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Barry Cowen sacked

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    #2582
    hotmail.com
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    Hurrache wrote: »
    Possibly got in touch with one of his local lads with a nudge and a wink thinking it would absolve him when he showed it to Martin. There's a process involved in applying and receiving such a file, which seemed to have been pretty quick in this case.

    It's very odd altogether.

    Will the new Justice Minister clarify the procedures...


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    #2583
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Dara Calleary replaces Cowen in Agriculture

    Who is Whip?


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    #2584
    Sparko
    Registered Users Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Sparko


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Who is Whip?

    Jack Chambers.


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    #2585
    Hodors Appletart
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    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Who is Whip?

    Chambers


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    #2586
    SouthWesterly
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    Calleary get the runner up prize. Says all, about the calibre of the man.
    A junior ministry wasn't enough to serve the country in. He wanted the too job and the paycheck.


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    #2587
    Hurrache
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    It's very odd altogether.

    Will the new Justice Minister clarify the procedures...

    They normally have a month to reply to your request for any personal information they hold on you. I'm not sure what exactly is covered by personal information under such a request, i.e. any notes as to the offence/potential offence they've recorded.


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    #2588
    SeaFields
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    It's very odd altogether.

    Will the new Justice Minister clarify the procedures...

    There'd be no need for minister for justice to clarify procedures. They'll be listed on the Garda website under FOI procedures as they are for all government departments , state bodies. Although in saying that it might have been the wink wink that got it so quickly.


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    #2589
    Floppybits
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    AMKC wrote: »
    I feel very sorry for Barry Cowen. The whole thing is utterly stupid. He made a mistake. It was 4 years ago for fu ck sake. He did not deserve to be sacked. As for Micheal Martin I do not think he is doing a good job so far. The ironic thing is if they had not been in power Barry Cowen would still be a TD.

    If he had told Martin 4 years ago out this and come clean it would have been dealt with and there would be no story and today he would still be a minister. The thing is he didn't do that he kept quiet about and now it has all come out and it as cost him his job as a minister.


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    #2590
    Floppybits
    Registered Users Posts: 7,659 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Sparko wrote: »
    Jack Chambers.

    Anyone else crack up laughing when that was announced. :D


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    #2591
    hotmail.com
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    Chambers gets a hard press for opposing the repeal of the 8th Amendment because he's young and from Dublin.

    I think people need to move on from that.


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    #2592
    hotmail.com
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    SeaFields wrote: »
    There'd be no need for minister for justice to clarify procedures. They'll be listed on the Garda website under FOI procedures as they are for all government departments , state bodies. Although in saying that it might have been the wink wink that got it so quickly.

    Without a doubt.

    It's nicely timed that the new Minister for Justice is no where to be seen at the moment.


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    #2593
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    Floppybits wrote: »
    If he had told Martin 4 years ago out this and come clean it would have been dealt with and there would be no story and today he would still be a minister. The thing is he didn't do that he kept quiet about and now it has all come out and it as cost him his job as a minister.

    not necessarily imo

    if the bit about the shifty behaviour at / near the checkpoint as mentioned in the pulse report came out at any time he could have been fooked. especially if he made a bollix of dealing with it like he did over the last few days.

    even if he came clean and it was as reported by the Sunday Times ->

    you can't be pulling u-turns at garda checkpoints and expect all to be grand when you're appointed a minister in national government.


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    #2594
    Hurrache
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Chambers gets a hard press for opposing the repeal of the 8th Amendment because he's young and from Dublin.

    I think people need to move on from that.

    He's not representative of his age group, has no life experience, has had everything handed to him on a plate, doesn't come up with any policies of his own, has a nasty streak. There's plenty to move onto with this fella.


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    #2595
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Ffs this issue is done. Move on. Are there not more pressing issues at hand?


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    #2596
    McMurphy
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Also, is there a big social media brigade going after this Buckley guy now?

    No, he seems to be getting off relatively unscathed, but that's probably to do with his country cousin from FG Michael Hegarty own troubles with a breathalyser in 2013 leaving those in glass houses unable to throw stones and try to take the high moral ground tbh.


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    #2597
    CrankyHaus
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    Hurrache wrote: »
    Possibly got in touch with one of his local lads with a nudge and a wink thinking it would absolve him when he showed it to Martin. There's a process involved in applying and receiving such a file, which seemed to have been pretty quick in this case.


    I was trying to figure that one out myself;



    On the one hand media reporting on the media was a disgraceful data breach,
    On the other MM saying he saw the file and making vague, unsubstantiated comments on it was absolutely fine.


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    #2598
    Cute Hoor
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Also, is there a big social media brigade going after this Buckley guy now?

