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Limpy

Feisar wrote: »

Does anyone remember the woman down in Waterford/Wexford about ten years ago that posted vids/pics of herself online, Ashling was her name I think? From memory she ended up having to move away I think due to the hassle she got. Things seem to have moved since then in society and I suppose as it becomes more widespread there will be less of a hoo haa over it. Still though it cannot help ones long term prospects to be dildoing oneself online.

Then there's the problem of having to keep pushing the envelope in terms of the content. An Irish woman will attract a certain level of attention due to their not being to many Irish on it. The novelty of being subscribed to someone from the next county over will draw a certain following. But then subscribers start dropping and the person will have to start doing more and more stuff to keep the money coming in.
Brushed on above there is a certain novelty attached to having a connection of sorts with the person in the vids. I know from getting illicit pics from ladies I found them way more erotic than any porn I have watched. So to automatically call someone sad for being subscribed to an onlyfans account is a bit unfair. I presume one can send messages etc so it's probably part of the allure.

As for selling oneself, sure we do it all the time. I have a stressful enough job, work long hours and travel a lot so what's the difference?

Having said that I wouldn't want anyone belonging to me at it however everyone needs to follow their own path. I do agree with others here, a lot of naive people at it. Also the majority of sex workers come from shítty/broken families/homes, I do wonder if it is the same with the onlyfans crowd. Ever hear a pornstar being interviewed? A lot of them sound barely functional.

I think everyone's idea of the sex industry is a dirty one, pardon the pun. Its been going on for decades. The overriding factor is its women doing things to arouse men for money. Or men dominating women, again to sell and make cash.

The question is a moral one, do you want your wife, daughter, sister to make money with a vibrator while men watch and **** into a sock, or do you want them to work in another industry.

I am not old fashioned and I would prefer them to work in another industry. My wife agrees.

BorneTobyWilde

They were talking about it on the jennifer zamparelli show on 2FM earlier. Jennifer was egging Lottie Ryan to set up an account, Jennifer seemed to be all for it, cheering her on. She also had a guest on who does it, she makes 20k a month average. Said all her stuff is explicit hardcore. Jennifer again cheering her on, it's all bit weird. 17 years old, child, so wrong, so criminal, clock strikes midnight boom 18 Happy Birthday, same person, same day gets an only fans and is cheered on by Jennifer.
Who decided in history that the magical number 18 dictates so much?

I think they should up the age to 25 for sites like OF.

Feisar

Feisar wrote: »

Ever hear a pornstar being interviewed? A lot of them sound barely functional.

You can say the same about "a lot of" footballers musicians bouncers soldiers and much more too.

I guess the first question to ask is how and why did they select the person they did. For example if I was contriving to do an anti-porn documentary I am likely to select the stars who will represent the industry poorly.

RTE did a documentary on Sex Work and they picked one pro sex worker and one anti ex-sex worker. The sex worker they picked for the pro star was energetic and engaging and articulate and intelligent and charismatic and very likable. The anti woman they picked was inarticulate and dour and boring and unlikable and had a very obvious man hating agenda.

I doubt their selection was random either. If I was anti sex work I would be really pissed at RTE for deliberately picking someone so awful to represent that side.

Many sex workers and porn stars however are intelligent and articulate. Sasha Grey springs to mind as a retired porn star who now has a stream on "twitch". Paige Jennings who moved from porn to You Tube and did/does quite well there. I do not know either of them for porn - but what they did after it.

So I would say sex work and porn are like many industries and services. Some people there are educated and articulate and others are uneducated and-or idiots.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

RTE did a documentary on Sex Work and they picked one pro sex worker and one anti ex-sex worker. The sex worker they picked for the pro star was energetic and engaging and articulate and intelligent and charismatic and very likable.
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Did you see her being interviewed by Tommy Tiernan though?..Her shtick rang hollow..

Feisar

Limpy wrote: »

I think everyone's idea of the sex industry is a dirty one, pardon the pun. Its been going on for decades. The overriding factor is its women doing things to arouse men for money. Or men dominating women, again to sell and make cash.

The question is a moral one, do you want your wife, daughter, sister to make money with a vibrator while men watch and **** into a sock, or do you want them to work in another industry.

I am not old fashioned and I would prefer them to work in another industry. My wife agrees.

Wife or daughter no. While my sis, I'd be concerned but not my choice/decision.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Did you see her being interviewed by Tommy Tiernan though?..Her shtick rang hollow..

That would be my point exactly. When you are making a documentry you do editing and other things to make _your_ point look good. So just like the makers of the RTE doc made the "pro" woman seem better than she was and probably made the "anti" woman worse (not sure as things I read about her later such as banning men entirely from a rally supporting women seemed to confirm everything) - when the user above mentioned how awful some interviews were I have to wonder how many of those interviews were made to look bad too.

