There’s a learner driver running the show.

wrangler

Reggie. wrote: »

Yeah. He seems very put out by it

Sure he's going to fire the whole government or so he thinks.

gk5000

kerryjack wrote: »

Barry grew up in an Ireland that if you were somebody like a TDs son or brother the laws of the land didn't apply to you, sure he didn't even bother to get his full license. Usely things like this would disappear after a week or so but not any more. I didn't see it as a big deal myself he got caught he tried to get out of it like we all do, he did his time move on. I think he would have made a good ag minister. A good country lad.

Yep, the arrogance and entitlement grown from nepotism of the ruling class..where he "inherited" his seat from his failed brother, who had "inherited" the seat from his dead father.

Maybe u can blame the public for voting for these families, but the party selectors dont leave much choice.

Hopefully, family history, nepotism may be seen more for what it is, generating this toxic arrogance and entitlement, many steps removed from the regular ordinary decent people and their needs.

Rosita

Rosita wrote: »

Farmers must be very excited at the prospect of someone with a full driving license likely to become Minister.

Once he can drive a tractor he's fine.

I told my son I had a tractor licence. I've never driven one in all my years living in Dublin.
Missed my opportunity when you were all up blocking me going to work:)

Maybe Buford will give me a lesson on his John Deere if I call over to him

solerina

They have plugged the geographical hole from Donegal to Limerick....Dara Callery new Minister for Ag.

Welding Rod

Dara Calleary has taken the minister for Ag job now.
Should have told MM to shove it where the sun don’t shine in my opinion..

Reggie.

Welding Rod wrote: »

Dara Calleary has taken the minister for Ag job now.
Should have told MM to shove it where the sun don’t shine in my opinion..

Sounds like a keep the peace move

endainoz

Reggie. wrote: »

Sounds like a keep the peace move

So more importantly, what do we know about our new ag minister? Will he be any good?

Welding Rod

Welding Rod wrote: »

Dara Calleary has taken the minister for Ag job now.
Should have told MM to shove it where the sun don’t shine in my opinion..

He's proven he's more interested in the office and salary than the country. If he wanted to serve the country he would have taken the first job he was offered.

kerryjack

Seen him walking after M martin the day he was elected leader, smug looking head on him looks like a right lick arse. Obviously he didn't do enough lick arsing because he didn't get the gig, no pride in the man at all to take it now.

Donegalforever

endainoz wrote: »

So more importantly, what do we know about our new ag minister? Will he be any good?

Apparently he does not come from a farming background but a lot of his constituents are farmers.

Time will tell if he has the farmers interests at heart.

Gods Gift

We are ministerless again.

memorystick

Gods Gift wrote: »

We are ministerless again.

No minister is still better than Creed

endainoz

After the Shakey start from this government, I thought they wouldn't last a year. Now I don't think they'll last till Christmas.

A disgrace of a government.

farawaygrass

memorystick wrote: »

No minister is still better than Creed

Looking back he mightn’t have been the worst. Callaghy never seemed to be the man for the job in my eyes, albeit he didn’t get much of a chance

kerryjack

These ould functions are the way these big nobs do business, Arse licking and back slapping, it's how businesses is done and big jobs are handed out, some red faces around today I would say, a few years ago this would have been talked about for a few days a few apologies made a few pints in the Dail bar and all forgotten about in a few days but now heads are rolling, great day for the average joe soup.

solerina

Jackie Cahill an actual working farmer TD has been very vocal about wanting the job...bet he will be throwing his hat into the ring

endainoz

solerina wrote: »

Jackie Cahill an actual working farmer TD has been very vocal about wanting the job...bet he will be throwing his hat into the ring

Pippa Hacket would be an obvious choice seen as she's already in the department. The anti green crowd would lose their shít here though if it happened.

J.O. Farmer

solerina wrote: »

Jackie Cahill an actual working farmer TD has been very vocal about wanting the job...bet he will be throwing his hat into the ring

Geography is against him, surely they won't leave west of the Shannon without a senior minister after initially doing it and most likely this government won't see the Taoiseach rotate for a full reshuffle.

Possibly Charlie mcconalogue in Donegal if they promote a junior minister or Mark McSharry if it's a backbencher.

If storm Ellen's is followed by a Beast from the East in hell causing it to freeze over and Micheal slips on the resulting ice and bangs his head Eamon o cuiv mimight have an outside chance.

