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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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    #4022
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Can you increase the water pipe size and water pressure ?
    Header tank would have stagnant water I would say


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    #4023
    Injuryprone
    Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    Can you tell the milk truck to come at a more convenient time


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    #4024
    Freejin
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭Freejin


    Injuryprone wrote: »
    Can you tell the milk truck to come at a more convenient time

    Not sure how that request would be received, the same driver and he takes the same route with the last 20 years! To be fair at the shoulders of the year he will be earlier, but april to september it can be late when he comes


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    #4025
    straight
    Registered Users Posts: 4,827 ✭✭✭straight


    Kerry have given 5 years notice to cancel our milk contract. I guess that means that we'll be paid the leading milk price for the last 5 years and the next 5 years and after that we don't know.


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    #4026
    K.G.
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,201 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Young was telling me this evening that his buddies want to put in a rapid exit 24 unit parlour so i was thinking away about as i was milking.cant figure how these speed up milking as you need 6 minutes to put on 24 clusters and 7minutes for the last one to milk so the row time is 13 minutes.what am i missing


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    #4027
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    K.G. wrote: »
    Young was telling me this evening that his buddies want to put in a rapid exit 24 unit parlour so i was thinking away about as i was milking.cant figure how these speed up milking as you need 6 minutes to put on 24 clusters and 7minutes for the last one to milk so the row time is 13 minutes.what am i missing

    Bar the first and last rows those times over lap to an extent. Getting the 24 cows out of the parlour faster would help as opposed to waiting for them to walk out allows the next row to set up faster. Longer herringbones would benefit more From what I gather given they need a shed similar in size to a rotary, and with the extra steel work a 44 unit rotary may not be a whole pile more and a more comfortable way of milking em
    Debating what way I'll go here, thinking 24 unit but i dunno, this will see me out and want a one person parlour and try and keep the number of rows down but in 20 years will I still be up for racing up and down it. Cows not walking out annoy me in the 14 unit not a mind a longer one. Nearly miss milking with no feeders in parlour, milking was much more enjoyable, the feeding after not so much..


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    #4028
    Timmaay
    Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    straight wrote: »
    Kerry have given 5 years notice to cancel our milk contract. I guess that means that we'll be paid the leading milk price for the last 5 years and the next 5 years and after that we don't know.

    Fook, and I thought Glanbias 2yrs notice was bad. Surely this is all getting to the anti competition stage now?


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    #4029
    green daries
    Registered Users Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭green daries


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Bar the first and last rows those times over lap to an extent. Getting the 24 cows out of the parlour faster would help as opposed to waiting for them to walk out allows the next row to set up faster. Longer herringbones would benefit more From what I gather given they need a shed similar in size to a rotary, and with the extra steel work a 44 unit rotary may not be a whole pile more and a more comfortable way of milking em
    Debating what way I'll go here, thinking 24 unit but i dunno, this will see me out and want a one person parlour and try and keep the number of rows down but in 20 years will I still be up for racing up and down it. Cows not walking out annoy me in the 14 unit not a mind a longer one. Nearly miss milking with no feeders in parlour, milking was much more enjoyable, the feeding after not so much..

    Two robots and away you go


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    #4030
    K.G.
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,201 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    straight wrote: »
    Kerry have given 5 years notice to cancel our milk contract. I guess that means that we'll be paid the leading milk price for the last 5 years and the next 5 years and after that we don't know.

    Should kerry suppliers also issue their notice to the processor so.


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    #4031
    cute geoge
    Registered Users Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    K.G. wrote: »
    Should kerry suppliers also issue their notice to the processor so.

    Kerry plc are acting as if they wont need any milk in the future ,yet there all their sales are based on the commodity they call milk .Glanbia and kerry will do what ever it takes to keep the price of milk low so their shareholders can reap the rewards


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    #4032
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    green daries wrote: »
    Two robots and away you go

    Lol, if they throw in 2 tunnels with em and a well reduced price on another 1 or 2 if needed


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    #4033
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    green daries wrote: »
    Two robots and away you go

    Great if you want to spend all day running around after cows and have a ball of money to keep them serviced
    A fair few horror stories with robots around here with guys who are well capable.
    Costing a fortune to keep running


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    #4034
    Gman1987
    Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭Gman1987


    cute geoge wrote: »
    Kerry plc are acting as if they wont need any milk in the future ,yet there all their sales are based on the commodity they call milk .Glanbia and kerry will do what ever it takes to keep the price of milk low so their shareholders can reap the rewards

    Transfer pricing is a great thing. Sell it cheap to your other entity (i.e coop to PLC) therefore low return on the commodity from the coop and high return in the output from the PLC.