Tommy Tiernans show - which I have not seen much of since I do not have a television - struck me as being a bit "rawer" and less pre-prepared. As in WYSIWYG. So it seems that format would make it harder to deliberately make someone seem better or worse than they actually are.

But no I did not see it so I can not agree or disagree with your vague statement about the content.

Pigsaw

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And whatever choice they make - be it a career in science or in law or in medicine or in politics or in the army or in education or in sex work or anything else - if they make the choice of their own volitions using the tools I gave them - then I will be proud of them, I will be proud of their choice, and I will consider myself a success as a father.

If your child ends up as prostitute then you've failed massively as a parent.

Pigsaw

spook_cook wrote: »

You do have to laugh at the amount of people on-board with this because of fear of being seen as "old fashioned" Imagine the horror!

I'll be controversial then. I wouldn't let my wife or be happy with my hypothetical daughters prostituting themselves. If you are, well that's on you.

Not wanting your daughter to prostitute herself doesn't make you controversial, it makes you a normal man.

Pigsaw

Pigsaw wrote: »

If your child ends up as prostitute then you've failed massively as a parent.

You might feel that way but I do not. And your standards that you hold yourself to when evaluating yourself as a parent are not standards I have to live by or even care about to be honest.

Once again I do not see my role as a parent to be to get my child into - or keep my child out of - any industry or service when he or she is an adult. As an adult that will be - and should absolutely be - their choice.

I see my role as a parent to be to equip them with every tool possible to make those choices _for themselves_ when they are of age. And if they make their choices or their own volition using those tools then I will judge by success as a parent by that - and not by whether I ultimately like or personally approve of the choice they make.

I would be a wreck if _other_ peoples judgements of parenting concerned me at all to be honest. I get judged for all sorts of things negatively. That I have been teaching my kids to fight martial arts since they were 2. That my daughter who is now 10 has been learning to fire guns/rifles for years. That we raise them with an unusual configuration of parents. Hell some people judge me negatively because my kids never did the Santa thing and we do not own a television!

I have as little time for their standards of parenting as they have for mine. And I am good with that.

Pigsaw

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You might feel that way but I do not. And your standards that you hold yourself to when evaluating yourself as a parent are not standards I have to live by or even care about to be honest.

Once again I do not see my role as a parent to be to get my child into - or keep my child out of - any industry or service when he or she is an adult. As an adult that will be - and should absolutely be - their choice.

I see my role as a parent to be to equip them with every tool possible to make those choices _for themselves_ when they are of age. And if they make their choices or their own volition using those tools then I will judge by success as a parent by that - and not by whether I ultimately like or personally approve of the choice they make.

Part of your job as father is to protect your child and keep them from making poor decisions in life.

Get real man, if your child ends up selling their body then you failed.

Church on Tuesday

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Gra-nny?

Again, so what? There's a good chance that kids today are far less hung up on sex and nudity than you are.


How can you be sure about that? Have you spoken to many of them, or are you just projecting your own values onto other people?


If they don't want to see naked images, then they shouldn't be browsing OF. Problem solved.

Lad you would argue with your shadow.

Quite a lot of women on OF tend to be late teens or early 20s, I think most of us here will admit that at that age we hadn't a clue what we were doing nor particularly cared about any ramifications further down the line. Until you do care when you step out into the real world.

My values are mine alone; I don't really care what a person does with their body. I'm not a prude and I'm entitled to my opinion just like you are. If you don't like what I have to say then feel free to stick me on ignore.

Pigsaw

Pigsaw wrote: »

Part of your job as father is to protect your child and keep them from making poor decisions in life.

Again I do not see it that way. What might be a "poor" decision for me might be the "right" decision for them.

So again - my role is to give them the best tools to make their decisions for themselves. Not to judge for them what the right decisions or wrong decisions are.

Pigsaw wrote: »

Get real man, if your child ends up selling their body then you failed.

Oh well if your point fails - but you repeat it entirely but by simple adding "get real man" before it - sure then the point is made infinitely stronger. Or something?

You are just restating what I already rebutted here.

EmmetSpiceland

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sasha Grey springs to mind as a retired porn star who now has a stream on "twitch".

Careful there, T. Someone will be along to tell you that she is a terrible person because she “blocks” users for posting her personal details and bringing up things she doesn’t want to talk about.

Sounds fair enough to me but some people really do “scrape” the barrel for reasons to hate on women.

EmmetSpiceland

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Careful there, A. Someone will be along to tell you that she is a terrible person

Hah. Maybe she is I know next to nothing about her except the work she now does. And I only know that because I recently decided to browse around twitch for a few hours for the first time

My point was that whether she is a wonderful person or an absolutely horrible person - she is certainly articulate and functional and successful which was a contrast to the point of the user I was replying to.