Apart from that there's very few FF TD's left in the right part of the country.

newholland mad

endainoz wrote: »

Pippa Hacket would be an obvious choice seen as she's already in the department. The anti green crowd would lose their shít here though if it happened.

Complete joke altogether. She might be an obvious choice if she was actually an elected member of the government. Are we down to that, surely theres someone available who actually got voted in ffs.

Tonynewholland

endainoz wrote: »

After the Shakey start from this government, I thought they wouldn't last a year. Now I don't think they'll last till Christmas.

A disgrace of a government.

It’s easy to complain but what’s the alternative to this government. Maybe change of leadership yes.

endainoz

newholland mad wrote: »

Complete joke altogether. She might be an obvious choice if she was actually an elected member of the government. Are we down to that, surely theres someone available who actually got voted in ffs.

There's my point proven! Though you are correct that she did not get elected, what a crazy notion that an actual farmer might get the post. Might as well give it that eejit Ryan so. Wasn't that what all the hysterical Facebook farming groups were afraid of happening?

endainoz

Tonynewholland wrote: »

It’s easy to complain but what’s the alternative to this government. Maybe change of leadership yes.

The alternative to any government is an alternative one. Seriously like, how can anyone say that this government hasn't been a complete disaster since it began going from one scandal to the next?

ganmo

endainoz wrote: »

There's my point proven! Though you are correct that she did not get elected, what a crazy notion that an actual farmer might get the post. Might as well give it that eejit Ryan so. Wasn't that what all the hysterical Facebook farming groups were afraid of happening?

The junior minister of ag is a farmer too so why not promote him?
Because that's not how politics works
And as far as a minister for the west, find me a western ff td who isn't just in the door and wasnt at that do

kerryjack

Final nail on FFs coffin

memorystick

kerryjack wrote: »

Final nail on FFs coffin

FG are delighted

BENDYBINN

kerryjack wrote: »

Final nail on FFs coffin

Why? Mm has the balls to sack ministers that are not up to the job.
That’s what we’ve always wanted.

Not a word from Leo about Phil hogan........

ganmo

ganmo wrote: »

The junior minister of ag is a farmer too so why not promote him?
Because that's not how politics works
And as far as a minister for the west, find me a western ff td who isn't just in the door and wasnt at that do

O'Cuiv (but MM hates him), McSharry, McConalogue, I'm sure there are more

Tonynewholland

endainoz wrote: »

The alternative to any government is an alternative one. Seriously like, how can anyone say that this government hasn't been a complete disaster since it began going from one scandal to the next?

Do you think there is a real alternative in the opposition benches.

endainoz

Tonynewholland wrote: »

Do you think there is a real alternative in the opposition benches.

Yes, the vote in February clearly reflected this.

ganmo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

O'Cuiv (but MM hates him), McSharry, McConalogue, I'm sure there are more

Nope that's the list

The FF website didnt even have time to get updated

ganmo

ganmo wrote: »

Nope that's the list

The FF website didnt even have time to get updated

It was a lucky guess so, been turned off and tuned out of politics a fair while.

Donegalforever

I find it strange that any politician or member of the judiciary would compromise themselves by such actions.
Under these type of circumstances apology after being found out is rather feeble.

Donegalforever

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Why? Mm has the balls to sack ministers that are not up to the job.
That’s what we’ve always wanted.

Not a word from Leo about Phil hogan........

Phil has a lot to apologise for......He wasted a fortune on a White Elephant,
(i.e. Irish Water), that continues to gulp-up an endless amount of the tax payers money.

Tonynewholland

endainoz wrote: »

Yes, the vote in February clearly reflected this.

Do you mean the party that had the big funeral up north

whelan2

Jjameson wrote: »

I wonder has Michael Martin a dose of Covid! The sweat pumping out of him on the 6 o’clock news

I wonder did he know about the golf thing was on before it happened

Donegalforever

Jjameson wrote: »

I wonder has Michael Martin a dose of Covid! The sweat pumping out of him on the 6 o’clock news

I think it was caused by pressure.
Generally speaking he is well out of his depth.
He spent too long sitting on the fence.

kerryjack

MM is not great, no conviction not prepared, TBH I don't see any one in FF that would make a good leader, just not a great bunch, hopefully someone will step up to the plate ould Charlie must be turning in his grave.

Keepgrowing

kerryjack wrote: »

MM is not great, no conviction not prepared, TBH I don't see any one in FF that would make a good leader, just not a great bunch, hopefully someone will step up to the plate ould Charlie must be turning in his grave.

