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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭straight


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Did the vet put back a magnet?

    No.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    straight wrote: »
    I've a cow that has stopped eating about 4 days ago and milk has obviously fallen away to barely anything. She is picking tiny bits and passing small bits of dung but no appetite. Vet said it's a digestive upset. Pumped her stomach and left bovistim sachets for her but no change. Would ye have any ideas? She doesn't look empty for a cow that hasn't eaten in 4 days. No temperature

    Did your vet rule out a displacement


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Did your vet rule out a displacement

    That was my thought as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭atlantic mist


    find coffee great for upset digestion and dose for fluke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭straight


    Did your vet rule out a displacement

    Funny time of year for that but like it alright. He said stomachs are working but slowly. He listened to the heart too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    straight wrote: »
    Funny time of year for that but like it alright. He said stomachs are working but slowly. He listened to the heart too.

    They can get it anytime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,701 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Is it long since she was scanned?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭straight


    find coffee great for upset digestion and dose for fluke

    I was thinking that during milking. I'll give her a bottle of colombias finest coffee in the morning and a shot of eprinex along the back. Stomach worms were high in my herd health report alright but I didn't take any notice. I'll call the vet back next week if no improvement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭straight


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Is it long since she was scanned?

    Not scanned yet. Afraid of dead calf and poisoning but she would have a fever surely. Can see no symptoms apart from lack of appetite and lack of milk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,701 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    straight wrote: »
    Not scanned yet. Afraid of dead calf and poisoning but she would have a fever surely. Can see no symptoms apart from lack of appetite and lack of milk.

    If vet handled her they might have noticed something


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Dud she get an injection?
    I had one a couple of weeks ago like that, injection sorted her. Milking the finest since


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭straight


    Dud she get an injection?
    I had one a couple of weeks ago like that, injection sorted her. Milking the finest since

    Just got b vitamin injection. I know if I call the vet back he'll just fill her up with antibiotics which is fine if it fixes her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭einn32


    straight wrote: »
    Just got b vitamin injection. I know if I call the vet back he'll just fill her up with antibiotics which is fine if it fixes her.

    Did the vet definitely rule out a foreign object in the stomach?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭straight


    einn32 wrote: »
    Did the vet definitely rule out a foreign object in the stomach?

    Digestive problem he said. Would listening to the heart rule that out. I believe the foreign object comes through the wall of the rumen and pierces the heart


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,701 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    If you look at the vein in her neck , if it's pulsing quickly her heart is under pressure. Could be one of many things wrong with her


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    So gain feeds are after having a batch of equine feed show up containing banned growth hormones for beef cattle, it's pretty dumb founding , going to be some compensation claims incoming, do the plc still own this side of the business our will the co-op take the biggest hit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,701 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    So gain feeds are after having a batch of equine feed show up containing banned growth hormones for beef cattle, it's pretty dumb founding , going to be some compensation claims incoming, do the plc still own this side of the business our will the co-op take the biggest hit

    A major fook up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,275 ✭✭✭tanko


    Why would Glanbia have banned substances in their possession in the first place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    tanko wrote: »
    Why would Glanbia have banned substances in their possession in the first place?

    It makes no sense, looking up the company that makes it, which is intervet and has manufacturing sites in Ireland I thought maybe their was a mess-up and it was sent to a the mill mistakenly as some other product, but it's made in France so that rules out that, it's a nasty product reading up on it, and can lead to serious health issues for cattle and horses alike re destroying hoof health and causing laminitits, was banned in America for awhile back in 2013 when a few hundred cattle been fed the product hooves fell off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    It makes no sense, looking up the company that makes it, which is intervet and has manufacturing sites in Ireland I thought maybe their was a mess-up and it was sent to a the mill mistakenly as some other product, but it's made in France so that rules out that, it's a nasty product reading up on it, and can lead to serious health issues for cattle and horses alike re destroying hoof health and causing laminitits, was banned in America for awhile back in 2013 when a few hundred cattle been fed the product hooves fell off

    We'll have to wait for the results of ingredient testing and batch samples kept for exactly this purpose to be tested to find where in the production and delivery chain this product was added.

    Seeing as they don't use this product in any feed formulations, the risk of accidental contamination seems remote.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    We'll have to wait for the results of ingredient testing and batch samples kept for exactly this purpose to be tested to find where in the production and delivery chain this product was added.

    Seeing as they don't use this product in any feed formulations, the risk of accidental contamination seems remote.

    Irish samples have been found to contain the product now so they are goosed to put it lightly, cant see the likes of coolmore and the other high end studs contemplating using gain feed again, even farmers should be wary on the livestock side of it with the crap they do be putting into rations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    Irish samples have been found to contain the product now so they are goosed to put it lightly, cant see the likes of coolmore and the other high end studs contemplating using gain feed again, even farmers should be wary on the livestock side of it with the crap they do be putting into rations

    I wounder what the Glanbia share price will be tomorrow morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    It makes no sense, looking up the company that makes it, which is intervet and has manufacturing sites in Ireland I thought maybe their was a mess-up and it was sent to a the mill mistakenly as some other product, but it's made in France so that rules out that, it's a nasty product reading up on it, and can lead to serious health issues for cattle and horses alike re destroying hoof health and causing laminitits, was banned in America for awhile back in 2013 when a few hundred cattle been fed the product hooves fell off

    Why are Intervet making a banned nasty substance that causes cattle’s hooves to fall off????


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    Why are Intervet making a banned nasty substance that causes cattle’s hooves to fall off????

    It’s probably still used legally in beef in other parts of the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Why are Intervet making a banned nasty substance that causes cattle’s hooves to fall off????

    I dont know but it would sicken you to the pit of your stomach


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Why are Intervet making a banned nasty substance that causes cattle’s hooves to fall off????

    Could have been overdosed or what not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,606 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    And what would Glanbia have done if it had been mixed in dairy feed and affected their own production? One really wonders at this type of integrated food chain.
    Stuff like this shouldn't be made or stored in the same location as stuff for markets that don't allow it, EU Regs if necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭straight


    I heard on the news the greens saying they are going to help the farmers by reducing the national herd. Farmers don't make money at the moment so it won't cost them anything she said. She's going to incentivise and retrain us to grow grains and the like. I'm all for it myself as I went miss getting **** and pissed on at 6 in the morning and dealing with the whole animal side of things. I might take up golf with all my spare time. I would have thought tillage was more harmful to what I'm at now but what would I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    Going to be big compo paid out. Aidan O Brein pulled 4 horses out of the prix de l'arc today over feed concerns!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    straight wrote: »
    I heard on the news the greens saying they are going to help the farmers by reducing the national herd. Farmers don't make money at the moment so it won't cost them anything she said. She's going to incentivise and retrain us to grow grains and the like. I'm all for it myself as I went miss getting **** and pissed on at 6 in the morning and dealing with the whole animal side of things. I might take up golf with all my spare time. I would have thought tillage was more harmful to what I'm at now but what would I know.

    Are we to harvest these grains or what’s the plan


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