Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

RocketRaccoon

weldoninhio wrote: »

What if you are working til 10/11pm?

Tough ****.

Ronan|Raven

weldoninhio wrote: »

What if you are working til 10/11pm?

Then tough ****.

AdamD

gmisk wrote: »

I'm guessing 3 hours less pissed so less likely to forget hand washing, social distancing etc?

Eh, shouldn't the time limit take care of that?

Anyways, what this will actually do is push people towards house parties. Especially if pubs become super strict about the actual rules. The novelty of going made them busy, but 105 minutes and having to buy food will eventually stop people going.

I can see why they want pubs and clubs closed, but young people will continue to socialise, whether people try to shame it or not.

hetuzozaho

weldoninhio wrote: »

What if you are working til 10/11pm?

11pm will still apply

joeguevara

afro man wrote: »

This from the same government tellin people to staycation in Ireland.. I can only imagine how many people would have booked staycations before kids back to school and planned them for after 10th August on belief pubs and hotel bars would all be open again..

You do know that pubs who serve food are still open. But here’s a thought, a holiday doesn’t mean that you have to be in the hotel bar for the day with the kids.

JPCN1

BPKS wrote: »

It doesnt effect the people in NPHET making the decisions as they have plenty of choice and plenty of spare dosh to have their substantial meal to go along with their €18 G&T.

Oh don't worry about them, that'll be expensed and we'll pick up the tab.

Ronan|Raven

JPCN1 wrote: »

Oh don't worry about them, that'll be expensed and we'll pick up the tab.

I heard they are ordering double pheasant and chips such are their notions and contempt for the TAX PAYER

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

What if you are working til 10/11pm?

Nobody works until 10 or 11pm every day so that’s no argument really.

Jim Root

BPKS wrote: »

It doesnt effect the people in NPHET making the decisions as they have plenty of choice and plenty of spare dosh to have their substantial meal to go along with their €18 G&T.

Well I’d say they worked and studied pretty hard to get into those jobs so far dues to them if they can afford an €18 drink.

Phishnet

Phishnet wrote: »

Question:
How many people current in intensive care in Ireland with covid 19?

Answer:
Under 10

WHO: No vaccine for Covid 19 for the next 2 and a half years and maybe there will never be one.
.

I think the WHO have proven themselves to be nothing but jokers.

The vaccine is in the hands of huge business now, it’ll arrive before that.

Coillte_Bhoy

almostover wrote: »

You cant have one rule for some pubs and other rules for other pubs. It's like Danny Healy Rae looking to get an exemption for drink driving for old lads in the countryside to have a few pints and drive home slowly. People from urban areas will flock to rural pubs if they are allowed open.

Why would they? there are plenty of pubs open in urban areas

MOH

So we have pubs that are closed, have identified once of the main sources of transmission as house parties, so the solution is to keep the pubs closed.
Meanwhile next door:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/03/english-pubs-likely-to-be-spared-new-covid-19-restrictions-no-10-says

gmisk

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Exactly you can't unless you control the borders our lockdown is being squandered. Control of the borders means mask would only be required for maybe a few weeks and we can go back to normal.

Our hospitals haven't coped in years, winter is looking like a complete calamity waiting to happen.

So you admit masks can help but you still refer to them as muzzles? A few weeks won't work....it hasn't been the case in other countries.

They coped well during large amount of cases earlier in year they won't if seasonal flus etc surge later in year along with corona virus admissions.

MOH

MOH wrote: »

So we have pubs that are closed, have identified once of the main sources of transmission as house parties, so the solution is to keep the pubs closed.
Meanwhile next door:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/03/english-pubs-likely-to-be-spared-new-covid-19-restrictions-no-10-says

They’re hardly what anyone is striving to emulate.

hmmm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

So if this level of cases is not “good enough” for pubs to be back open when will they????

It's not about the level of cases, it's the direction they are heading in.

Our case numbers are rising, and our 7 day average is nearly double what it was a week ago. If this pattern continues, reopening schools is at risk also.

If case numbers start falling, there is room to reopen more. We can all contribute to this by social distancing, wearing masks etc.

Coillte_Bhoy

SusieBlue wrote: »

The audacity of the government imposing these illogical rules on us while allowing plane & ferry loads of tourists in from virus hotspots on the daily is beyond frustrating.

There are 26 European flights landing in Dublin airport alone between 8pm and midnight tonight, these cannot possibly all be Irish citizens repatriating after lockdown. Yet we can’t stay in bars/restaurants after 11pm and we have to buy a €9 sandwich, to ‘help the fight’ against corona.

How is this helping, and who is this helping?
This is going to be the nail in the coffin for many business owners and it’s extremely unfair that they are the ones suffering the consequences for the poor judgment and leadership of the government.

There is absolutely no logical reasons that pubs cannot safely open with 2 hour slots and table service, as food serving pubs and restaurants have been doing for the last month.
I would be apoplectic if I owned a pub right now, seeing my business be sacrificed while the country is full of tourists and the government are doing nothing to stop it.

