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Barry Cowen sacked

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    #422
    JP Liz V1
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    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Watched a girl dance and had a smoke of a plant.

    That's hardly up with there a drunk driver

    True but not good publicity for FF in their start in government as the main party
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    #423
    Muahahaha
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    NickNickleby wrote: »
    As for his judgement, I prefer the approach that he 'did the maths' and reckoned that by the time he got into the car, the elapsed time and food would have reduced the level to below the limit - got it wrong and got done. So rather than contempt for the law, maybe it was simply a miscalculation. Of course that's just speculation on my part.

    as Kane Toad said above the maths simply dont add up. If he had of had 2 pints before the match and got tested 4 hours later with a meal in his stomach then he would have been fine. Conclusion is that he drunk more than two pints and he is now lying through his teeth in an effort to make his situation look better
    expectationlost wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113943124

    Fair play, that would lbe Cowen breaking the law yet again. And we all know that if you dont have a full license and drive alone all the time then you dont put up L plates. The Gardai have reported on lots of learner drivers doing this. And now we can add Barry Cowen to their list as well.

    What kind of an idiot goes around driving on a provisional licence for decades? Not one fit to be a Minister anyway.


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    #424
    BonnieSituation
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    KaneToad wrote: »
    He claimed to have had 2 pints.
    Then gone to All Ireland final. (2 hours)
    Then had a meal. (1 hour)
    Stopped and breathalysed midway between Dublin/Clara (1 hour)

    All timings above are on the conservative side. So, in 4 hours, he was still over the limit after only having 2 pints...

    They're very conservative.

    I mean, where was he parked on the day?

    Have you ever tried to get out of the area on a match day?

    I posted over in another thread about a similar journey I undertook to Stradbally in Co Laois the day of the SF between Dublin and Kerry in 2013 and I tell ya what... there's details missing from his account.


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    #425
    BonnieSituation
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    Muahahaha wrote: »
    What kind of an idiot goes around driving on a provisional licence for decades? Not one fit to be a Minister anyway.

    I suppose it's ministerial if you're a member of FF.

    I mean, imagine if you were a Minister of Finance and didn't have a bank account...


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    #426
    Millionaire only not
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    I suppose it's ministerial if you're a member of FF.

    I mean, imagine if you were a Minister of Finance and didn't have a bank account...

    That’s funny , well done


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    #427
    GSBellew
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    So FF attack SF over lack of social distancing, but Cowen breaking the law and putting people's lives at risk isn't an issue?

    The SF crowd have ended a lot more lives than minister Cowen.


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    #428
    BonnieSituation
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    GSBellew wrote: »
    The SF crowd have ended a lot more lives than minister Cowen.

    Well that's a new segue.


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    #429
    declanflynn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    I suppose it's ministerial if you're a member of FF.

    I mean, imagine if you were a Minister of Finance and didn't have a bank account...
    jeez I'd forgotten that one.


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    #430
    dundalkfc10
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    GSBellew wrote: »
    The SF crowd have ended a lot more lives than minister Cowen.

    Yes I totally agree, What better way to defend Cowan by saying What about the SF crowd.

    Excellent, straight from the Peter Burke book.


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    #431
    walshb
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    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Watched a girl dance and had a smoke of a plant.

    That's hardly up with there a drunk driver

    If true it’s still law breaking, and if illegal drugs were involved then it’s serious law breaking..


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    #432
    sydthebeat
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    walshb wrote: »
    If true it’s still law breaking, and if illegal drugs were involved then it’s serious law breaking..

    Smoking a joint is not "serious law breaking" no matter how you want to dress it up.

    That law will be broken thousands of times today, and every day.....


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    #433
    BattleCorp
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    walshb wrote: »
    If true it’s still law breaking, and if illegal drugs were involved then it’s serious law breaking..

    There's an awful lot of 'Holier than Thou' people on Boards.

    Cowan broke the law. He's been punished. That should be it.

    Fcuked if I know any able-bodied person who hasn't broken a law here or there, myself included. Should they be fired from their jobs too?

    Move on. There's worse sh1t going on.


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    #434
    _Kaiser_
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    Personally I'm far more interested in who or what is behind the leaking of a 4-year old conviction for which he's served his time. The provisional license thing is a stretch. I'm sure most people drove on a provisional even though they shouldn't.

    Don't get me wrong.. drink driving and not having the correct license are both valid crimes but he was prosecuted and served his ban, right? Why is this coming up now?

    Maybe a better question is, what else is going on/coming that this is to distract us from? (which is normally how these things work)


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    #435
    _Kaiser_
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    BattleCorp wrote: »
    There's an awful lot of 'Holier than Thou' people on Boards.

