Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

alps

stanflt wrote: »

Just went to register a calf there and I couldn’t- the heifer is down as a bull on the register
This has never happened before
Lovely bit of explaining to do to the Dvo

The animal is entitled to be non-binary...DVO going to have to treat this with great sensitivity..

whelan2

Interesting that she/he would probably have been tb tested a few times and it didn't show up on the vets handheld

stanflt

whelan2 wrote: »

Interesting that she/he would probably have been tb tested a few times and it didn't show up on the vets handheld

And she was ai d by a reputable company

whelan2

stanflt wrote: »

And she was ai d by a reputable company

I normally go through my herd register about once a month and filter the bulls, I then have an idea what's there and what should have been taken off. I assumed you put scanning dates into your farm program or was she a female on that?

stanflt

whelan2 wrote: »

I normally go through my herd register about once a month and filter the bulls, I then have an idea what's there and what should have been taken off. I assumed you put scanning dates into your farm program or was she a female on that?

Only record scanning dates if there different to ai dates- less imputing to do

blue5000

stanflt wrote: »

Just went to register a calf there and I couldn’t- the heifer is down as a bull on the register
This has never happened before
Lovely bit of explaining to do to the Dvo

They're well used to it at this stage.:D

You dairy lads don't realize how easy you have it. Tagging suckler calves is so dangerous we don't get time to feel for balls, doing well to get 1 tag in and not be flattened by a cow.
Last few years I've been packing the whole lot of them into a tight yard to catch and tag calves every 2 weeks. Out the field then with binoculars in the jeep to see who owns what.
Every generation is getting wilder. Bloody awkward one to sort when a 'bull' calves, even worse when 'he' calves a second time and you still haven't the first calf registered, so don't hang about with the paperchase sex change operation.

whelan2

blue5000 wrote: »

They're well used to it at this stage.:D

You dairy lads don't realize how easy you have it. Tagging suckler calves is so dangerous we don't get time to feel for balls, doing well to get 1 tag in and not be flattened by a cow.
Last few years I've been packing the whole lot of them into a tight yard to catch and tag calves every 2 weeks. Out the field then with binoculars in the jeep to see who owns what.
Every generation is getting wilder. Bloody awkward one to sort when a 'bull' calves, even worse when 'he' calves a second time and you still haven't the first calf registered, so don't hang about with the paperchase sex change operation.

That should be in the rooter thread

straight

My first collection results came in. Scc @ 1112. Do I get a prize I wonder. It's usually around 100 all year. Was in the tank 4 days. I'll hardly get the SCC bonus this month.

bamayang

Where did the thread go with the young lad looking for advise about becoming a tractor mechanic and then milking cows? Can’t seem to see it anywhere, was interesting reading.

tanko

bamayang wrote: »

Where did the thread go with the young lad looking for advise about becoming a tractor mechanic and then milking cows? Can’t seem to see it anywhere, was interesting reading.

Viability of small dairy farm??

Siamsa Sessions

straight wrote: »

My first collection results came in. Scc @ 1112. Do I get a prize I wonder. It's usually around 100 all year. Was in the tank 4 days. I'll hardly get the SCC bonus this month.

Schoolboy question: longer in tank means higher SCC?

kevthegaff

straight wrote: »

My first collection results came in. Scc @ 1112. Do I get a prize I wonder. It's usually around 100 all year. Was in the tank 4 days. I'll hardly get the SCC bonus this month.

Mine was mad too

GrasstoMilk

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

Schoolboy question: longer in tank means higher SCC?

Longer in tank would result higher tbc
Tbc is usually to do with quality of milk and cleanliness of milking machine/ bulk tank

Scc is high white blood cells in the cows- fighting infections

Then you have thermoduric which is cleanliness of cows pretty much

Thats my basic understanding of it all

mahoney_j

kevthegaff wrote: »

Mine was mad too

I had a bananas one too on first collection ....along with 3.5% aw and a 4.01 lactose ...Arrabawn supplier ,will be calling lab to query it

greysides

bamayang wrote: »

Where did the thread go with the young lad looking for advise about becoming a tractor mechanic and then milking cows? Can’t seem to see it anywhere, was interesting reading.