Pigsaw

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Again I do not see it that way. What might be a "poor" decision for me might be the "right" decision for them.

So again - my role is to give them the best tools to make their decisions for themselves. Not to judge for them what the right decisions or wrong decisions are.



Oh well if your point fails - but you repeat it entirely but by simple adding "get real man" before it - sure then the point is made infinitely stronger. Or something?

You are just restating what I already rebutted here.

So your daughter, who I'm sure you love and treasure, ends up in a whorehouse getting f*cked by 20 drunks a day. You'd be ok with that?

EmmetSpiceland

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hah. Maybe she is I know next to nothing about her except the work she now does. And I only know that because I recently decided to browse around twitch for a few hours for the first time

My point was that whether she is a wonderful person or an absolutely horrible person - she is certainly articulate and functional and successful which was a contrast to the point of the user I was replying to.

I only recognised her from her role on the TV show ‘Entourage’, which she was pretty good in.

Reckon the “issue” with most on here is that there is a strong dislike, and resentment, towards woman being successful or taking control of their lives.

Pigsaw

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Actually, I'd say the reverse is true - there's so much of this stuff out there that it will be impossible to find anything in the future - needle in the haystack, hidden in pain sight.
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Very naive view of the internet.

Pigsaw

Pigsaw wrote: »

So your daughter, who I'm sure you love and treasure, ends up in a whorehouse getting f*cked by 20 drunks a day. You'd be ok with that?

It depends what you mean by "ok with that". There are any number of careers I would _personally_ prefer my kids do not get into. I would not like them to be front line marines in an army for example. I would not like them to spend their lives cleaning toilets or flipping McDonalds hamburgers. I would not like them to be the people who go around repossessing the property of poor unfortunate people who could not make their bills. I would not like to see them be a reality TV star on some of the crass reality shows TV has today. Given the hard life - bad pay - and physical agony I probably would not want my daughter to be a ballerina either.

My role as a parent however is to separate myself from what I do or do not want them to become personally - and to ensure they have the right tools to make those decisions for themselves when the time comes. To support them as best I can in the decisions they make. And if they decide they made the wrong decision - to support them the best I can in back tracking and finding a new path in their life.

What I am "ok with" or not I see my role as a parent to be to keep out of many parts of the equation. Ultimately as a parent I have one goal - that they forge a life for themselves that makes _them_ happy. And I will use every tool in my arsenal to ensure they can do that effectively. Whether that be as a neuro surgeon - a McDonalds burger flipper - or a sex worker.

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There's not a hope the irish girl is making 20k a month

Pigsaw

I'd rather my daughter flips burgers than spend all day getting fcuked and abused by men in the brothel.

Guess I'm old fashioned.

Meilani Full Soloist

Meilani Full Soloist wrote: »

There's not a hope the irish girl is making 20k a month

Ah you never know. "Irish" sells well. Be it in our sexier women - or in Muscians like Van Morrison who cashed in quite well on selling good music but also the mystical side of his irish heritage to the Americas. I would not jump to believe the 20k figure - but I would not rush to disbelieve it either without some evidence.

EmmetSpiceland

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I only recognised her from her role on the TV show ‘Entourage’, which she was pretty good in.

Reckon the “issue” with most on here is that there is a strong dislike, and resentment, towards woman being successful or taking control of their lives.

Here's the knight with his abundance of quotation marks.

There are some valid criticisms and concerns with choices women make without it being resentment and certainly without being sexist.

It is concerning how you seem to invent sexism and misogyny where none exists.

Pigsaw

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Here's the knight with his abundance of quotation marks.

There are some valid criticisms and concerns with choices women make without it being resentment and certainly without being sexist.

It is concerning how you seem to invent sexism and misogyny where none exists.

Bet he gets laid like a rockstar. Nothing sexier than a white knight.

Pigsaw

Pigsaw wrote: »

I'd rather my daughter flips burgers than spend all day getting fcuked and abused by men in the brothel.

Guess I'm old fashioned.

That's fine. You do you! Notice how I am not judging your standards or saying you are wrong or throwing our empty "get real man" statements that add nothing?

Clearly we have different metrics by which we judge our role as a parent. And that is fine.

Again my metric is simple. I want my children to be happy with _their_ choices for _their_ lives. If they do that - then what I would personally "rather" could not be less relevant to me.

All I can do as a parent is give them the best education and other tools to achieve that. And I think I train and educate my kids rather well - especially if I allow myself to compare to other parents I see who - many of them - do bugger all aside from ensuring they get to school each day.

