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Do you keep a weapon by your bed?

  • 07-07-2020 2:44pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭


    Home security is a big topic. I wonder how many people have something by their bed in case they hear a noise in the night? If not, what's your plan?

    I have a hurl by the bed. But the wife makes me clean it after pucking around, and even then it has to rest on a few sheets of kitchen paper. A friend of mine keeps a screwdriver in his bedside locker. I think my brother has half a snooker que as his. I don't know of any women which have something ready, which is concerning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Kamu


    Only the wife.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    I keep my weapon in my bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    Have a weapon sleeping next to me if that counts!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    I sleep on my stomach....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,519 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I have a PTRS-41 anti-tank rifle. You never know what the criminals will come at you with.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Home security is a big topic. I wonder how many people have something by their bed in case they hear a noise in the night? If not, what's your plan?

    I have a hurl by the bed. But the wife makes me clean it after pucking around, and even then it has to rest on a few sheets of kitchen paper. A friend of mine keeps a screwdriver in his bedside locker. I think my brother has half a snooker que as his. I don't know of any women which have something ready, which is concerning.

    You've already got a great defence, fcuk all worth stealing in Mayo. Can't fit the road to Dublin in the back of a pick up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭king_of_mayo


    Kamu wrote: »
    Only the wife.

    Having more than one person definitely helps. One can barricade the door while the other phones 999. But what if you need to check it out yourself, surely there's something at hand that you could use? I'd consider it irresponsible not to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭SuperSean11


    Enjoy prison guys Voluntary manslaughter right there. Irish laws great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Kamu


    Having more than one person definitely helps. One can barricade the door while the other phones 999. But what if you need to check it out yourself, surely there's something at hand that you could use? I'd consider it irresponsible not to.

    Serious answer, I've a lamp and guitars beside my bed that I can use in an emergency.

    The guitar specifically, while not the most balanced or standard shape, would do a fair amount of damage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,549 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Baseball bat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I collect knives so there happens to be a Cold Steel Gurkha Kukri beside the bed at the moment. It's not a weapon though, it's a curio.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,404 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    5 iron. It’s my go to club.


  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's a sad state of affairs when you can't defend yourself in your own home. Should be allowed to go postal on any mofo that breaks in, with no repercussions. Maybe just a few questions to establish that it was an unwelcome intruder and not someone that was invited over etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    I do but I let her sleep in the bed, the oul bag for life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,549 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Enjoy prison guys Voluntary manslaughter right there. Irish laws great

    I'm pretty sure you're allowed to use reasonable force to defend yourself if an intruder enters your bedroom. It was changed a few years ago.

    Anyway, I'd rather do time for manslaughter than just lie there passively while I'm raped and/or murdered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Feisar


    It's a sad state of affairs when you can't defend yourself in your own home. Should be allowed to go postal on any mofo that breaks in, with no repercussions. Maybe just a few questions to establish that it was an unwelcome intruder and not someone that was invited over etc..

    One can to a degree, didn't they change the laws a few years ago? I remember something in the news about everyone'd home being their castle or some such. However one cannot have something to hand solely for the purpose being used as a weapon. Anyway, it's a hard heart that kills, not the tool.

    Edit - beaten to it punch.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Enjoy prison guys Voluntary manslaughter right there. Irish laws great

    Anyone got any ideas on what one could use; say an object that could reasonably expected to be in one's bedroom that would satisfy for the purpose of defending oneself. It would have to be effective and not considered a weapon lest one gets fvcked on a 'voluntary manslaughter' rap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Enjoy prison guys Voluntary manslaughter right there. Irish laws great

    Is it not some form of murder if one has a weapon on hand? I thought it added premeditation into the fray?

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Kamu


    Anyone got any ideas on what one could use; say an object that could reasonably expected to be in one's bedroom that would satisfy for the purpose of defending oneself. It would have to be effective and not considered a weapon lest one gets fvcked on a 'voluntary manslaughter' rap.

    If the person is still alive, then no manslaughter charge. So, just make sure you knock them da F out but still breathing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,549 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Anyone got any ideas on what one could use; say an object that could reasonably expected to be in one's bedroom that would satisfy for the purpose of defending oneself. It would have to be effective and not considered a weapon lest one gets fvcked on a 'voluntary manslaughter' rap.

    You could have a shelf that you were going to hang the very next day, drill, screwdriver, hammer etc. all just sitting there for that very purpose.

    You could be a baseball fan with a bat and ball artistically arranged on your bedside table.