Helping out Tanko, I think.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058150786

whelan2

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Longer in tank would result higher tbc
Tbc is usually to do with quality of milk and cleanliness of milking machine/ bulk tank

Scc is high white blood cells in the cows- fighting infections

Then you have thermoduric which is cleanliness of cows pretty much

Thats my basic understanding of it all

K thought thermoduric was some bit of bacteria in the plant that the milk is passing over?

visatorro

whelan2 wrote:

K thought thermoduric was some bit of bacteria in the plant that the milk is passing over?

Thermoduric was tiny particles of dirt ? Whether from cows or deposits in the plant was my understanding??

Mooooo

Thermoduric are bacteria that may survive pasteurization, I think may normally be found in soil so either wet or very dry weather when cows may skin a paddock

Gary kk

visatorro wrote: »

Thermoduric was tiny particles of dirt ? Whether from cows or deposits in the plant was my understanding??

Heat resistant bacteria I think usually for me it would be from the vacuum over flow I would get issues with it.

whelan2

Gary kk wrote: »

Heat resistant bacteria I think usually for me it would be from the vacuum over flow I would get issues with it.

Same here can't wait to get new milking parlour done. Have to wish out the pipeline weekly here or I get problems

raindodger

milk tests usually all over the shop at this tume of year got one for 19.8% water on 800 litres with in my opinion none added auto washer on machine ,three milkings looking at all the milky rinse going down the drain new driver but im wrong of course .

jaymla627

raindodger wrote: »

milk tests usually all over the shop at this tume of year got one for 19.8% water on 800 litres with in my opinion none added auto washer on machine ,three milkings looking at all the milky rinse going down the drain new driver but im wrong of course .

What co-op are you with, if glanbia you'll have a 20 cent a litre fine on 19.8% of your entire February milk unless you get milk manager to rescind it

whelan2

raindodger wrote: »

milk tests usually all over the shop at this tume of year got one for 19.8% water on 800 litres with in my opinion none added auto washer on machine ,three milkings looking at all the milky rinse going down the drain new driver but im wrong of course .

Are you the first milk collected on the lorry? I get that too sn odd time, though not as high

tismesoitis

raindodger wrote: »

milk tests usually all over the shop at this tume of year got one for 19.8% water on 800 litres with in my opinion none added auto washer on machine ,three milkings looking at all the milky rinse going down the drain new driver but im wrong of course .

How were your fat and protein percentages for this collection? With 20% water these should be on the floor!!

Grueller

Last two heifers that calved here have mastitis. Can't figure it as none of the second calvers have had it and they're housed together. Cubicles swept clean and limed twice a day. If it was environmental I would imagine that the second calvers would have it unless I did a top notch job of sealing them.

Castlekeeper

Grueller wrote: »

Last two heifers that calved here have mastitis. Can't figure it as none of the second calvers have had it and they're housed together. Cubicles swept clean and limed twice a day. If it was environmental I would imagine that the second calvers would have it unless I did a top notch job of sealing them.

Did you seal the heifers as well?
Are they springing hard and dropping milk?
Such heifers can be very vulnerable.
Hope you get to the root of it.

stanflt

Had my first case of milk fever this am- not bad for 110 calvings- lifted her out of the cubicles to a straw bedded shed this morning- gave her another 2 bottles in the vein this evening and she was up after milking
Great satisfaction

Grueller

Castlekeeper wrote: »

Did you seal the heifers as well?
Are they springing hard and dropping milk?
Such heifers can be very vulnerable.
Hope you get to the root of it.

No I understood that heifers were naturally sealed. Ya they are springing hard and dropping milk as you say.

mahoney_j

stanflt wrote: »

Had my first case of milk fever this am- not bad for 110 calvings- lifted her out of the cubicles to a straw bedded shed this morning- gave her another 2 bottles in the vein this evening and she was up after milking
Great satisfaction

150 gramms mag flakes 5 days pre calving and any dodgy looking cow gets a calcium bolus at onset of calving .....I’m saying no more

Reggie.

mahoney_j wrote: »

150 gramms mag flakes 5 days pre calving and any dodgy looking cow gets a calcium bolus at onset of calving .....I’m saying no more

Sure that lads only a cowboy