    I'm not sure why there would be, he did the crime, got punished, took his punishment, and got on with life, presumably obeying the drink driving and all other driving regulations since.

    I presume the myriad of unanswered (by himself) questions relating to Cowen are not relevant for Buckley. If there were unanswered questions around Buckley would you not expect the rag to be digging.


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    #2599
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Hurrache wrote: »
    The 'leak' is most likely how Cowen himself was given his pulse report.

    No. That's called the freedom of information act.


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    #2600
    Hurrache
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    No. That's called the freedom of information act.

    This is the whole point you're missing, it was remarkably quick.


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    #2601
    Cal4567
    Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭Cal4567


    SouthWesterly wrote: »
    Calleary get the runner up prize. Says all, about the calibre of the man.
    A junior ministry wasn't enough to serve the country in. He wanted the top job and the paycheck.


    If I was in the West, I'd now feel emboldened. We haven't been forgotten. We have our man sitting at the Cabinet table making decisions for us. I'll be walking down Main St in the town tonight with my chest out, proud, the tears will be hard to hold back. We are back!!


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    #2602
    JeffKenna
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    Cal4567 wrote: »
    If I was in the West, I'd now feel emboldened. We haven't been forgotten. We have our man sitting at the Cabinet table making decisions for us. I'll be walking down Main St in the town tonight with my chest out, proud, the tears will be hard to hold back. We are back!!

    Mayo4Sam


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    #2603
    Get Real
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    Cute Hoor wrote: »
    I'm not sure why there would be, he did the crime, got punished, took his punishment, and got on with life, presumably obeying the drink driving and all other driving regulations since.

    Agree with you, and anyone should get a second chance when they own up and are honest.

    Then I see, 4years after that drink driving incident, Buckley was convicted of public intoxication and told Gardaí to fcuk off.

    It needs to get to a certain level for that to happen imo. Perhaps he'd be better off giving the drink a miss. Two strikes now.


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    Cal4567 wrote: »
    If I was in the West, I'd now feel emboldened. We haven't been forgotten. We have our man sitting at the Cabinet table making decisions for us. I'll be walking down Main St in the town tonight with my chest out, proud, the tears will be hard to hold back. We are back!!

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    #2605
    mariaalice
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    Cal4567 wrote: »
    If I was in the West, I'd now feel emboldened. We haven't been forgotten. We have our man sitting at the Cabinet table making decisions for us. I'll be walking down Main St in the town tonight with my chest out, proud, the tears will be hard to hold back. We are back!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMr2QRsW0HU


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    #2606
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    glasso wrote: »
    2203_padraig-flynn_290.jpg

    I'll tell you, you try it some time.


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    #2607
    BonnieSituation
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Chambers gets a hard press for opposing the repeal of the 8th Amendment because he's young and from Dublin.

    I think people need to move on from that.

    Absolutely not.

    Being against repeal was one thing. That's okay, I disagree with it but people are entitled to their opinion on these matters.

    However, like a lot of his party, he voted against having the referendum. He didn't think that the people should have a say in the matter, so for that we should never let him forget about it.
    They're two different matters and he deserves all the stick and opprobrium he gets for it.


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    #2608
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,105 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    glasso wrote: »
    it's pretty obvious who was

    https://gript.ie/thomas-byrne-unconvincing-denial/
    Is there a reason why you keep posting that link on this thread (despite a mod warning telling you to stop)? Do you work for gript or what?


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    #2609
    [Deleted User]
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    gmisk wrote: »
    Is there a reason why you keep posting that link on this thread (despite a mod warning telling you to stop)? Do you work for gript or what?

    didn't see any mod warning.

    why would there be an issue when it's only a link to a an article on another website?

    I have no connection to gript but it seems a fairly convincing argument to me

    are you mates with Thomas Byrne or something or just worried that it shows up FF to be a shower of counts?


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    #2610
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcXENLcrBl0


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    #2611
    angel eyes 2012
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    Cal4567 wrote: »
    If I was in the West, I'd now feel emboldened. We haven't been forgotten. We have our man sitting at the Cabinet table making decisions for us. I'll be walking down Main St in the town tonight with my chest out, proud, the tears will be hard to hold back. We are back!!

    Technically, boy wonder Jack Chambers is also from the west and so are his parents. He is certainly no Dub. He represents my constituency and I can't understand why anyone under 60 would vote for him. I am aware the traditional Fianna Fail vote in Castleknock transferred to him unfortunately.

    Back to Cowen-Gate. Did we ever find out who supplied him with the All Ireland ticket considering plenty of genuine fans were left ticketless; that is another question that he needs to answer!!


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