Fire at Nantes Cathedral

Das Reich

And some people wondering why Duda won in Poland...

4068ac1elhodqr

Must have stumbled into the architecture thread by accident, with all these re-quoted pictures.
Architecture is cool! Well, just so long as it isn't burnt down.

DelaneyIn

Eason Warm Ufo wrote: »

Must have stumbled into the architecture thread by accident, with all these re-quoted pictures.
Architecture is cool! Well, just so long as it isn't burnt down.

Are churches in Poland spontaneously combusting like in other parts of mainland Europe?

Muahahaha

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I've driven past that place loads of times and always make a mental note to look it up and always forget afterwards. So now I know, thanks!

If you're living in Vegas you should definitely try to take a tour of it, AFAIK you have to email the hospital in advance as they're limited. Same architect did the Walt Disney Concert Hall in LA, another building well worth a gander

1800_Ladladlad

excludedbin wrote: »

Aha, that was quite sneaky! Completely changing your post while I was responding! Can't say I'm surprised that someone like yourself would do that. Can't have people drawing attention to your agenda now, can we?

Yes I did change it because it was a stupid response to a poster like yourself tbh Now I suggest you go on and feed those engineers fleeing terror staying in direct provision centres.

1800_Ladladlad

This is The Cathedral Basilica of Our Lady of Amiens. The larget gothic cathedral. It hasn't had a fire for more than 750 years. If the French have any sense, they'll keep an eye on this as an accident might happen ..........


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Wayne Gorsky

Another one...seems to be a (very worrying) trend in France in recent years…

TheValeyard

Eason Warm Ufo wrote: »

Figures released by French police showed that 875 of France’s churches were vandalised last year.
A further 129 churches reported thefts from the premises, the interior ministry said that 59 cemeteries were also vandalised.
Every day, at least two churches are profaned.

It does look like a constant and orchestrated series of attacks.
Bear in mind just two weeks ago Safiyya Shaikh got locked up for life, for her plans to destory St Paul's Cathedral in London.

Huge rise with attacks on churches and statues of Jesus in America in places like Florida. You would begin to wonder any connection between the two. Or just a coincidence.

stinkypinky

excludedbin wrote: »

Oh God, here come the conspiracy theories already...

Just know the higher ups in the EU and national governments are relying on this type of delusion and gullibility - you're providing an invaluable service. They knew years ago if not a decade ago a big mistake had been made.

stinkypinky

TheValeyard wrote: »

Huge rise with attacks on churches and statues of Jesus in America in places like Florida. You would begin to wonder any connection between the two. Or just a coincidence.

I think in France it's more to do with religion and in the US disruptive commi scrotes.

nofiller69

Severe mental illness, paranoid delusions and religion are quite apparently intertwined

excludedbin

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Yes I did change it because it was a stupid response to a poster like yourself tbh Now I suggest you go on and feed those engineers fleeing terror staying in direct provision centres.

Yeah, accusing someone of being an NGO shill because they don't go over for racist conspiracies is pretty stupid alright. I can see why you felt the need to remove that kind of idiotic accusation. And now the equally stupid "doctors and engineers" bit like we haven't heard that a hundred times before.

Good grief, I'm starting to fully see what I'm dealing with here.

stinkypinky wrote: »

Just know the higher ups in the EU and national governments are relying on this type of delusion and gullibility - you're providing an invaluable service. They knew years ago if not a decade ago a big mistake had been made.

excludedbin wrote: »

That's the worst thing about conspiracy theories - by their nature, the true believers will never accept evidence to the contrary. They'll claim it's been manufactured by the conspirators and you're either one of them or a witless dupe in their scehemes.

I'll just let this one speak for itself.

DelaneyIn

excludedbin wrote: »

Never ones to let a good tragedy go to waste, of course. Can't actually wait until the facts come out, oh no, not when you've got immigrants to hate!

A refugee is suspected of being responsible for the fire.

PARIS (Reuters) - A 39-year-old man has been arrested in connection with a fire in the 15th century cathedral in the French city of Nantes that blew out stained glass windows and destroyed the grand organ, TV channel LCI reported on Sunday.

The man, a Rwandan refugee, worked as a volunteer for the cathedral and had been in charge of locking up the building on Friday night, LCI said, citing prosecutor Pierre Sennes.

Sennes said the man in custody was being held to clear up inconsistencies in his schedule.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-france-nantes-fire-cathedral-idUKKCN24K0AK?utm_source=reddit.com

If guilty, upon his release from prison he should be deported.

Galwayguy35

DelaneyIn wrote: »

A refugee is suspected of being responsible for the fire.



https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-france-nantes-fire-cathedral-idUKKCN24K0AK?utm_source=reddit.com

If guilty, upon his release from prison he should be deported.

So he was given the chance to make a good life for himself in a safe prosperous country and destroys a beautiful building in return for this act of kindness.

Pkiernan

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

So he was given the chance to make a good life for himself in a safe prosperous country and destroys a beautiful building in return for this act of kindness.

But its obviously the systems fault.

splashuum

Rwandan refugee arrested for deliberately starting 3 different fires from the inside of the St Peters and Pauls cathedral. This seems to be a common occurrence throughout France over the past 18 months. Many are still pondering on how the Notre Dame set ablaze.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/07/19/african-migrant-arrested-after-fire-guts-nantes-cathedral/

For those of you looking for a reputable source:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53462790

One eyed Jack

splashuum wrote: »

Rwandan refugee arrested for deliberately starting 3 different fires from the inside of the St Peters and Pauls cathedral. This seems to be a common occurrence throughout France over the past 18 months. Many are still pondering on how the Notre Dame set ablaze.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/07/19/african-migrant-arrested-after-fire-guts-nantes-cathedral/

Dude, seriously?


