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Barry Cowen sacked

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    #2042
    Get Real
    Registered Users Posts: 903 ✭✭✭Get Real


    polesheep wrote: »
    Under previous Garda commissioners this would all have been swept under the carpet. Cowan's sacking is not down to politics but the result of having an incorruptible Garda commissioner.

    Drew Harris wasn't Garda commissioner when Cowen was arrested for drink driving, and prosecuted for the offence.


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    #2043
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    I'm confused. :confused:

    All the FFers were telling us a few days ago that this story was over and done with. :o

    It's almost like they haven't a clue. The days of endless backing for their crooks are gone. :pac:

    One would have thought the continuous decline in their vote and the fact that they are now in coalition with their faux enemies would have made them realise times have changed. :D

    Poor Cowen. That sweet, sweet ministerial pension. Only about 700 days short.


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    #2044
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's insane that Cowen got sacked over this. The media and all the idiots on doc so media have too much power these days. World's gone mad.

    Maria Bailey got sacked.

    What's worst?


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    #2045
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Sam Quentin wrote: »
    Sacked.... Social media strikes again.
    I don't think he should've been sacked.

    I do.


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    #2046
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Miriam O'Callaghan really grilling Simon Coveney on RTE1

    Coveney is loving. Loving it.

    He's dying to say " dont vote for those fu kers again"


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    #2047
    jojofizzio
    Registered Users Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Cowen says

    "I am responsible for the offence with which I was convicted 4 years ago not for an inaccurate Garda entry on Pulse about that event. Ten days ago and this afternoon the Taoiseach believed my failure of 2016 didn’t warrant my removal from office but he now appears to have changed his mind based on a Pulse report I gave him this morning. "

    Cowen is spreading the love.

    Jerry,Jerry,Jerry :D:D


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    #2048
    Queasy Tadpole
    Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Queasy Tadpole


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's insane that Cowen got sacked over this. The media and all the idiots on doc so media have too much power these days. World's gone mad.
    Exactly, they are effectively encouraging life long punishment for past transgressions.


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    #2049
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,569 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    cameramonkey wrote:
    Anything?
    Anything with your name on it.


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    #2050
    Plumbthedepths
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    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Cowen says

    "I am responsible for the offence with which I was convicted 4 years ago not for an inaccurate Garda entry on Pulse about that event. Ten days ago and this afternoon the Taoiseach believed my failure of 2016 didn’t warrant my removal from office but he now appears to have changed his mind based on a Pulse report I gave him this morning. "

    Cowen is spreading the love.

    MM did a U turn, should be a familiar manover to Cowen.


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    #2051
    batman75
    Registered Users Posts: 598 ✭✭✭batman75


    His tweet indicates naivety and ignorance if he doesn't understand the seriousness of drink driving. It looks to me like the cabinet has been spared his obviously dubious pearls of wisdom.


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    #2052
    theoneeyedman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    No truck with the Cowans, but this was some shafting, certainly looks like he was set up and knifed in the back by one of his own within the party.

    It's big boys rules I suppose, but what makes it particularly distasteful IMHO is the involvement (not for the first time) of members of the Gardai in politics.

    Stinks of political policing, Mr Harris should root out whoever was involved in this set up.


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    #2053
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,569 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Jinglejangle69 wrote:
    Maria Bailey got sacked.

    What's worst?
    This is what a child comes up with when he does something wrong.


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    #2054
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    I'd say with Drew harris and GSOC now involved whatever Garda accessed this info and leaked it will be turfed out. Rightly so.


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    #2055
    Limpy
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    What's wrong with our police, that's 2 people who had stuff leaked to the press. I thought standards were higher after the whistleblowing fiasco


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    #2056
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,377 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's insane that Cowen got sacked over this. The media and all the idiots on doc so media have too much power these days. World's gone mad.

    Drink driver...

    It’s absurd someone who could get behind the wheel of a car after gargling and drive home. A man of his age, his position, his influence..

    Not some 20 something lad about town here..

    Have you any bloody standards?


