Homeless mother forced to sleep in car

Foweva Awone

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Wow, the level of compassion in this thread. Although, you’d hardly expect anything less.

Even if this was a contrived “stunt”, it seems like it was the last resort for this mother. Not sure how many of you would be ok with moving over 50km from where all your family, and “support”, is.

Having to live in a car with 5 kids is an absolute disgrace and I can’t imagine how difficult it has been. Hopefully the council will “cop on” and find somewhere suitable for this woman and her family soon.

Until then, they should all be “put up” in a hotel.

I've plenty of compassion and empathy for homeless families. I've been homeless. I've lived in homeless hostels, and when I got a chance to rent an apartment through HAP, I grabbed at it with both hands, location was irrelevant.

I live on the opposite side of the country to my parents and other family, despite having severe mental health difficulties that mean I could really use their support. This is so that I can live close to my young son. As an adult, you make choices for the good of you and your children ... it's part of being a grown-up ... being close to extended family is a luxury, NOT a necessity.

This woman is trying to manipulate the system. She does not deserve our sympathy.

Thoie

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Wow, the level of compassion in this thread. Although, you’d hardly expect anything less.

Even if this was a contrived “stunt”, it seems like it was the last resort for this mother. Not sure how many of you would be ok with moving over 50km from where all your family, and “support”, is.

Having to live in a car with 5 kids is an absolute disgrace and I can’t imagine how difficult it has been. Hopefully the council will “cop on” and find somewhere suitable for this woman and her family soon.

Until then, they should all be “put up” in a hotel.

You do realise people have to live away from their families and social/support circles all the time? I couldn't find a job near my family, so had to move over 200km away where I knew no-one. Another family member had to move abroad. A friend works abroad 3+ months a year to keep his wife and kids in their house here in Ireland. I could go on.

She does not have to live in a car with 5 kids. She could live in the house she was offered. She has chosen the car instead, to the detriment of her children.

mikemac2

mikemac2 wrote: »

Someone should tell her there are only 2 Sinn Fein councillors and 0 of those socialist parties councillors out of 40 in Tipperary. Well maybe 1

Someone will back her but this isn't Dublin West.

Paul Murphy is RISEing to her defence.

weldoninhio

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Wow, the level of compassion in this thread. Although, you’d hardly expect anything less.

Even if this was a contrived “stunt”, it seems like it was the last resort for this mother. Not sure how many of you would be ok with moving over 50km from where all your family, and “support”, is.

Having to live in a car with 5 kids is an absolute disgrace and I can’t imagine how difficult it has been. Hopefully the council will “cop on” and find somewhere suitable for this woman and her family soon.

Until then, they should all be “put up” in a hotel.

She'd no issue living 756kms from them when she was in London.

It’s a bit of a contradiction. A traveller refusing to travel.

Grab All Association

Pmsl at this

R.I.P Ronnie Drew

freshpopcorn

mick087 wrote: »

All what you said is me to poor up bringing over crowded house yep me to

Yes i had access to an education system but was it fair was it equal not on your life.
The poverty i seen growing up was not good and in the year 2020 to say that people are now worse of than they was 40 years ago is a shambles.


We don't all have the same shot at education that's is not true. The system is stacked in favour of the rich and powerful its is not an equal playing filed

I’m Im just basing it on my personal experience and I wouldn’t agree with you.
Out of all the people I know out of social housing, council housing, poorer families, etc.
The kids generally got on fine in education and went into third level of they were able for it.
There was access to grants, etc.
Those who didn’t generally had parents who just wanted out of education as soon as possible for there reasons. I don’t buy this only the rich have access to education for a second.

Truthvader

Limpy wrote: »

I'd go with "Traveller asks wife to pretend she is single and homeless to get free house", newspaper believes her.

Sloppy reporting there my friend. She is already offered a free house.

