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idc

According to ESBN the following types of meters will start to upgraded to smart from autumn 2023 Smart Meter Upgrade FAQs (esbnetworks.ie)

From autumn 2023, we will begin exchanging three new meter types, these include:

* day-night meters which have two registers to separately record the electricity you use during day and night.

* replacing standard 3 phase 24-hour electricity meters which are used in larger installations, namely industrial and commercial settings, large farms and domestic premises. (They can be identified by the presence of 3 main fuses instead of one fuse in single phase installations). 

* replacing the meters for customers who no longer use their Night Storage Heating meters with a smart meter

SD_DRACULA

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120652801#Comment_120652801

I wonder if you get one of the smart "d/n" meters can you switch between d/n tariffs and smart ones at will or they will doing the same idiotic thing where if you go smart tariff you can't go back to 24hr etc

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120652995#Comment_120652995

It's both. You wont be allowed on a legacy MCC once you go to MCC12/16 smart tariffs. The new meters (RM107) can do MCC02, MCCC12 and MCC16 but not the legacy standard 24hr tariff MCC01. The smart meters currently being fitted (RM106) can do MCC01, MCC12 and MCC16 but not the legacy day night tariff MCC02. There will be no interchanging backwards from smart/SST to not smart MCCs allowed. The intention I assume is to "sunset" the legacy tariffs in a few years. Or organically, by making them gradually more and more expensive. My options now are 2.5X the previous pricing.

The new RM107s allow you to stay on MCC02 but they give actual exports vs deemed exports - so there's an advantage for the network operator to get you to fit them. To be honest if I keep my MCC02 I'm not too bothered by having a smart meter. The issue is, once these MCC02 capable RM107 meters come in, the deemed fit will be stopped - like they did for MCC01

Mr Q

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120651765#Comment_120651765

How much solar did you install? Must have been a large amount to average almost 43kWh exported daily over the past week.

HotSwap

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120653017#Comment_120653017

What if I already had a 24 hour non activated smart meter and sign up to a day / night tariff? Will they take out my smart meter and install the other type of smart meter?

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120654828#Comment_120654828

Wouldn't surprise me if they did 😂

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120654828#Comment_120654828

Yes as the two are mutually exclusive, RM106 smart meters and RM107 smart meters.

Ketron

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120654596#Comment_120654596

I had 9.4kWp installed (22 x 430W panels), basically as much as I could get on a 6kW inverter. Good news that the RM107 smart meters will support D/N tariffs and hopefully metered exports.

aleesi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120616096#Comment_120616096

Sorry to bother again, the switch was done last night (your feedback was the little nudge I needed). Are you able to see actual export in the pinergy app? Still getting familiar with their app, can't seem to find it anywhere

irishchris

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120660680#Comment_120660680

No supplier unfortunately shows export in their app. Pinergy shows import each day for the previous day. I track it in home assistant but at end of every month you receive statement with import and export amounts and payment. You should see the bill amount in the account page of app from tomorrow for may with the actual statement accessible from around the 14th of each month

Pinergy finally paid out my balance of 1300 yesterday into my bank account too so good to see actual return in cash as opposed to credit.

aleesi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120661054#Comment_120661054

Thanks !, I see yesterday's consumption already in the mobile app. Re/ your credit payments, that's really handy. I don't expect much CR at the end of the year as I kind of compensate winter deficit with summer surplus (which is good enough and within my target / expectations), but we'll see!

Cheers!

buzz11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120652801#Comment_120652801

Do all day/night meters have two registers?

Also regarding "replacing meters for customers who no longer use their night storage heating meters"

how do they know that night storage heaters are not being used? is it as simple as looking at the volume of day night or is there magic trickery that tells them its a storage heater v's any other type of night usage

Jonathan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120661252#Comment_120661252

NSH had their own MCC (MCC03), and a separate meter.

