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PV Feed In Tariff
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and the ESB/provider will take 100% of the excess and sell it on but only pay you for 30%
The answer to that is dont export it in the first place or size your array accordingly!
Personally, I wouldnt be pleased if I was exporting more than 30% of what I generated.... you might do that on a particular day but not as an average (which is the key point).0 -
and the ESB/provider will take 100% of the excess and sell it on but only pay you for 30%
The consultation clears states every one will be paid a standard rate (most likely wholesale prices) so this idea that the ESB takes 100% of excess is wrong. (thats what they do now
and pay you nothing )
https://www.gov.ie/en/consultation/0ada2-public-consultation-on-a-micro-generation-support-scheme-mss-in-ireland/
The premium FIT only comes in effect with new installs and has this 30% limit but you would get both standard payment and the premium.0 -
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the_amazing_raisin wrote: »As soon as someone tells Leo it'll be out
I'm surprised they bother doing press releases anymore
He will gladly take the credit for it, plumbers love him.0 -
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I really want to install a PV to the max at my house built post the current cutoff for the SEAI grants but I keep putting it off as I fear that
1) they might shift the years the SEAI grants area allowed thus allowing me to get some kinda grant coverage
2) this micro generation tariff will be somehow linked to a system that was installed as part of the SEAI grant
Am I just over thinking this?
You're overthinking it a bit I would say
So to your first point, my guess is that you're in a house built after 2012 and and able to get the PV grant? I've emailed the SEAI and Department of Environment before about this and there doesn't seem to be any plans to change it.
Basically the focus is on bringing older houses to a better BER rating, not further improve efficient homes
To the second point, the feed-in tariff seems to be taking the form of 2 rates
The CEG tariff which is a basic minimum export tariff that all energy providers must offer to customers. It'll be determined by the market rates and open to everybody. You'll need to complete a microgenerator application with the ESB (form NC-6 I think?) and there'll be limits around how much you can export
The CEP tariff will be a premium on top of the CEG and is probably going to replace the current grants
I don't think the CEG tariff will require you to have availed of any SEAI grants, as long as you're properly connected to the grid then it should be fine
You will probably need a smart meter for all of this which unfortunately brings more expensive rates
Personally my view is that any export tariff is a bonus and you need to focus on self consumption when looking for ways to make the system affordable.
If your import rate is 15c/kWh and export rate is 5c/kWh, then every kWh you export which you could have used is a net loss of 10c"The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost
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That all makes complete sense and yes, I'm over thinking itthe_amazing_raisin wrote: »You're overthinking it a bit I would say
So to your first point, my guess is that you're in a house built after 2012 and aren't able to get the PV grant? I've emailed the SEAI and Department of Environment before about this and there doesn't seem to be any plans to change it.
Basically the focus is on bringing older houses to a better BER rating, not further improve efficient homes
To the second point, the feed-in tariff seems to be taking the form of 2 rates
The CEG tariff which is a basic minimum export tariff that all energy providers must offer to customers. It'll be determined by the market rates and open to everybody. You'll need to complete a microgenerator application with the ESB (form NC-6 I think?) and there'll be limits around how much you can export
The CEP tariff will be a premium on top of the CEG and is probably going to replace the current grants
I don't think the CEG tariff will require you to have availed of any SEAI grants, as long as you're properly connected to the grid then it should be fine
You will probably need a smart meter for all of this which unfortunately brings more expensive rates
Personally my view is that any export tariff is a bonus and you need to focus on self consumption when looking for ways to make the system affordable.
If your import rate is 15c/kWh and export rate is 5c/kWh, then every kWh you export which you could have used is a net loss of 10c
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That all makes complete sense and yes, I'm over thinking it
If you're debating whether to pull the trigger or not, then hopefully we'll have answers about the export tariff in the next few months.
So waiting a short while isn't necessarily a bad idea, especially given the current general shortages of just about everything "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost
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the_amazing_raisin wrote: »So waiting a short while isn't necessarily a bad idea, especially given the current general shortages of just about everything
There are no shortages of solar PV panels, inverters and mounting parts. Prices have gone up a bit though as it now costs more than double what it cost a few years ago to ship a container from China to here0 -
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