Auld Charlie and Bertie the crook is the reason the shinners got a foot hold and the best can be done is to cobble together a rag tag government

Mooooo

FF as a force is gone. Older generation disenfranchised with them, younger generation never with them in the first place. FG have a spot as centre/ right no real competition there, FF would have been centre / left, with labour that but further but both have lost identity and Sinn Fein gaining ground there as the only competition on the left are the other whingers et al over there.
In for a long period of bollixing around with feck all being done at a bad time for the next few years I'd say

whelan2

Only realised there that big Phil had travelled to the event from kildare which was and still is under lockdown.

49801

whelan2 wrote: »

Only realised there that big Phil had travelled to the event from kildare which was and still is under lockdown.

Apparently did not travel from Kildare. Pre lockdown he exited the county and was elsewhere.

Some clowns the lot of them

K.G.

whatever the rights and wrongs of it, its stupid calling for phils head at the moment

whelan2

K.G. wrote: »

whatever the rights and wrongs of it, its stupid calling for phils head at the moment

It's the cheek of them to preach to others to adhere to the guidelines and then blatantly break them all themselves. I can not understand how no one had the cop on to call a halt to it. I wonder how long the even had been planned for. People after losing loved ones who couldn't say a proper good bye. Weddings cancelled and yet it's fine to go on a 2 day piss up with 80 others.

Say my name

whelan2 wrote: »

It's the cheek of them to preach to others to adhere to the guidelines and then blatantly break them all themselves. I can not understand how no one had the cop on to call a halt to it. I wonder how long the even had been planned for. People after losing loved ones who couldn't say a proper good bye. Weddings cancelled and yet it's fine to go on a 2 day piss up with 80 others.

I don't think the ambassador for Morocco would be inclined to have a drink.

silver2020

whelan2 wrote: »

Only realised there that big Phil had travelled to the event from kildare which was and still is under lockdown.

He was in Kilkenny. He was wise when he heard that there was a likely Kildare lockdown coming and went to Kilkenny from his overnight stay in hospital where he was getting some checks.

Say my name

K.G. wrote: »

whatever the rights and wrongs of it, its stupid calling for phils head at the moment

Stupid isn't it.

But the little person always focuses on the smaller picture.

Bigger picture. With the European minister for trade present, the agricultural minister and the Moroccan ambassador it was more than likely pre planned for serious business to be done to benefit the country and farming Ireland Inc.

Little person would like Richard Boyd Barrett in charge of this country. Be careful what ye wish for.

silver2020

whelan2 wrote: »

It's the cheek of them to preach to others to adhere to the guidelines and then blatantly break them all themselves. I can not understand how no one had the cop on to call a halt to it. I wonder how long the even had been planned for. People after losing loved ones who couldn't say a proper good bye. Weddings cancelled and yet it's fine to go on a 2 day piss up with 80 others.

Looks like you get your information from Fakebook or some trashy rag that ignores facts.

Yes it was a golf outing - like many golf outings that have been taking place all over the country.

The second night there was a dinner in two separated rooms with a total of 81 people. The advice changed last tuesday that larger gatherings of 50 should no longer take place, but it was advice and not a regulation. Very little publicity was given to this change and as is usual with the current government, it was confusing in the least. Restaurants can have 60-70 people if they have the space, but you can't have a group meal??? - try work that one out.

The hotel itself claimed that by having it split between 2 different and separated rooms, it conformed to regulations. Grey area, but would be hard to argue against it.

The problem was that gov members should follow the advice they are giving in order to set an example.

Nekarsulm

According to the Irish Independent, it was one room that the hotel reckoned they could put a partition up the middle off, and call it "room A" and "room B", as a dodge to allow them hold the function...

The falling aspect is when you have a Supreme Court Judge present, who apparently was involved in drafting the "lockdown" legislation 3 days earlier.

kerryjack

Don't see a problem with Phil he wasn't there the day before writing the rules and talking about them on the radio the day before. That's the problem with the ag minister he was on radio that morning talking about new regs and young people and house parties, talking out 2 sides of his gob.

BENDYBINN

kerryjack wrote: »

Don't see a problem with Phil he wasn't there the day before writing the rules and talking about them on the radio the day before. That's the problem with the ag minister he was on radio that morning talking about new regs and young people and house parties, talking out 2 sides of his gob.

Exactly, Phil didn’t make the rules...why should he obey them.............
Are you for real?