A new public park for Waterford?

hardybuck

Stopitwillya wrote: »

Killure would be a secondary pitch for them. Poleberry would be the main pitch. Not many boys if any of say on the dunmore road would play with Erin's own.

So they're a small club with spare capacity - great. Williamstown is a different and growing area so it's a good fit.

Cabaal

gscully wrote: »

The Willamstown/Dunmore Rd/Ballygunner area needs a secondary school far more than it needs a park.

Why not do both with the land, its big enough?
Build a school and rest of it as a park...far better use of the land then a golf course for those willing to pay to use it.

Ok, it may not be feasiable to do both. But it most certainly be looked at as either would be a far better benefit to more households then a golf course.

gscully

Cabaal wrote: »

Why not do both with the land, its big enough?
Build a school and rest of it as a park...far better use of the land then a golf course for those willing to pay to use it.

Ok, it may not be feasiable to do both. But it most certainly be looked at as either would be a far better benefit to more households then a golf course.

Ultimately, the decision on a school would come from the Dept. of Education.

I gather you don't play golf? I get to play once or twice a year myself, so I don't have a great stake in this debate, but I can tell you that there is more to golf than just hitting a ball. I'm talking about the mental-health and social aspect to it. Sometimes it's nice and healthy to just get out there and forget everything else. I can do that by going for a run too, but not everyone else can. You call it 'a golf course', but for many, it's 'THE golf course' due to its accessibility to lower-income earners and having no airs and graces about itself. Don't underestimate its value to those that use it. If it was closed down and replaced with a park, there would be a lot of unhappy people. Unfortunately, there isn't any other course like this within a reasonable distance, so it is a valuable facility. If there was a second course, this would probably be a simpler argument. For those that seek a park, there are plenty around and we've all been quick to use them during the lockdown.

Ideally, the council could use the spare land near the car park for a playground and create a walkway around the golf-course. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.

BBM77

gscully wrote: »

Ultimately, the decision on a school would come from the Dept. of Education.

I gather you don't play golf? I get to play once or twice a year myself, so I don't have a great stake in this debate, but I can tell you that there is more to golf than just hitting a ball. I'm talking about the mental-health and social aspect to it. Sometimes it's nice and healthy to just get out there and forget everything else. I can do that by going for a run too, but not everyone else can. You call it 'a golf course', but for many, it's 'THE golf course' due to its accessibility to lower-income earners and having no airs and graces about itself. Don't underestimate its value to those that use it. If it was closed down and replaced with a park, there would be a lot of unhappy people. Unfortunately, there isn't any other course like this within a reasonable distance, so it is a valuable facility. If there was a second course, this would probably be a simpler argument. For those that seek a park, there are plenty around and we've all been quick to use them during the lockdown.

Ideally, the council could use the spare land near the car park for a playground and create a walkway around the golf-course. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.

Have to say the tone of the argument on this mainly coming from Mary Roche has been pretty unpleasant. And frankly would say it bordered on bullying. She just dismissed the golf course as something used by “old males”, her words not mine, and did not even have the cop-on to find out anything about the golf course and its use. Suppose if she finds out a lot of “old females” use it there will cease to be a problem. Logically there is no reason a walkway could not be added around the perimeter and have the best of both worlds. However, Mary Roche clearly has issues with men here own age.

Harry Palmr

I heard Michael Walsh, he is basically teeing this suggestion up I think. Talking darkly about how Williamstown is subsidised heavily and that the reasons for the course being built are no longer as pressing (posh courses turning the ordinary Joe/Josephine away). Interestingly a green councilor is against the plan.

johnnykilo

Looks like the motion has been withdrawn again as per Councillor John Hearne's Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=999350733821971&id=265367990553586

Flow Motion

As someone who goes for a walk in the People Park early each morning before work I am disgusted and appalled at the sight of large amounts of rubbish left scattered across the entire area the day after a previous day's sunny weather. The are around the skate park is particularly badly littered on a constant basis. Empty cans, bottles, discarded take way boxes, pizzas, wrappers etc. Not to put a finer point on it these people are pure pigs. No civic pride or responsibility. Sadly its mostly the entitled youth of today. Does not fill me much hope for the future.

friendlyfun

Flow Motion wrote: »

As someone who goes for a walk in the People Park early each morning before work I am disgusted and appalled at the sight of large amounts of rubbish left scattered across the entire area the day after a previous day's sunny weather. The are around the skate park is particularly badly littered on a constant basis. Empty cans, bottles, discarded take way boxes, pizzas, wrappers etc. Not to put a finer point on it these people are pure pigs. No civic pride or responsibility. Sadly its mostly the entitled youth of today. Does not fill me much hope for the future.

You had me until you said entitled youth of today. Their actions don't speak for all young people. These people are just slobs.

friendlyfun

What's the craic with Wyse Park? posted it here but never got any response. Does anybody know what's going on with it??

shockwave

friendlyfun wrote: »

What's the craic with Wyse Park? posted it here but never got any response. Does anybody know what's going on with it??

I could never understand why people called it a park its just an empty concrete yard.

Deiseen

shockwave wrote: »

I could never understand why people called it a park its just an empty concrete yard.

I imagine it was a park at some stage. But yeah, far from a park now!

Dunmoreroader

Dunmoreroader wrote: »

I would also point out that there is a fantastic river walk along most of the south bank of the Suir, which is essentially a linear park. This also caters to the population cohort Cllr. Roche speaks for. The Council should be looking to upgrade and enhance this for the enjoyment of locals and visitors alike. If it was upgraded it would be better than the Greenway for walkers/strollers and another little gem of a tourist attraction in the heart of the city. It should go continuously from the Marina Hotel out to Blenheim and beyond but a few landowners along the route have appropriated the foreshore into their gardens(not sure if legally or not?), PwC and a few homeowners near Waterford Castle ferry come to mind.
Picnic tables, lots of bins, new fencing, regular maintenance & cleaning, tree husbandry and continuous monitoring to prevent dumping and anti-social behavior could transform this under-appreciated asset into a fantastic amenity for the city.

I see the council are in the process of upgrading the riverside walk behind Glenville (long neglected) and along behind Maypark to a surface suitable for cycling as well as walking. Thanks for listening WCCC. Anyone know if the two sections are going to be reunited i.e. via the old Snowcream site and the dismantled bridge over Cove lane?