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    #2057
    Darc19
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's insane that Cowen got sacked over this. The media and all the idiots on doc so media have too much power these days. World's gone mad.

    It wasn't the actual offense that caused the sacking. It was the subversion and being very less than truthful that caused it.

    He was old dodgy FF and that showed clearly.

    MM should never have given him the position


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    #2058
    Millionaire only not
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    Larry goodman pushed for this , he was going to rattle some feathers . A loss to the farmers and shame on sf but u can’t have any skeletons in the closet when in public life .


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    #2059
    Yurt2
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    Barry needs to fall on his sword with a bit more dignity here. It was no mystery to anyone with a cursory knowledge of the personalities in Leinster House that he wasn't ministerial material. Martin will also have to swallow this one.

    We're off to a bad start and the country doesn't need this farrago.


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    #2060
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    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    No, it is Cowen.
    DellyBelly wrote: »
    Cowan.. I believe
    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Cowen, for some reason.



    We'll settle at Clown :)


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    #2061
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Why was Martin kicking the ball to touch a few hours ago and claiming that the Garda file(which he had seen) did not show what was claimed.

    Something else must have come out.


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    #2062
    Bobtheman
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    batman75 wrote: »
    It's an insult to anyone who lost a loved one to drink driving to have someone convicted of drink driving in the cabinet. It's pretty simple really :)

    He was never before the courts. I'm not even sure it counts as a conviction? It's ok to have people in a cabinet who wrecked the country in 2008? Who allowed gross incompetence? Your sense of morality is quite narrow


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    #2063
    hotrodder
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    As ive said calleary should privately tell him to stick the agriculture ministery up his bollix. And then tell him he will be running for leadership.

    Totally agree. Think it’s time FF got a true leader and not someone looking for a final political trone.


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    #2064
    Zebra3
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    I'd say with Drew harris and GSOC now involved whatever Garda accessed this info and leaked it will be turfed out. Rightly so.

    No proof that's what happened.

    Typical. No respect for AGS. Throwing wild accusations at them.


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    #2065
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,663 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    https://twitter.com/thepaddystore/status/1283140102449963009


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    #2066
    Darc19
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    Pinoy adventure wrote: »
    Will he loose his pension because he was sacked ?

    Pension is now based on time in the position, so unlikely any entitlement has accrued.


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    #2067
    cameramonkey
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Anything with your name on it.


    So even special branch files on an individual would be handed over?


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    #2068
    batman75
    Registered Users Posts: 598 ✭✭✭batman75


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    He was never before the courts. I'm not even sure it counts as a conviction? It's ok to have people in a cabinet who wrecked the country in 2008? Who allowed gross incompetence? Your sense of morality is quite narrow

    Thems that get elected get to be involved in Govt if the chips fall right for them it ain't got nothing to do with morals :)

    I'm sure you remember it was his brother Brian at the helm when the poo hit the fan back in 2009. Ol Bertie bailed out cute hoor!


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    #2069
    Auguste Comte
    Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Auguste Comte


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Nah I like praising myself.

    If I can't noone else will!!

    FF are a shower of snakes and didn't deserve another chance so soon.

    Love them to fall like a deck of cards.

    Now if only leo would do the decent thing and bin his insurance scammer from his party. The lad who produced false fotos to try to scam a few quid from the insurance companies that we all pay for.


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    #2070
    osarusan
    Registered Users Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    batman75 wrote: »
    2. The minute he was offered a ministerial post he should have reflected as to whether there was skeletons in his closet that could come back to haunt him.
    You can be sure that this bothers Micheal Martin most of all - that the party has to take such measures so soon. He must be livid with Cowen.


    Surprised they didn't get him to do a 'I'm resigning to stop this story sidetracking the govt in our important work' statement.


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    #2071
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Limpy wrote: »
    What's wrong with our police, that's 2 people who had stuff leaked to the press. I thought standards were higher after the whistleblowing fiasco

    Exactly. It should be straight forward based on pulse access who viewed this info and leaked it.


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