Edit: more info here https://rmdservice.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/MCR1226-MCC03-Meter-Exchanges.pdf

yankinlk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120507011#Comment_120507011

Ei screwing me over. They transferred me and first bill no cashback. I hate the wild west that is the electric market in Ireland. I will have to chase the money im owed.

con747

Flogas have a new offer out https://www.flogas.ie/affinity-page/aryzta/dual-fuel/aryzta-exclusive-fixed-dual-fuel-1-yr.html

Waterpower.ie have one as well but you need to contact them to get the rate, about 24c I think. Discussion on them here https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058235650/switching-electric-gas-providers#latest If any use to anyone here.

snor

that flogas plan looks good. currently with EI smart boost. Flogas smart plan have better day rates, longer cheaper night rates, lower standing charge and better FIT. Wonder will they all start dropping charges in the next few weeks!

kabakuyu

Just got paid from Energia for FIT, ongoing battle since Jan,received princely sum of 96E😀 for deemed export since August (536 units)paid on a 2.5kw inverter, better than a kick in the a%^&.

con747

For anyone who was looking at the Waterpower offer but didn't take it because it was rumoured they didn't pay FIT the below is a response someone got via online chat with management. Double check to be safe though. Not sure how good a deal it is with those rates though.

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120687029#Comment_120687029

To be fair to them, They have been the most transparent, FIT should fall if wholesale rates fall, and wholesale rates have been falling since Jan.

Its as close as any supplier here has got to the agile tariffs in other countries.

con747

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120688011#Comment_120688011

The only issue with them is you have to ring to get todays rates off them. The online rate is much higher so you need to do your homework between the rates, standing charge and FIT to not get caught on the wrong plan. I'm not sure if the .24c rate is still on offer. It's debateable when the suppliers will drop rates for domestic, some analysts are saying it won't be until after Autumn which I hope is wrong.

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120688057#Comment_120688057

I dare say they still are quite small, and with such a variable rate (ie every month, it changes) I dare say you dont know your rate until you actually get the bill!

Also unless they build some sort of automated rate thing for the website, it will never be correct.

yankinlk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120664434#Comment_120664434

I had to ring and speak to the "loyalty team" to get the 100 euro credit i was offered when i switched/renewed with EI. Annoying.

They also asked if i wanted a Smart Meter which i declined. They didnt say anything about a new smart meter with Day/Night Rates. Hopefully this decline doesnt stop my FIT payment :P

con747

I noticed a lot of people on another platform saying SSE have made a mess of payments due this month and are saying it will be at least July before due FIT is paid.

JayBee66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120689577#Comment_120689577

🙄

I hadn't looked at our account this month. Now, I don't want to.

Looks like I'll be back on Twitter, the only way you can contact them to make a complaint.

the_amazing_raisin

So Flogas seem to have an interesting (stupid) way or doing the FIT payments. You get the FIT in a separate bill every two months on the same day as the regular bill

I suppose on the plus side it makes it easier to see the amount of the FIT payments

On the flip side, I got my first bill today for €27 and no sign yet of a FIT bill

It's possible they meant the day the bill is paid which is the 21st, so I might be waiting a bit longer

If it comes out as I've calculated I'll be getting around €28 in FIT which means last month was a net profit for me 😁

super_dad

I have a new Solar pv install up and running two weeks. Got email today saying ESB had received my NC6 and updated their records. Just back in from checking my ESB smart meter and I exported 283 units off my 4.1 kwp system in past 2 weeks. Do I get paid FIT for these units or does the FIT only start from today? Anyone past experience of this? I’m with Electric Ireland.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120692604#Comment_120692604

You'll be paid from the date the NC6 was received, anything before that goes to the grid for free I'm afraid

super_dad

Thanks. The NC6 was received by ESB one week prior to install but it took two weeks and 4 phone calls to get them to update their side and reply. Here’s hoping payment is correctly applied !🤞

JayBee66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120692684#Comment_120692684

Installer sending NC6 to ESB - easy

ESB sending your feed-in data to your electricity supplier - piece of cake

Getting FIT from your electricity supplier - like blood from a stone

HotSwap

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120693225#Comment_120693225

If you going to smart plan make sure you choose monthly billing and set it so that each billing period starts on the 1st of each month.

Ive done this with electric Ireland and it’s been very good.

It seems that EI are atcually doing it well.