Plus note all the anti traveller emphasis here but to be fair the traveller aspect is irrelevant. Plenty of "we're entitled to" people from all races, sectors nationalities and ethnicities

mick087

Shefwedfan wrote: »

She can’t look after them, take them off her, she is selfish waster. Doesn’t deserve to have kids

Ok if that your view your quite entitled to it.

Grab All Association

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Every waster in Ireland is in arrears in council houses. They get rent relief which instead of paying the rent they spend. Then don’t pay the rent

The rent should be taken at source so the waster doesn’t get it

I believe it’s now mandatory they sign up to the household budgeting scheme by An Post if receiving a welfare payment. The rent is automatically deducted from the social welfare payment. Quite a lot of arrears would be Due to social welfare suspensions for failing to sign on or sanctions etc

mick087

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

she is not being criticised because she needs help. she is being criticised because she has refused help and decided to sleep in her car with her kids.

Sometimes in life drastic action needs to be taken.
I would say she was making a statement about her situation

I would like to know more about the situation before id pass judgement.

EmmetSpiceland

You’d have to wonder if there would be this level of “backlash” if this woman, and her family, were not part of the travelling community.

Or, perhaps, if it were a father from a “settled” background

This, default, anti-traveller “stance” is rife throughout rural Ireland and some of you lot seem to revel in it.

mick087

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

asked for help, offered help, refused offered help, cries that the help offered isn't exactly what she wanted.

I think that is a better summary of what happened.

Yes maybe this is correct maybe not.
But don't pass judgement with so little information non of us know waht help we might need in the future.

Foweva Awone

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

You’d have to wonder if there would be this level of “backlash” if this woman, and her family, were not part of the travelling community.

Or, perhaps, if it were a father from a “settled” background

This, default, anti-traveller “stance” is rife throughout rural Ireland and some of you lot seem to revel in it.

Some of my closest friends are travellers. Doesn't mean I can't recognise when one of them is trying to work the system.

ELM327

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

You’d have to wonder if there would be this level of “backlash” if this woman, and her family, were not part of the travelling community.

Or, perhaps, if it were a father from a “settled” background

This, default, anti-traveller “stance” is rife throughout rural Ireland and some of you lot seem to revel in it.

I couldnt give a hoot if she was from D4 or rural west kerry, black or white, indigenous or migrant, traveller or not.
She's leeching by being nefarious. And you and I are paying for it.

Be right back

I don't understand why she would rather sleep in a car then house her children properly.

ThunbergsAreGo

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Wow, the level of compassion in this thread. Although, you’d hardly expect anything less.

Even if this was a contrived “stunt”, it seems like it was the last resort for this mother. Not sure how many of you would be ok with moving over 50km from where all your family, and “support”, is.

Having to live in a car with 5 kids is an absolute disgrace and I can’t imagine how difficult it has been. Hopefully the council will “cop on” and find somewhere suitable for this woman and her family soon.

Until then, they should all be “put up” in a hotel.

Many people do live more than 50km away from their family and "support" and pay handsomely for it.

StackSteevens

Be right back wrote: »

I don't understand why she would rather sleep in a car then house her children properly.

The Irish Times prefers their handpicked homeless families to sleep in cars. Presumably because it makes the story more heartrending and better clickbait.

(I sometimes wonder how many homelessness activists have Kitty Holland on speed dial.)

mick087

Limpy wrote: »

Mick the reason why these chancers get into a system that always bails them out is because people like you.

Sure you may have a good heart. But its like a heroin addict asked you for money and you feel sorry for him and give him money. He will buy more gear and continue on till he dies.

The help these chancers need is to understand if you don't take something others have to work hard for ,we won't do anymore for you.

I might sound seem like a soft fool but im not. I would give anyone the benefit of the doubt to start with.


When addicts do ask me for anything first thing i do is i ask there name and then ask them are they getting any help. I engage with them talk to them treat the with some respect. Then id try to find out how they ended up how they did. I did do alot of work with homeless and people with addictions in the past unfortunately not so much now.


I would not help a chancer in fact id tell them where they could go if they was a chancer. But i believe in in giving anyone the benefit of doubt.