From your own link -


Prosecutors said it would be “premature and hasty” to brand the migrant, who was apparently responsible for locking the cathedral up the day before the fire, as an arsonist.

It appears he was taken into custody because there are inconsistencies in his timetable — but Nantes public prosecutor Pierre Sennès has stressed that this is “normal procedure” and that, so far, the authorities are not working under the assumption that he started the blaze.

Rodney Bathgate

Now that is a surprise.

splashuum

The man was in charge of locking up the cathedral. He was in some way at fault.

Gruffalux

splashuum wrote: »

The man was in charge of locking up the cathedral. He was in some way at fault.

We don't know that. I find it hard to believe that someone minding the place everyday would try to destroy it.

splashuum

Gruffalox wrote: »

We don't know that. I find it hard to believe that someone minding the place everyday would try to destroy it.

If he didn't start the fire himself, he was still responsible in the secure lock up of the cathedral.

excludedbin

Even when the authorities have said they don't suspect him as starting it, those pushing an agenda still try to find some way to blame him.

Absolutely pathetic. I'm sure they won't have anything to say about it, once they've seeded the lie.

Alrigghtythen

Horrible thing to have done.

One eyed Jack

splashuum wrote: »

If he didn't start the fire himself, he was still responsible in the secure lock up of the cathedral.

Right, and the person who started the fire is responsible for starting the fire.

At least we’ve cleared that much up.

4068ac1elhodqr

excludedbin wrote: »

Even when the authorities have said they don't suspect him as starting it...

Clearly they must have some reasonable suspicion, in order to arrest the chap.

Do you now believe there is a 'conspiracy at hand'? - To unfairly blame this person (even though he hasn't even been charged as yet).
Do you think the authorities are simply being racist? - To investigate this matter.

The 39-year-old Rwandan refugee who worked as a volunteer for the cathedral and had been in charge of locking up the building on Friday night. He is arrested and being questioned as authorities stated there was inconsistencies in his schedule. There was also no sign of forced entry to the premises when the fire is estimated to have started, just before 7am.

All sounds like very reasonable grounds to question him further, does it not?

2u2me

Eason Warm Ufo wrote: »

Clearly they must have some reasonable suspicion, in order to arrest the chap.

Do you now believe there is a 'conspiracy at hand'? - To unfairly blame this person (even though he hasn't even been charged as yet).
Do you think the authorities are simply being racist? - To investigate this matter.

The 39-year-old Rwandan refugee who worked as a volunteer for the cathedral and had been in charge of locking up the building on Friday night. He is arrested and being questioned as authorities stated there was inconsistencies in his schedule. There was also no sign of forced entry to the premises when the fire is estimated to have started, just before 7am.

All sounds like very reasonable grounds to question him further, does it not?

Also the authorities have a very good reason to downplay his arrest. The fact that people automatically jump to 'he burned it down himself' is quite disingenuous. Isn't the phrase 'inside man' quite clear and well defined; and rather possible here as it is a common occurence in such cases.

SPDUB

Eason Warm Ufo wrote: »

Clearly they must have some reasonable suspicion, in order to arrest the chap.

Not really .

In most cases that are high profile like this or crashes involving large trucks on motorways the standard operating procedure nowadays appears to be arrest the person at the centre of it and then work out their involvement .

4068ac1elhodqr

SPDUB wrote: »

Not really .
In most cases that are high profile like this or crashes involving large trucks on motorways the standard operating procedure nowadays appears to be arrest the person at the centre of it and then work out their involvement .

Surely this would classed as 'helping police with their inquiries', or 'brought in (voluntary) for questioning' rather than the need for an actual recorded arrest. Then again the French may have their own way of doing things.

DelaneyIn

French article ~ https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/incendie-de-la-cathedrale-de-nantes-un-homme-aurait-ete-place-en-garde-a-vue-20200719

Translation:
Fire in Nantes Cathedral: a man has been taken into police custody

A 39-year-old Rwandan national was arrested on the day of the fire. According to the prosecutor, there is nothing at present to "implicate him in the commission of the facts".

A 39-year-old man from Rwanda was arrested in connection with the investigation into the "arson" of Nantes cathedral. He was arrested on Saturday 18 July and taken into police custody.

The reasons for his arrest are currently unknown. However, according to RTL, he is a Rwandan refugee working for the diocese who has reportedly expressed anger about his expired visa. According to information from the public prosecutor's office, the man was taken into custody because of inconsistencies discovered in his schedule. The suspect had been instructed to close the cathedral the day before the fire. The investigators would therefore like to hear from this man "on the conditions under which the cathedral was closed".

"At this stage, it is a question of verifications, there is nothing to implicate him in the commission of the fire", assured the public prosecutor of Nantes, Pierre Sennès. "It is necessary to remain cautious as to the interpretation of this police custody, it is a normal procedure," the magistrate stressed.

Questioned on the first elements of the investigation, the prosecutor confirmed the arrival Saturday afternoon of fire experts from the forensic laboratory.

A lot of migrant crimes have a common component, that their right to stay has expired or been refused or that they’re unhappy with what the state provides. It would seem a good idea to deport them, as they don't really have much to lose once they're told that.