    You could be planning to take up golf and have your very first club in storage under the bed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Anyone got any ideas on what one could use; say an object that could reasonably expected to be in one's bedroom that would satisfy for the purpose of defending oneself. It would have to be effective and not considered a weapon lest one gets fvcked on a 'voluntary manslaughter' rap.

    Dildo FTW.


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/acquittal-does-not-sanction-homeowners-to-kill-burglars-1.3427547

    "Case is first of its kind since new laws were brought in after Nally controversy in 2004"

    "the legal position was clarified somewhat in January 2012, with the enactment of the Criminal Law (Defence and the Dwelling) Act 2011. It allows for reasonable force by people who believe they need to use it to protect those in dwellings from assault, to protect property, to prevent a crime or to make an arrest. The law no longer requires a homeowner to retreat from a burglar, and extends to lands immediately around a dwelling. It is precisely those provisions Martin Keenan depended on in his defence while on trial for the murder of Wesley Mooney in June 2016.

    Mr Keenan claimed the deceased had attacked him just outside the caravan. And he had picked up the nearest object to him and hit him with it. That object was one side of a garden shears. The dead man was stabbed twice; one wound so large it pierced both lungs and proved fatal.

    Legal sources told The Irish Times that, in acquitting Mr Keenan the jury had accepted as true his statement he feared for his safety and lashed out at Mooney in self defence. The jury, said the sources, also believed Mr Keenan’s fears were objective and grounded in reality.

    “The verdict means the jury believe he was in real fear. And [the jury accepted] any reasonable person would have felt the same fear had they been in that situation,” said one source. “It is a very tall order to get any jury to accept both of those features. And somebody could only be acquitted if the jury accepts both. That won’t happen too often.”


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    My Weiner is my wespon


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭horgan_p


    seems to be a few people here looking to unleash their inner Reservoir Dog on someone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    I have a hurley close by in the room. Hopefully will never have to use it on someone but if somebody does try to break in I'll certainly be ready and waitng so to speak..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Ring are making these now, few hundert on Amazon. Great yoke:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,647 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I carry my two guns with me everywhere I go *kisses arms*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I don't know of any women which have something ready, which is concerning.

    I knew a lady who had a baton type weapon in her bedside locker, was coated in rubber though rather than being metal or wood.
    Seemed a strange choice of material but she didn't seem comfortable talking about it when I brought it up so I'm not sure what the logic was.

    Not even sure why she has it as when I asked her did she ever have to use it, she told me to fcuk off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,549 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I knew a lady who had a baton type weapon in her bedside locker, was coated in rubber though rather than being metal or wood.
    Seemed a strange choice of material but she didn't seem comfortable talking about it when I brought it up so I'm not sure what the logic was.

    Not even sure why she has it as when I asked her did she ever have to use it, she told me to fcuk off.

    It's a pity she didn't tell you to buzz off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,258 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    my elderly parents keep a few golf clubs in various rooms upstairs. sad really that they have to do that. sign of the times unfortunately, but who knows when/where scum will strike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭unhappys10


    Got a baseball bat in America on a childhood holiday
    Keep it in the corner of the room.
    God help the cnut that comes into the house, or God help me if they get it off me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,258 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    I carry my two guns with me everywhere I go *kisses arms*

    dan and ger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I had a baseball bat at the top of the stairs for years. Had two incidents which might have saw it being considered, 1, a joyrider crashed in to my car outside my house and him and his passenger abandoned the car and ran off and 2, a drunk person banging on the door aggressively looking for a house party after they had been given my address. On both occasions I went and investigated before even thinking about the bat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭minikin


    Have reached brown pants status in the ancient art of oonagi... bring it.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My Dad used to keep a shotgun in his room (locked in a gun cabinet and secure if you're a Guard asking) and the house was burgled in the middle of the night, this was back around 2004. It was just himself and Mum in the house, but the burglers must have seen him come out on the landing because one of them hopped out the window in the back of the sitting-room, presuming he was on the ground floor -- the house drops at the back and he fell about 3 meters, breaking a leg. The other guy made his getaway and was caught a week later. Looking back now it's funny, but I worry what would have happened (a) if he didn't have a gun in the house or (b) if they'd had a gun, and stood their ground. It's just not worth it, there was nothing in the house only bills, the wrong kind.

    Id never keep a gun in my house, well I live in Dublin, so wouldn't have a valid reason anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Feisar


    My Weiner is my wespon

    A weapon of ass destruction?

