Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

alps

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922994#Comment_120922994

The experts say??

They'd be genius..

mahoney_j

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120908114#Comment_120908114

Inspector here and gone …no issue with inspector very fair waterways and having them fenced and no troughs within 20 meters the big one

measured all my tanks looked at silage slabs and where bales are stored …checked effluent been collected

also measured any loose sheds with concrete floor …calf sheds etc

I had lime dockets …grass seed receipt which showed I was using clovers ….meal docket to show feeding no higher than 15% protein

feetliser dockets for 2023 to be submitted after 14 September and receipts from contractor showing slurry spread with t shoe

Wildsurfer

Did he walk the whole farm to check all troughs and all wires were back far enough from streams?

mahoney_j

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120925753#Comment_120925753

No just on the blocks where rivers/streams where

dmakc

Anyone milking OAD? Or are familiar with the process..

What time is best to milk?

Say if TAD cows graze 1acre per 24hrs - what would OAD look to graze?

In terms of Nitrates, I imagine your litres production being down automatically puts you in the lowest band so so technically the shortfall in production could be countered a bit by allowing more herd capacity?

If cows are milked OAD one year, can they go back up to TAD the following year?

Pinsnbushings

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120926005#Comment_120926005

We have been milking OAD a few years now.

We milk at anywhere between 7 and 8 am depending on time of year etc. I don't think it matters what time as long as it's regular the same as TAD .

In my experience they will most likely graze near enough the same ground. You will save on meal.

We are in the lower band which has benefits with nitrates but obviously is negative as regard turnover.

I haven't returned any cows to TAD bit I can't see any reason why you couldn't return to that.

In a group with around 50 farmers some with much more impressive figures than me. Also a couple there that are operating 10 in 7 routines

dmakc

Thanks for that - and would you / the group be mainly friesian as I read Jersey also do well for OAD

Pinsnbushings

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927323#Comment_120927323

We have friesan, a good portion would have crossbred..it's hard tell what cows will do well until you try them to be honest. As a rule I suppose you'd prefer to have high percentages rather than litres to keep pressure off the udders.

I'd say good crossbreds are on average best suited, but obviously there is the calf, cull cow issues associated

K.G.

At the moment it feels like every one is having a go at dairy farmers and cows and it feels like the odds are being stacked against us.we are in a tourist area andthis morning I was just straightening up a bit of fencing in the field the cows had gone into by the road and 3 separate people stopped up to take photos of the cows and tourists are always looking at them and taking photos.so despite the media's agenda to get rid of us the one thing in our favour is people love cows especially grazing in a field.

JustJoe7240

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120929204#Comment_120929204

Problem is due to social media, These folk have a platform. Opinion polls in February show 4% of population giving the greens first vote yet the way they go on, You'd swear they have the backing of the whole country.

tanko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120929204#Comment_120929204

Did any of them give you money?

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120929232#Comment_120929232

They get over and above their proportionate time on TV, radio, and in newspapers too. Most of life is boring and the media is always looking for someone saying something different - these lads tick that box. Even thou only 4% (and that's optimistic) would vote for them now.

The media types would like to think farming is below them and Ireland Inc is some sort of London, Singapore, New York type of place with nothing only sophisticated industries. Hard to know where to begin with their misplaced and uninformed fantasies. I'm assuming most of the media people in Ireland are either the children or grandchildren of farmers or from a rural background. But that's a whole other story.

Point being the vast majority of regular people, like @K.G. met this morning, appreciate farming and farmers. And social media gives us a great chance to show normal, everyday farm life.

If people think it looks boring sometimes, then great. That means they don't think we're the industrial monsters some 'environmental journalists' make us out to be.

JustJoe7240

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120929586#Comment_120929586

+1

Only yesterday I was in the yard of a dairy farmer who has started running a farm shop to sell their own milk as well as the produce of some local producers, I couldn’t believe the number of people there. Was speaking to a lady while queuing, She commented how it was a lovely place to buy food in comparison to Tesco where she does a lot of her shopping.

roosterman71

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120929586#Comment_120929586

On this, I see one of the countries resident anti farming, yet take money from farmers, mouthpiece is calling for an elected TD to be silenced

https://twitter.com/think_or_swim/status/1684982828742651915?s=20

This same elected man who has topped polls, represents thousands of people and questions the idiocy. And bullshit doom monger jackass wants him silenced in favour of himself and his ilk I guess, all of whom have no history of representing people or being elected to anything by people. Only achievement is shouting loud

farmertipp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120930181#Comment_120930181

what a nasty fcuker

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120930181#Comment_120930181

Not sure what this man has to do before someone in the media questions him: he was insulting a child with autism and the child's father a few days ago, and now he's calling for the thousands of people who elected a TD to go unrepresented. Maybe democracy and voting rights are only for the true believers?

