Commuting costs vs others in team staying at home

The Spider

devnull wrote: »

I have worked in a big multinational where I have successfully seen almost 15 people managed out in that company in four years alone, I've seen about 4 paid off. Many don't get to the pay off stage. Some resign under the sheer stress that they have been put under. Some of them snap and become aggressive which allows the employer to take them down the disciplinary route and fire them eventually and other ones find another job and leave that way.

I had an experience myself about 5 years ago, a manger who spent 9 months trying to kick me out of a job and I went right through the system. I had a solicitor friend who guided me through it and every trick in the book was tried (far more than the list above) but I also knew a few tricks on my side. I was told to my face four times to resign or else and had my chair broken at my desk, equipment went missing, payroll incorrectly completed on purpose, lied to on a daily basis, even stupid things like verbally told to report to another building to pick something up verbally before work next day and when I waited for nothing, I turned up at my desk and was given a strike for being late (3 strikes in 2 months = meeting with HR) and he denied any acknowledgement of previous conversation. This is just some of the things.

In the end I got a large pay off because I told them I would not to resign no matter what they said to me and colleagues in my team started to resign. I was invited to a meeting was offered a sum of money, told them to double it they wouldn't so I told them I was going back to work and they know what my price was. So I went back to work and 15 minutes later I was told to come back and was offered the money, my bonus for the whole year, unused holiday, healthcare for 12 months, a reference and I signed the form and the money was in my account the next morning all upfront. The official company line was I resigned, as for anyone else who asked I took voluntary redundancy. I had a nice long letter that told me I couldn't sue the company and that if anyone asks 'this letter does not exist and should not be disclosed to anyone but the courts'

The irony of the whole lot is since I've left that company I've connected with some former colleagues who I was not that close to, but were there one day and gone the next with no real explanation. Turns out exactly the same tactics were tried with them and we all agreed, that however bad our managers were at wanting us out, it was clear the whole thing was driven by HR and in the meetings I had with HR in that company, they were just as bad as the managers who wanted to remove the staff. They were completely blinkered to what was really going on and trusted their managers through thick and thin.

Worst thing I've ever seen was 10 years ago a colleague putting a private and confidential grievance in about their boss to HR. Within 10 minutes of the grievance submission being emailed to HR a copy of it was on the bosses desk. HR made absolutely no effort to properly investigate the situation impartially and the staff member was a model employee yet the new boss was worried they were too popular and that had to be tackled.

I've seen similar to what you describe above, but maybe not as underhanded as some of it although I'm sure it went on, but where I worked there was a general realisation I would say amongst the majority that these tactics would be used, and in general as soon as it started, people contacted solicitors etc, and knew if they hung in there they would get the money.

Also in my experience if you go back far enough through your email inbox you'll find something incriminating, no one where I worked deleted emails.

Where I work now (remote) its generally anything that may be dodgy is done over A Skype call, but those can be recorded, and slack messages people tend to be a bit free er and easier, and say all sorts of incriminating things anyone with their head screwed on will be keeping an eye on these.

screamer

The Spider wrote: »

Fair enough can't argue with that to be honest, I agree I think if you're not happy getvanother job with more favourable terms, but again as I've said earlier this all depends on what you do, if you're a brilliant UX leader or a brilliant aengineeting leader then you've obviously got more choices available to you than if you're a software tester or someone who works in customer service.

There’s no one brilliant enough to be able to demand not to return to an office where they have always worked, nor to turn in less than satisfactory work and expect to be kept on. All of us are just a pps number and infinitely replaceable, anyone who thinks differently is absolutely away with the fairies.