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    Ive a hurl incase anyone ever fancies a puck around


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm



    Id never keep a gun in my house, well I live in Dublin, so wouldn't have a valid reason anyway.

    Your location has nothing to do with having a valid reason, or not.
    Clay shooting, target shooting, membership of a club, permission to shoot on specified farmland etc, etc,
    All valid reasons to have a firearm, regardless of where you live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭dubbrin


    Feisar wrote: »
    I collect knives so there happens to be a Cold Steel Gurkha Kukri beside the bed at the moment. It's not a weapon though, it's a curio.

    Funny that, I have one in my sock drawer beside the bed too. Baseball bat upstairs, but I leave it in the cupboard. "Don't want to get into a situation where I'm going to be swinging it" is what I've told myself a few times. Oddly never considered the kukri in that way...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,833 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I'm pretty sure you're allowed to use reasonable force to defend yourself if an intruder enters your bedroom. It was changed a few years ago.

    Anyway, I'd rather do time for manslaughter than just lie there passively while I'm raped and/or murdered.

    So they have to get as far as your bedroom before you can lay a glove on them ? I heard that before, always wondered if it was true. You should be cowering under the sheets until you hear the footsteps up the stairs ?

    Luckily the house has never been broken into, have one of the best alarm systems you can buy too, but despite never having that bad experience I have a nine iron under my bed, a baseball bat in the press and I’m not a morning person, at all.

    That said those sporting goods were legitimately purchased with the intention of using in both aforementioned participation sports of which I have been photographed participating in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭lickalot


    Not appropriate, even if lyrics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,549 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Strumms wrote: »
    So they have to get as far as your bedroom before you can lay a glove on them ? I heard that before, always wondered if it was true. You should be cowering under the sheets until you hear the footsteps up the stairs ?

    Luckily the house has never been broken into, have one of the best alarm systems you can buy too, but despite never having that bad experience I have a nine iron under my bed, a baseball bat in the press and I’m not a morning person, at all.

    That said those sporting goods were legitimately purchased with the intention of using in both aforementioned participation sports of which I have been photographed participating in.
    There's a link on a previous page, it's been updated to an intruder anywhere in your home or grounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    As above, not appropriate


  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've often wondered about the efficacy of baseball bats in an intruder situation. How much time would you have to reach for it if surprised, or indeed how much room would you have to swing it if already in hand? Bedrooms/any rooms really in a house aren't exactly wide open spaces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I've often wondered about the efficacy of baseball bats in an intruder situation. How much time would you have to reach for it if surprised, or indeed how much room would you have to swing it if already in hand? Bedrooms/any rooms really in a house aren't exactly wide open spaces.

    A pair of tonfa is much better. Word to the wise, is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    I've often wondered about the efficacy of baseball bats in an intruder situation. How much time would you have to reach for it if surprised, or indeed how much room would you have to swing it if already in hand? Bedrooms/any rooms really in a house aren't exactly wide open spaces.

    Rounders bat.
    Lot easier used in a hall, stairs or bedroom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭dubbrin


    I've often wondered about the efficacy of baseball bats in an intruder situation. How much time would you have to reach for it if surprised, or indeed how much room would you have to swing it if already in hand? Bedrooms/any rooms really in a house aren't exactly wide open spaces.

    A swift up down choppy action will see you through a lot of tight spots. The romantic home run swing at high level just as they turn around is probably way off the mark.

    Saying that, this is all assuming you're up and aware that something is happening and have the time to react as you say. The majority of situations probably don't present much opportunity. I've been lucky, don't know or hope not to find out


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭dennyire


    Serious answer
    Alarm on in the stay mode so hopefully will go off if someone breaks in.
    Pitching wedge golf club beside bedside locker just in case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    I've a baseball bat under the bed too - one that I brought home from the States nearly 30 years ago.

    Only time I've ever picked it up in "intruder alert" circumstances was a few years ago when my wife woke me in the middle of the night to say she was sure she'd heard noises downstairs. As I got to the top of the stairs, clad only in my boxer shorts, I remembered hearing somewhere that it's a good idea to confront an intruder in the nip, because then you'll introduce a real element of surprise to proceedings. Also, they're less likely to attack you, out of fear they might grab a handful of something.........let's say "undesirable".

    So, I whipped off the shorts and proceeded downstairs as nature intended. Didn't find anybody or anything there. Was almost disappointed, as on one level, would have liked to have seen the reaction......


  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jimgoose wrote: »
    A pair of tonfa is much better. Word to the wise, is all.

    :pac: Must research


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