It's becoming more like a religion every day and "responsible" media types are afraid to question him in case he denounces them from the pulpit of a rival media outlet.

straight

Empty vessels always made most noise. The noisy minority. The majority only speak up when something really big happens.

It doesn't help when RTE is mandated to talk climate change more often than is warranted. They just keep banging the drum and it all comes back to Irish cows, nothing else.

GNWoodd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120930181#Comment_120930181

When you want to silence the opposition it is a sign that you are losing the argument . Our recent ‘ Summer ‘ weather has taken the wind out of their sails.

Hard to understand how the planet is burning when you are up to the axles in muck and need to change out of wet clothes every time you go herding

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120930412#Comment_120930412

And that John Tierney lad not much better.

green daries

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120930412#Comment_120930412

He really is a dirty piece of work his father would be ashamed of what he's turned into. And that is not an over exaggeration. A real Hitler type far right individual. Which given the recent comments by some individuals is quite ironic......I think anyway

roosterman71

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120930486#Comment_120930486

Speaking of democracy, the comments after his tweet actually mentioned democracy and how the people of Roscommon "have a lot to answer for" in electing him, and then another mentioned how him being elected is a great example of how democracy doesn't work

farmertipp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120930842#Comment_120930842

he even looks bad in the photo

dmakc

He's clearly unhinged. Let him at it, doing more harm than good for his reputation. Mad man

jaymla627

The latest newsletter from tirlain wouldn't fill a lad with to much confidence, the 3 cent support payment for June milk isn't actually part of the base-price make-up and will be pulled in July back to 34.5 cent our lower going by the wording, on the next paragraph he's rambling about the new cheese plant, he'll have a job getting milk to run it if he follows through with a base price of 34 cent our lower heading into the winter

Coolcormack1979

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120931307#Comment_120931307

And yet he’s given free reign to spout his bs on the last word weekly and that langer cooper keeps on praising him

Neddyusa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120932433#Comment_120932433

That's surely a sponsored segment on the radio show!

There's no way he could be seen as a credible, informed voice without Today FM getting a chunk of change, or is there?!

The Rabbi

https://radiotoday.ie/2023/01/today-fms-the-last-word-with-matt-cooper-gets-new-sponsor/

https://iapi.ie/blog/default/allcare-pharmacy-are-to-be-the-new-sponsor-of-today-with-claire-byrne-on-rt%C3%A9-radio

John Gibbons is an Irish environmental campaigner and the founder of the climatechange.ie website. He also co-founded the healthcare publishing and communications specialists MedMedia Group.

I really don't understand how he happens to get invited on to those shows.

straight

I heard the bollox on the last word the other day and Matt was mentioning possible inaccuracies in what he was saying. He shut Matt down straight away and put him back in his box.

He said "I have all these people blocked on twitter, occasionally they try to follow me over here but I know you wouldn't allow them to interfere with me here" or something to that effect.

awaywithyou

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120930181#Comment_120930181

thats a disgraceful tweet by gibbons.... mother of god... its literally the lowest of the low... its him that should be silenced not fitzmaurice.... for a guy that grew up on a farm.. to have had 2 very hardworking parents.. an uncle that was a minister for agriculture.. for him to have turned out the way he has turned out is unbelievable... and he most definitely has become more and more bitter since his mother passed away.... the way he speaks to Matt Cooper.. he literally talks down to him.... Matt must have zero backbone....

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120932460#Comment_120932460

He is and then some. Don't underestimate the reach, influence and audience he has.

He also has to up the ante, after Padraic Fogarty called farm orgs far right.

They are like the Unionists up north, when one calls for the Fenians and papists to be kept down, the next one has to call for them to be beat down.