    Cowan broke the law. He's been punished. That should be it.

    Fcuked if I know any able-bodied person who hasn't broken a law here or there, myself included. Should they be fired from their jobs too?

    Move on. There's worse sh1t going on.

    Well these days it seems you can lose your job just for having the "wrong" opinion on certain topics in some places, so who knows?

    As I said above, I reckon it's a diversionary tactic for something else.


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    #436
    ThewhiteJesus
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    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Watched a girl dance and had a smoke of a plant.

    That's hardly up with there a drunk driver

    you do know there is thousands caught every year in ireland driving over the limit, i'm no fan of the man or party but he hasn't killed anyone, just made a mistake and will pay for it, like thousands of others.


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    #437
    CrankyHaus
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    Did he receive any punishment for driving on a Provisional or was it just for the drink driving?
    Has he gotten a full licence since?

    Drivers who never passed a test zooming around with impunity should have been ended decades ago. When politicians, and perhaps even Ministers, do it they send a subtle endorsement to the many out there who think it's accpetable.


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    #438
    Shefwedfan
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    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Personally I'm far more interested in who or what is behind the leaking of a 4-year old conviction for which he's served his time. The provisional license thing is a stretch. I'm sure most people drove on a provisional even though they shouldn't.

    Don't get me wrong.. drink driving and not having the correct license are both valid crimes but he was prosecuted and served his ban, right? Why is this coming up now?

    Maybe a better question is, what else is going on/coming that this is to distract us from? (which is normally how these things work)

    It’s a rubbish story and just feeding to the selected few of Ireland who all think they are still great wee catholic’s and never do anything wrong

    Cast out the sinner and all that crap

    Guy made a mistake, paid for mistake. End of story.

    Now we have all do Gooder who have nothing going on in their lives been shocked and horrified, let the man do his job, if he is terrible at it then throw him to the wolves

    I see the most vocal are the usuals on every thread, criminals and murders are ok but don’t get caught drunk driving.....


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    #439
    Zebra3
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    When you see so many posters telling us there's nothing to see and move on, I think it's safe to say, there's a lot more to come out....


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    #440
    CrankyHaus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    When you see so many posters telling us there's nothing to see and move on, I think it's safe to say, there's a lot more to come out....


    bUt dE iRa kIllEd pEoPlE


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    #441
    dundalkfc10
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    ThewhiteJesus wrote: »
    you do know there is thousands caught every year in ireland driving over the limit, i'm no fan of the man or party but he hasn't killed anyone, just made a mistake and will pay for it, like thousands of others.

    The thousands are scumbags, each and every one so is anyone who managed to not get caught


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    #442
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    bUt dE iRa kIllEd pEoPlE

    Worra bow de homeless Joe


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    #443
    Edgware
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    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    The thousands are scumbags, each and every one so is anyone who managed to not get caught

    What about the thousands that are not caught?

    Is there anyway we can shame rhem


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    #444
    Shefwedfan
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    When you see so many posters telling us there's nothing to see and move on, I think it's safe to say, there's a lot more to come out....

    What’s to see? Tell us all with your wisdom?


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    #445
    CMCXCV
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    Could you imagine the outrage and outcry if this was a Sinn Fein Minister or party member?


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    #446
    Shefwedfan
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    CMCXCV wrote: »
    Could you imagine the outrage and outcry if this was a Sinn Fein Minister or party member?

    To be honest with SF getting caugh drink driving would be bottom of the list with that lot


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    #447
    CMCXCV
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭CMCXCV


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    To be honest with SF getting caugh drink driving would be bottom of the list with that lot

    In fairness it's a long list now alright, but FF and FG would be making a massive deal about it tho.


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    #448
    Shefwedfan
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    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    The thousands are scumbags, each and every one so is anyone who managed to not get caught

    Spare us the faux outrage, you support a party who run a criminal gang who murder people and cover up for them....


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    #449
    Shefwedfan
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    CMCXCV wrote: »
    In fairness it's a long list now alright, but FF and FG would be making a massive deal about it tho.

    They wouldn’t have to, the list above it is 10 times worse

    If this is the “worst” they can drag up on FF it’s a non story


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    #450
    CMCXCV
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    They wouldn’t have to, the list above it is 10 times worse

    If this is the “worst” they can drag up on FF it’s a non story

    Oh I'm sure there is more to come now. Be like this now for the next month or two.. tit for tat.


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    #451
    CrankyHaus
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    CMCXCV wrote: »
    Could you imagine the outrage and outcry if this was a Sinn Fein Minister or party member?


    How about we hold both to a reasonable standard of accountability and stop the whataboutism on both sides.


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