leagues to get finished up.

Lower league clubs aren't getting the benefit of the gate-receipts split in bigger stadiums anyway, so the only loss is whatever tv money that might have come in. I wonder are TV rights a concern though? Is it a cost the FA would be willing to just take a hit on I wonder? Or could it be parlayed into some additional PL fixtures being shown on BBC and ITV?

there'd be TV deals and Sponsorship issues with cancelling it - even with playing on with no crowds (as we have already seen).

It would be very tough to cancel it, even if the need to becomes a real possibility.

I don't think there is any fear of the PL, unless the government force it down for optics, but anything L1 and lower will potentially not be able to comply with requirements to keep going.

wadacrack

Elite football going ahead in the UK. Good news

ongarite

Positive COVID cases increasing again after last round of testing. Show must go on.

https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1346484206814326784

PhilipsR

The house of cards surrounding the Premier League is falling down now.

Amazed they are continuing with the FA cup. for example, the team Spurs are playing, would they have sufficient space to offer the bigger changing rooms so players comply with the 1.5m?

ongarite

Not much longer left in this season now without a suspension/pause.
Villa latest team with significant outbreak among first team.

The mandatory testing for FA Cup this weekend has exposed how widespread COVID is within teams in all divisions.
It's no suprise based on the amount of cases in the UK daily and the new more transmittable strain.

tanko

Is there a minimum number for games at which the Premier league will be stopped for the season and a winner declared if the Covid situation gets worse?

CSF

tanko wrote: »

Is there a minimum number for games at which the Premier league will be stopped for the season and a winner declared if the Covid situation gets worse?

Not as such, but you would think we are nearing it.

ongarite

CSF wrote: »

Not as such, but you would think we are nearing it.

Because cases among Premier League teams will reach record high next week.

Burnley latest team to announce COVID outbreak.

The bubble has literally burst.

CSF

ongarite wrote: »

Because cases among Premier League teams will reach record high next week.

Burnley latest team to announce COVID outbreak.

The bubble has literally burst.

The next few days will be telling. West Brom saying they have cases also.

However, let’s bear in mind, there was an evening a week or so ago when City and Everton had been cancelled and Spurs Fulham was rumoured the same way, and there were multiple reports of a circuit breaker.

But the Premier League decided to plow ahead and honestly there are no guarantees that the same won’t happen.

JPA

The new variant is possibly causing the outbreaks as in the community across the UK (and Ireland).
The Euros should be cancelled now and allow the season to pause for at least a month.

It will only get worse.

niallo27

Call it quits now I think and which ever team is top should be champions. Its the fairest and safest thing to do.

Fitz*

I'm really getting a sense of 'when, not if' there is a break in football alright.

Will be a nightmare to try and work through the calender of fixtures. There should have been more talk around a contingency plan because possibility of this happening this season, instead of spending months trying to drown out the 'null & void' talk for months back in March & April. This second (and third) wave was always a worry and there was serious worries that this season would suffer a bite aswell.

wadacrack

JPA wrote: »

The new variant is possibly causing the outbreaks as in the community across the UK (and Ireland).
The Euros should be cancelled now and allow the season to pause for at least a month.

It will only get worse.

Theira a lcokdown in UK. The virus transmission rate will slow down. They have testing twice a week. Its going to be under control in a few weeks. People love bad news but the Premier League have handled it very well. The benefits of football at this level resuming outweigh the risks atm.

JPA

wadacrack wrote: »

Theira a lcokdown in UK. The virus transmission rate will slow down. They have testing twice a week. Its going to be under control in a few weeks. People love bad news but the Premier League have handled it very well. The benefits of football at this level resuming outweigh the risks atm.

Yes, a few weeks. So it might need a break now. I know it's a disastrous fixture wise, so I'm sure things will have to become almost impossible to continue before a decision like that is made.

adaminho

Some good news for a change.
https://twitter.com/LUFC/status/1347236336911187968

PhilipsR

But a break has to make sense. A 2 week break makes zero sense as the players can’t mingle during those 2 weeks. So the shortest break they could have is one month I’d think. A 2.5 week break where all players are tested continuously to break all chains of transmission and then 10 days back training before the first games.

adaminho

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1347279339507871745

I have to say this makes sense!

wadacrack

The rate of transmission has been as bad in America and college sports are being played. Professional sports will continue. Will help alot of people during these tough times especially young men who are susceptible to mental health problems.

daheff

niallo27 wrote: »

Call it quits now I think and which ever team is top should be champions. Its the fairest and safest thing to do.

I think there needs to be 25 rounds played and then places are on a ppg basis.

25 rounds is towards end Feb....be surprised to see it get that far...but who knows.

adaminho

I think the FA should follow their Scottish counterparts example and start banning players who breach Lockdown rules! Didn't 7 Aberdeen players receive a 7 match ban for breaking rules and Boginoli also got a ban.

~Rebel~

daheff wrote: »

I think there needs to be 25 rounds played and then places are on a ppg basis.

25 rounds is towards end Feb....be surprised to see it get that far...but who knows.

I suppose they could just set 25 as the target, and change the schedule to hit 25 by May instead of March. Gives them time for a 'circuit breaker' for a month if things get too out of hand soon.

I don't think they'll do any of this, but it mightn't be a bad idea for them to just accept sooner rather than later that they can't fulfill every fixture of every competition before June, and start figuring out what to jettison now.