Has America become relegated to third world status in recent years?

Kaybaykwah

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It's hilarious really. Nobody made him out to be a bad guy for this wealth... but you're jumping around trying to find excuses... against accusations that weren't even made... :pac:

funny

You're not saying anything now. Just skating on very wobbly skates, very thin ice.

Kaybaykwah

Kaybaykwah wrote: »

You're not saying anything now. Just skating on very wobbly skates, very thin ice.

The points I made earlier weren't addressed. Why should I add anything new?

And no.... I'm not skating on any manner of thin ice. I'm just not buying into your rather awkward attempts to steer the discussion.

Kaybaykwah

How is it a problem as 2d person said, that a lifetime of work in politics with a high salary yield a couole of million?

It's the problem part I am having trouble with. You said it was Okay to ditch the so called dirt on him, that it was newsworthy, I told you it was non news, and the flatness fell even flatter with your pussy footing.

lalababa

America has a lot of problems and inequalities. It's 'good to live in' world rankings has been dropping steadily over the years from close to top 15 heading to 50th with no end in sight.
Tough country for the poor/sick/old/disadvantaged etc. But also an over competitive /crap mainstream news/media/paranoid/Mamon worshipping society for all wealth brackets.
Still tis a good place to live in certain areas and for certain people...overall not too bad.
They just need a couple of nudges in the right direction..ie towards a Finland/Sweden model.

Overheal

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"Why is someone who has been a congressman or senator for thirty years, earning on average c.$150,000/yr, a millionaire?"

It should be

"Why the f*ck are so many Americans so desperately poor?"

*Hint* It's because for several decades the 1% have been ciphering the wealth away from them.

In the last 30 years the 1% have increased their wealth by $22,000,000,000,000 (trillion) while the average worker has gotten poorer.


But Bernie Sanders is worth a couple of million and has three houses.

Consider that attorney salary averages $150k/year, that lawmakers make the laws that attorneys rely on, the pay scale is really far from the biggest scandal in government.

As you say the problem is so many Americans who aren't breaking $20k/yr, not lawmakers making $150k.

listermint

Manic Moran wrote: »

If they're living around the world, even in Africa, what's their grounds for understanding what it's like to live here, which isn't around the world or in Africa?

I'm quite happy here and am not about to move back to Europe. Yes, healthcare costs are in dire need of rectifying, and yes, our effectively-two-party system is doing a crappy job of representing the population at large with increasing levels of tribalism.

There is, however, much more to living here than worrying about hospital bills. I am under no uncertainty that my quality of life in the US is better than it would have been had I stayed in Ireland.

Oh, as to the food, it depends on where you are. West Coast will nail Asian food like you wouldn't believe. You may think you have good Chinese or Vietnamese near you in Ireland, you probably don't. Then again, Texas has atrocious Asian, but kills it on BBQ or Eastern European foods. I live in a UNESCO "World City of Gastronomy", how many are in Ireland?

Often amused by the quality of life argument when ones keeps a loaded pistol by their bedside table.

There is much more to living i suppose though..

UNESCO is head quartered in the US, amazing how many UNESCO locations are .... in the US! Mad i know! And as for the food, well we wont go into the quality of food argument because its noxious..

Foxtrol

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Bernie having three houses (one of which was inherited) and being a millionaire is the greatest bollocks argument of all time. He is the poorest member of the Senate.


If you're poor and want better for the poor - you're jealous.

If you're rich and want better for the poor - you're a filthy hypocrite.


Some people just hate the poor.

Problem with Bernie was his rhetoric that left him open to those attacks. He painted the rich as being the enemy, when he himself was one of those rich.

There is a fundamental difference between saying you'll raise taxes on a certain group and making that group out to be the big bad wolf. Politically when you do the latter and you fall in or close to 'the enemy' group you better make sure you are up front about it.

It is however Bernie's style, it is one of the key reasons he did well in both 2016 and 2020 primaries but ultimately failed both times.

YellowBucket

listermint wrote: »

UNESCO is head quartered in the US, amazing how many UNESCO locations are .... in the US!

Its headquarters are in Paris and it’s headed by a former French minister for culture, Audrey Azoulay.

There are 24 sites in the USA and around 400 in Europe (most of which are in the EU). Italy alone has, unsurprisingly, more than 50.

Ireland has a history of not applying for UNESCO recognition btw. We’ve two! The U.K. has 32 and many of them would have similar counterparts in Ireland but we seem to just not even apply for the status and failing to do so has a definite negative impact certain aspects of tourism, especially with the growth of online articles that tend to league tables.

Sean.3516

Why do we care about inequality?

Because we’re jealous and depraved.

Sean.3516

Sean.3516 wrote: »

Why do we care about inequality?

Because we’re jealous and depraved.

Because humans like to chase that which is impossible to attain.