BattleCorp

Be right back wrote: »

I don't understand why she would rather sleep in a car then house her children properly.

She knows that if she plays this game long enough, the bleeding hearts will give her a 'foreva home' in a location of her choosing.

Load of b0llix is what it is. Leave her in the fcuking car.

Be right back

BattleCorp wrote: »

She knows that if she plays this game long enough, the bleeding hearts will give her a 'foreva home' in a location of her choosing.

Load of b0llix is what it is. Leave her in the fcuking car.

She should be told Cashel or nothing! Sad thing she will probably get a house wherever she wants to live.

StackSteevens

BattleCorp wrote: »

She knows that if she plays this game long enough, the bleeding hearts will give her a 'foreva home' in a location of her choosing.

Load of b0llix is what it is. Leave her in the fcuking car.

That just allows SF and PbP and the rest of the pro-parasite rabble to make media hay over the whole thing.

SEPT 23 1989

I felt a twinge of sympathy until I read the surname

mick087

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I don’t buy this only the rich have access to education for a second.

Why do you think most rich people send there kids to private schools?


If you grew up on a council estate id say you know more people who did an apprenticeship than have a degree.
How many rich people you know did an apprenticeship?

Kalimah

mick087 wrote: »

Why do you think most rich people send there kids to private schools?


If you grew up on a council estate id say you know more people who did an apprenticeship than have a degree.
How many rich people you know did an apprenticeship?

Who do you class as rich? Anyone on 40k a year? 50K?

ELM327

Be right back wrote: »

I don't understand why she would rather sleep in a car then house her children properly.

For a free 4evah humm

ELM327

mick087 wrote: »

Why do you think most rich people send there kids to private schools?


If you grew up on a council estate id say you know more people who did an apprenticeship than have a degree.
How many rich people you know did an apprenticeship?

I went to private school. Most children came from modest means, two professional parents. Some were doctors, accountants and so on. There were one or two who had exorbitant wealth but the majority were from average homes where parents saved to pay for a better education for their children. My parents were a teacher and a factory manager. Hardly coining it, but respectable jobs back in the day.

ELM327

Kalimah wrote: »

Who do you class as rich? Anyone on 40k a year? 50K?

That is the definition used by the lifetime dolers.
You see, they don't understand the concept of pretax income. I earn a chunk more than that and am not loaded by any means.
Someone on the dole with no partner and a few kids could easily get close to or surpass my net income after tax, in cash into their hands.

freshpopcorn

mick087 wrote: »

Why do you think most rich people send there kids to private schools?


If you grew up on a council estate id say you know more people who did an apprenticeship than have a degree.
How many rich people you know did an apprenticeship?

I know a few people who went to a private school and it was mainly for social status than anything else and they wanted there kids at boarding school due to work commitments. The bright ones got on well and others went onto become hairdressers, farming, etc
Whilst in the past guys went straight out of school and did apprenticeships. They nearly all have to do a few years in an IT and get a level 7 or 8 done before getting much work now unless they get taken on with somebody.
Locally loads of people have done degrees out of council estates if they wanted and it was for them.
It would really depend on what you’d classify as rich to be honest. But I know solicitors kid who opened a coffee shops, principal kids who became an hairdresser, electrian, whilst there siblings might have went to university.
I don’t really buy the education is only for the rich for a second. Some people are just lazy in my option and they don’t want it.

mick087

Deleted User wrote: »

I raised my children as a single mother. I worked, paid childcare, paid my mortgage. It never occurred to me to do otherwise. The nearest family was 15 miles away. As my kids got older, I shared childcare with another mum. My neighbors became my support after living there a few years. It can be done. If one wants to.

I'm not sure what your point is? Is

it the fact you did not get this help she seeks? Or the fact you don't believe anyone should get help? Or you just don't believe her?

Single parent did and still do have it tough and do a bloody amazing job. They would do anything to give there kids a better life.

Unfortunately not all single parents will achieve as much as you. So for them that's not make things any tougher.