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SouthWesterly wrote: »Calleary get the runner up prize. Says all, about the calibre of the man.
A junior ministry wasn't enough to serve the country in. He wanted the too job and the paycheck.
Even as a non fianna fail voter ever (and that includes for him or his father before him) I think he got screwed.
Never in the history of the state has the deputy leader of the major governmental party not gotten a senior ministry.
Hell the deputy leader or the coalition partners usually get a ministry.
The deputy leader of the other parties all got ministry.
It was a total slap in the face.
It would be like playing in every game up until the All Ireland final and then being told you are now carrying the kit bags.
Going by your username maybe you are sore because Dillie O'Dea isn't back in
angel eyes 2012 wrote: »Technically, boy wonder Jack Chambers is also from the west and so are his parents. He is certainly no Dub. He represents my constituency and I can't understand why anyone under 60 would vote for him. I am aware the traditional Fianna Fail vote in Castleknock transferred to him unfortunately.
Oh not a true Dub like say Lawlor or Ahern. :rolleyes:Ae Fond Kiss wrote: »Terms like FFer whataboutery are little populist statements made by get ups like yourself.
FF are very much a part of the fabric of this country, they had 41/42% of the national vote in 2002 and 2007. So a lot of posters here voted for them. You presumably were in senior infants and have been repeating ever since.
Along with FG they formed the nation over the past 100 years. Yes they didn't perform well in the last recession. But it was a worldwide one. FG were equally as poor from 1982-1987. There's corruption in all parties. But your little short, selective memory can only see FFers.
Let's take other parties. Labour..not a whole lot to write home about. FG, the big farmers' party, for those who wear the county colours and then city FG, liberal, slick, massive PR machine. A lot of them would like to commemorate the Black n Tans. Is that your party?
Sinn Fein, lacking in talent, pie in the sky policies and fair share with very dodgy connections. Do you vote for them?
FF are no worse or better than any of the others. Just an easy target for the historically illiterate, with too much time on their hands, like you.
Ahhh FFS.
They didn't perform well in the last recession my hole. :mad::mad::mad:
They made the world wide recession 100 times worse in Ireland, because of their policies for the preceding 10 years, where they turned a booming economy based on real jobs into one dependent on cheap credit where an unsustainable amount of the workforce were either in construction or retail.
They based increased public spending on non sustainable tax revenues from retail and construction.
And in the process they allowed and nay encouraged criminal levels of negligence in our lending institutions which resulted in our two main high street banks needing taxpayer funded bailouts, two more banks going to the wall resulting in billions of non performing loans and debts being dumped on present and future taxpayers.
Added to that the developers who had been their bedfellows in the tent in Ballybrit every year swanned off into the sunset, declaring bankruptcy after conveniently more often than not transferring their assets into the names of family members.
Yeah there is corruption in all parties, but by fook fianna fail have PHDs in it.
What other party had a leader that was getting handouts from every major businessman in the state?
What other party had a leader that had unexplained wads of cash handed to him all the while he didn't have a fooking bank account ?
What other state in the world bar a tin pot one would have the minister of finance in the 1990s without a bank account ?
What other party had Liam Lawlor, Padraig Flynn, Ray Burke, Ivor Callely, Denis Foley, John O'Donoghue, Sean Doherty.
WTF everything from phone tapping, planning corruption, licensing corruption, underhanded payments for planning, tax avoidance bank accounts, bogus expenses....I am not allowed discuss …
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BonnieSituation wrote: »Well I've been around these parts long enough to know the signs of a party supporter. Sure, what you say might be true, but your posting style says to me otherwise.
Anyway, I apologise for the fool comment. I should have phrased that better tbh. [corrected]
Oh I know Bowie, but it was a nicely served ball that was easily lobbed back in his direction. Anyway, I guess it worked.
And we can all move on and work out exactly what it was that made MM change his mind. That will be a juicy one.
Fair enough. These cans of Dutch Gold won't drink themselves
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Even as a non fianna fail voter ever (and that includes for him or his father before him) I think he got screwed.
Never in the history of the state has the deputy leader of the major governmental party not gotten a senior ministry.
Hell the deputy leader or the coalition partners usually get a ministry.
The deputy leader of the other parties all got ministry.
It was a total slap in the face.
It would be like playing in every game up until the All Ireland final and then being told you are now carrying the kit bags.
Going by your username maybe you are sore because Dillie O'Dea isn't back in
Like poor David Clarke in 2016 eh?
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