The fact that they are allowing non essential incoming and outgoing travel while imposing all these nonsensical regulations is sheer stupidity of the highest order. Talking outside both sides of their mouth as usual.
What a total shambles.

You'll back this up with figures, yeah?

Del Griffith

It'll be house parties for me so, couldn't be ****ed with that €9 sh*te

MadYaker

MOH wrote: »

So we have pubs that are closed, have identified once of the main sources of transmission as house parties, so the solution is to keep the pubs closed.
Meanwhile next door:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/03/english-pubs-likely-to-be-spared-new-covid-19-restrictions-no-10-says

Are you saying we should copy the brits? You won't find much support for that here.

weldoninhio

Jim Root wrote: »

Well I’d say they worked and studied pretty hard to get into those jobs so far dues to them if they can afford an €18 drink.

Yeah, like our former health minister. What did he study again? What year was it he dropped out? Second I believe.

vafankillar

most pubs that serve food aren't following protocol anyway except a few bits of virtue signaling nonsense, geuinely dont understand why smaller pubs haven't tried to do the same, and organized a deal with a local food business or just microwaved or toasted some sandwhiches or whatever for display in case the garda show up

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Del Griffith wrote: »

It'll be house parties for me so, couldn't be ****ed with that €9 sh*te

Really. If you can't go to the pub you'll risk community health by going to house parties??

hmmm

Del Griffith wrote: »

It'll be house parties for me so, couldn't be ****ed with that €9 sh*te

More house parties and we'll be going back to phase 2.

s1ippy

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Nobody works until 10 or 11pm every day so that’s no argument really.

Oh my actual brain.

There's no data on this from Ireland because we're very special, but in America, 3% of the workforce work nights:
https://consumer.healthday.com/encyclopedia/work-and-health-41/occupational-health-news-507/shift-workers-646677.html

And in the UK, it's close to 12%.
https://www.tuc.org.uk/news/number-people-working-night-shifts-more-150000-5-years

Can't you think of all the occupations this applies to?

Dravokivich

MOH wrote: »

So we have pubs that are closed, have identified once of the main sources of transmission as house parties, so the solution is to keep the pubs closed.
Meanwhile next door:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/03/english-pubs-likely-to-be-spared-new-covid-19-restrictions-no-10-says

You do understand, that if people went to pubs, instead, they would have contact with more people right?

MOH

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

They’re hardly what anyone is striving to emulate.

MadYaker wrote: »

Are you saying we should copy the brits? You won't find much support for that here.

Are you saying we shouldn't focus on limiting house parties just because that would be "copying the brits".

My point was that even one of the countries that has made the biggest balls of the whole thing is targeting an issue we're ignoring, while instead we use pubs as a handy scapegoat.

I've avoided house parties a few times, but if that's going to me my only social interaction with friends, then sod it at this stage. Given the complete lack of competence of the powers that be, we're all pretty much fooked anyway. Especially once the schools go back.

AdamD

hmmm wrote: »

More house parties factories and we'll be going back to phase 2.

Fixed that for you

hmmm

AdamD wrote: »

Fixed that for you

We need factories. We don't need house parties or pubs or restaurants or non-food shops. If people don't act responsibly, the government will have to start closing down all the non-essential stuff again until the numbers improve.

eggy81

hmmm wrote: »

We need factories. We don't need house parties or pubs or restaurants or non-food shops. If people don't act responsibly, the government will have to start closing down all the non-essential stuff again until the numbers improve.

You don't. Some people do.

drunkmonkey

gmisk wrote: »

So you admit masks can help but you still refer to them as muzzles? A few weeks won't work....it hasn't been the case in other countries.

They coped well during large amount of cases earlier in year they won't if seasonal flus etc surge later in year along with corona virus admissions.

They can if used properly, there not being used properly, it's farsical. Putting one on says you agree with the current government strategy, I didn't go through lockdown just to be told afterwards we didn't need to as masks are the plan. It's a bum plan by a bum government.

We're only getting seasonal flu with open borders, we won't know what's what in a few months, is it flu, cold, covid, it's going to be a mess if we keep the current plan of mask up, it's not the solution.

You still didn't answer my question, How long are you prepared to wear a mask?

SusieBlue

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

You'll back this up with figures, yeah?

Well we have 26 flights landing in Dublin over the next 4 hours alone.
I just checked the arrivals on the airport website, and there are 112 flights landing tomorrow, including flights from Boston, Chicago, two New York flights, Doha and Dubai.
There are numerous French and Spanish flights, as well as other known hotspots.

112 flights cannot possibly be filled with repatriating Irish citizens.
They can’t all be travelling for essential reasons.
And 112 incoming flights in one day is an absolute disgrace when they are still preventing industries from owning up.

I have also seen tourists locally myself, over the weekend I saw a few groups of Americans at a local tourist spot taking pictures and my brother served a group of lads from London here on a stag in the restaurant he works in too.

They are here and it’s happening. It’s a kick in the teeth for the businesses who are looking at another month of being closed while they let god knows who into the country with no fcuks given.