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    #4035
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,687 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Great if you want to spend all day running around after cows and have a ball of money to keep them serviced
    A fair few horror stories with robots around here with guys who are well capable.
    Costing a fortune to keep running

    When you see the army of technicians lely have on the road it tells the tale, funny the way the journal have gone quiet about the issue and the group of farmers that had formed re robot issues, they must be getting some fairly saucy keep quiet ad money


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    #4036
    green daries
    Registered Users Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭green daries


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Great if you want to spend all day running around after cows and have a ball of money to keep them serviced
    A fair few horror stories with robots around here with guys who are well capable.
    Costing a fortune to keep running

    OK not good there so ...
    One man two robots 1.1 million litres
    Abc grazing no and I mean no problem
    He even is doing a large share of the services
    No labour
    Most of slurry work is contract
    Well set up
    Figures are genuine


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    #4037
    green daries
    Registered Users Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭green daries


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Lol, if they throw in 2 tunnels with em and a well reduced price on another 1 or 2 if needed

    Ya crossings are a problem I'd have to do one myself good few round here with two robot one neighbor has one crossing on a secondary road didn't run into huge money I was surprised about it
    Can be expensive for the third in comparison with two robots all right


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    #4038
    green daries
    Registered Users Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭green daries


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    When you see the army of technicians lely have on the road it tells the tale, funny the way the journal have gone quiet about the issue and the group of farmers that had formed re robot issues, they must be getting some fairly saucy keep quiet ad money

    Problem round here is lads won't come to service milking machines there brutal the last year or so lots of lads giving out about all brands


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    #4039
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    green daries wrote: »
    Ya crossings are a problem I'd have to do one myself good few round here with two robot one neighbor has one crossing on a secondary road didn't run into huge money I was surprised about it
    Can be expensive for the third in comparison with two robots all right

    Ah yeah, wouldn't write anything off would hope to have 1 tunnel in at some stage and the last bit could be managed away anyway. Parlour allows flexibility of no added milking facilities required if opportunity to add a few cows down the line came up. When you go to three possible robots money wise you'd nearly be talking rotary money which would be the better option at that price bracket


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    #4040
    K.G.
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,201 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    On rotary s, i ve 2 heifers calved a month and 2 weeks and will kick after 20 seconds and continue for entire milking,would 15 to 20 times a milking. How would the like be managed in a rotary.the way it works hereis we put on in between putting a cluster on another cow and every time we pass themcould put cluster on them 20 times a milking


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    #4041
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,687 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    K.G. wrote: »
    On rotary s, i ve 2 heifers calved a month and 2 weeks and will kick after 20 seconds and continue for entire milking,would 15 to 20 times a milking. How would the like be managed in a rotary.the way it works hereis we put on in between putting a cluster on another cow and every time we pass themcould put cluster on them 20 times a milking
    A trip to MacDonalds I’d say, have a long chain here with two clips for heifers like the above tie up one leg of the ground and they can’t kick, after 4-5 milkings they never raise a foot again


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    #4042
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    K.G. wrote: »
    On rotary s, i ve 2 heifers calved a month and 2 weeks and will kick after 20 seconds and continue for entire milking,would 15 to 20 times a milking. How would the like be managed in a rotary.the way it works hereis we put on in between putting a cluster on another cow and every time we pass themcould put cluster on them 20 times a milking

    Rope normally sorts that here in the first week, wouldn't be putting up with it for a month. Afaik the drafting is key, some come with pre drafting gates as well as post, any cow to be kept out or needs individual attention drafted out to be dealt with last. When numbers are bigger running em as a separate herd for milking then, load em up and milk away while tis parked


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    #4043
    Morris Moss
    Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Morris Moss


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Rope normally sorts that here in the first week, wouldn't be putting up with it for a month. Afaik the drafting is key, some come with pre drafting gates as well as post, any cow to be kept out or needs individual attention drafted out to be dealt with last. When numbers are bigger running em as a separate herd for milking then, load em up and milk away while tis parked

    In other words, hardship.


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    #4044
    Grueller
    Registered Users Posts: 5,220 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Morris Moss wrote: »
    In other words, hardship.

    Is there another way to train heifers?


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    #4045
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Morris Moss wrote: »
    In other words, hardship.

    Spent plenty years throwing out ration with buckets in to troughs in yards for milkers, we all learn eventually, I was a fit minor tho lol


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    #4046
    Morris Moss
    Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Morris Moss


    Grueller wrote: »
    Is there another way to train heifers?

    Haven't used a rope ever, or a kickbar for years, would have to hold a tail every now and then.


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    #4047
    Morris Moss
    Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Morris Moss


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Spent plenty years throwing out ration with buckets in to troughs in yards for milkers, we all learn eventually, I was a fit minor tho lol

    Did the same here for a good while, don't think I'd go back anytime soon.


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    #4048
    straight
    Registered Users Posts: 4,827 ✭✭✭straight


    Grueller wrote: »
    Is there another way to train heifers?

    Breeding has alot to do with it. Mine were a pleasure to deal with this year.


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    #4049
    Gillespy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Same here, its not the big ordeal it was in the past. They want to be milked, the wildness is bred out of them, its just the odd one for a few milkings now. Tying them up doesnt take 15 seconds, its the quickest and safest way of dealing with a kicker.


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    #4050
    Acquiescence
    Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭Acquiescence


    Grueller wrote: »
    Is there another way to train heifers?

    Trust and familiarity.


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    #4051
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    K.G. wrote: »
    On rotary s, i ve 2 heifers calved a month and 2 weeks and will kick after 20 seconds and continue for entire milking,would 15 to 20 times a milking. How would the like be managed in a rotary.the way it works hereis we put on in between putting a cluster on another cow and every time we pass themcould put cluster on them 20 times a milking

    no problem... they do let fly when ya put it on 1st time.. but they kick the steel cabinets beside there legs and it guess that hurts after a while an dthey just stop.. have to say since we moved to the rotary it has been a pleasur eto milk heifers.. used to take 3 of us to do it in herringbone parlour...


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