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Ryobi ONE+ tools

  • 07-07-2020 4:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭


    I bought a Ryobi cordless strimmer recently, about €120. It's working very well but one of the reasons I bought it was the "ONE" technology ie their other tools take the same battery. You only need 1 x charger + 2-3 spare batteries

    Well you do, but on pricing the spare batteries they come in around €50-75 apiece!

    At that price you're almost cheaper buying a whole new drill or whatever inc a battery + charger (even though you don't need either)

    Seems a total waste and my idea of having a few spare batteries would end up costing a lot. Anyone else notice this or see any way of getting the batteries cheaper?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    They batteries are great btw and last years.


    Note you can by Ryobi Style batteries on amazon for half the price that fit the ONE system


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    listermint wrote: »
    They batteries are great btw and last years.


    Note you can by Ryobi Style batteries on amazon for half the price that fit the ONE system

    those cheap knock offs are terrible and dangerous. for the sake of 25 euro you would be better off getting a genuine one

    check out all the tool shops in the uk . some have great sales on bateries. try ffx, powertool mate, d and m, lawsons, its, data, powertool world , etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    those cheap knock offs are terrible and dangerous. for the sake of 25 euro you would be better off getting a genuine one

    check out all the tool shops in the uk . some have great sales on bateries. try ffx, powertool mate, d and m, lawsons, its, data, powertool world , etc

    You cant sell dangerous stuff in the EU, so thats a bit unfair.

    But yes they may not be as good as the OEM ones in terms of power and length of time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Chelon


    I'll check those thanks, but I'm still mystified how a drill+charger+ battery can sell for €80 but the battery itself is about €50 (B&Q)

    I think it's a bit like printers the printer is cheap but wait until you need more ink...

    Anyway very disappointed with Ryobi if this is the case, I'm trying to save the planet by not buying extra chargers and tools I don't need lol

    They do sell "tool only" versions, I presume these don't include a charger or battery, seems pointless when most folks would want at least one extra battery they can charge while you're using the tool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    listermint wrote: »
    You cant sell dangerous stuff in the EU, so thats a bit unfair.

    But yes they may not be as good as the OEM ones in terms of power and length of time.
    i have seen far too many pics on line and facebook groups of knock off bateries going on fire to ever think about getting any.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Chelon


    This is UK prices the drill + charger + 2 x batteries is £90

    https://www.diy.com/departments/ryobi-one-cordless-1-3a-18v-brushed-percussion-drill-2-batteries-r18pd3-213s/4892210152725_BQ.prd

    I don't really need a drill but at that price...


  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Chelon


    Does anyone know the difference between 1.2 and 2.0 Ah batteries?

    Does the bigger one deliver more torque or just run for longer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭massy086


    Chelon wrote: »
    Does anyone know the difference between 1.2 and 2.0 Ah batteries?

    Does the bigger one deliver more torque or just run for longer?
    I have a good few ryobi tools and I use the 2.5amp batteries for light tools but you want 4amp for anything heavy like a sds drill or angle grinder


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Tockman


    This video(second half) gives a good insight into the different batteries

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVMwp4Hm7OQ&ab_channel=CharlieDIYte


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    its just how long it lasts.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Chelon


    Tockman wrote: »
    This video(second half) gives a good insight into the different batteries

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVMwp4Hm7OQ&ab_channel=CharlieDIYte

    Very interesting - so a difference of opinion on here, but looks like more Ah does indeed = more power


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭massy086


    Chelon wrote: »
    Very interesting - so a difference of opinion on here, but looks like more Ah does indeed = more power
    What size battery came with the strimer you bought


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    I have a bunch of ryobi one kit from back when they were blue before the dayglow green and lots of new gear. The old batteries are doing fine still and perfect for the odd ikea build . The strimmer really needs at least 4ah to be useful, the one that came with mine was 2.5ah and its not fit for much work. Any non ryobi generic battery I tried has not lasted and use really cheap cells that are far below the stated capacity.

    I also have hedge trimmers, lights, fans, impact drivers and a tyre inflator. Ryobi have always been committed to the battery fitting compared to other brands which extends the life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    Chelon wrote: »
    Very interesting - so a difference of opinion on here, but looks like more Ah does indeed = more power

    Its true, for example the circular saw only works from 4ah but really needs 5. When building the kids play area the impact driver could only drive the screws fully home using 4ah. 2.5ah would only go halfway in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    i have seen far too many pics on line and facebook groups of knock off bateries going on fire to ever think about getting any.

    I've little respect for anyone who takes their information from anything they've seen on Facebook.


    You really need to adjust your sources dramatically.


    Its like a daily mail outrage click festival.. its sole purpose is to get your arse to click on fake rubbish videos to get you interested or outraged. Complete disinformation. I'd suggest deleting it but you might take offence to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    listermint wrote: »
    I've little respect for anyone who takes their information from anything they've seen on Facebook.


    You really need to adjust your sources dramatically.


    Its like a daily mail outrage click festival.. its sole purpose is to get your arse to click on fake rubbish videos to get you interested or outraged. Complete disinformation. I'd suggest deleting it but you might take offence to that.

    im not talking about crap posted by facebook. thats mostly rubbish or click bate

    im a member of quite a few tool and woodworking groups. i dont see why (or how) normal trademen would post pics of their tools on fire or having been on fire. why would they . i used to regularly see people complainging that the fake bateries failed and stopped working


  • Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've a decent amount of the one+ stuff but would consider myself a heavy DIY user.
    I've had 3 tools stop working on me in a year.
    The oscillating multitool and the SDS drill (twice).
    Both times they were replaced/repaired but that's no good when your half way through a job.
    I still wouldn't write them off as absolute dirt,they are cheap and mostly get the job done.
    I was probably going a bit hard on the SDS drills to be honest.

    The drill and impact driver cant be faulted,also the area worklight is fantastic.

    I have decided to get away from them now and bought into the makita 18v one battery system.
    Time will tell!


  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Chelon


    massy086 wrote: »
    What size battery came with the strimer you bought

    I'll check later when I get home. I asked a mate who is a very knowledgeable engineer and he said more voltage only delivers longer life not more power, which makes sense to me, unless there are other factors at play?

    Going back to my original point it was more the pricing I was having a gripe at, it seems to be a marketing thing but at those prices I feel they've shot them selves in the foot!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭SemperFidelis


    The voltage doesn't change between batteries, 18v for them all. Its the electrical charge that changes between them. A larger Ah battery can deliver more power as they usually have a higher max discharge rate.

    I have a few of these tools and find the 4Ah battery gives a bit more torque but not a huge difference. The 2Ah battery works fine on circular saw and angle grinder but you can be more forceful with the 4ah battery.

    You can get deals on tools with batteries or if you keep an eye on argos they discount the 4ah and 5ah batteries all the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Chelon


    massy086 wrote: »
    What size battery came with the strimer you bought

    Just checked it's a 1.3Ah - I get about an hour out of it which isn't too bad - but for a drill etc I'd want max torque, compared to a strimmer


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭cheif kaiser


    listermint wrote: »
    You cant sell dangerous stuff in the EU, so thats a bit unfair.

    But yes they may not be as good as the OEM ones in terms of power and length of time.


    Have to completely disagree with you here. Many Chinese sellers ship their dodgy knock off gear to a EU warehouse and they are frequently listed on Amazon, Ebay, etc, as being UK stock, when in fact they not.

    Don't be fooled by the CE mark either. The Chinese CE (Chinese Export) mark is almost a duplicate.


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