My daughter is barely 10 and she has a high standard in martial arts - dance - can fire guns - can do all kinds of electric work and car repair - helps me in home farming - plays music - writes - helps with charity work - has a good circle of friends - meditates - does science with me as a hobby - and much more.

If she gets to 18 and chooses sex work then I have little doubt based on her current development that she will do so for the right reasons and of her own volition and for her own happiness.

Pigsaw

Not gonna bother quoting you post Tax. We obviously have very different viewpoints on what makes a good father. I would consider preventing your child from considering prostitution to be pretty basic stuff.

seamus

Pigsaw wrote: »

Not gonna bother quoting you post Tax. We obviously have very different viewpoints on what makes a good father. I would consider preventing your child from considering prostitution to be pretty basic stuff.

The problem is that you're presuming all women who choose sex work do so out of extreme desperation and that all sex work is violent encounters with disrespectful scumbags.

This is largely the basis of the lobby that seeks to criminalise sex work, and ironically exactly the attitude that causes sex work to be a dangerous and taboo profession.

Pigsaw

Pigsaw wrote: »

Not gonna bother quoting you post Tax. We obviously have very different viewpoints on what makes a good father. I would consider preventing your child from considering prostitution to be pretty basic stuff.

Sounds almost like mind control to me. Not my bag to be honest. Whatever I do think my role as a parent might be or not be - the idea that I could stop them "considering" anything in the privacy of their own free mind is pretty out there.

Our kids are going to think about - and consider - all kinds of things we might not like. The best we can do is ensure they have the best possible software running on their neck-top computers to run when considering anything in their life.

I am not there to mould or forge my child's life for them. They have to do that for themselves and I have to accept their choices are going to be their choices. All I can do as a parent is ensure they are as capable as possible when making such decisions. And I will judge my success as a parent in how well I achieve that. Not in what _their_ choices ultimately turn out to be.

All I want is for them to be happy. I would prefer my child be happy having sex with 200 people a year then to be the worlds top neuro-surgeon and to be absolutely miserable in it. I care that they are happy. With few exceptions I do not care about the _how_ they get there.

Pigsaw

seamus wrote: »

The problem is that you're presuming all women who choose sex work do so out of extreme desperation and that all sex work is violent encounters with disrespectful scumbags.

Most of them are. Plenty of prostitutes available on escorts Ireland right now. Weird how they're still choosing to whore during a pandemic?

Feisar

Deleted User wrote: »

Hah. Maybe she is I know next to nothing about her except the work she now does. And I only know that because I recently decided to browse around twitch for a few hours for the first time

My point was that whether she is a wonderful person or an absolutely horrible person - she is certainly articulate and functional and successful which was a contrast to the point of the user I was replying to.

And point taken, especially as regards a documentary having a slant. However I'm not wrong in terms of the types of upbringings most sex workers would have had.

HotDudeLife

Deleted User wrote: »

That's fine. You do you! Notice how I am not judging your standards or saying you are wrong or throwing our empty "get real man" statements that add nothing?

Clearly we have different metrics by which we judge our role as a parent. And that is fine.

Again my metric is simple. I want my children to be happy with _their_ choices for _their_ lives. If they do that - then what I would personally "rather" could not be less relevant to me.

All I can do as a parent is give them the best education and other tools to achieve that. And I think I train and educate my kids rather well - especially if I allow myself to compare to other parents I see who - many of them - do bugger all aside from ensuring they get to school each day.

My daughter is barely 10 and she has a high standard in martial arts - dance - can fire guns - can do all kinds of electric work and car repair - helps me in home farming - plays music - writes - helps with charity work - has a good circle of friends - meditates - does science with me as a hobby - and much more.

If she gets to 18 and chooses sex work then I have little doubt based on her current development that she will do so for the right reasons and of her own volition and for her own happiness.

I don't even know where to begin, i am assuming troll because i never encounter such delusional brain washed feminine men IRL.

HotDudeLife

spook_cook wrote: »

Unless they're shipping all their money to some e-girl

But you are onto something, we're what about a decade away from realistic sex bots and VR and all that jazz? Then the simp eco-system could move away from funding online women. What will they do then?

The government might be forced to bail out e-girls.

#BrazzersLifesMatter

HotDudeLife

Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

BorneTobyWilde

Meilani Full Soloist wrote: »

There's not a hope the irish girl is making 20k a month

It's like a tax in a way, 2500 Subs paying a lousy 10$ a month. Not at if two guys are giving her 10 grand each.
It's a numbers game. The girl in the corner shop is selling to the people on the corner.

The girl with the OF account is selling to a world wide audience of 8 Billion, from Australia, to Alaska, The Congo to Paris, that's the draw

Feisar

HotDudeLife wrote: »

I don't even know where to begin, i am assuming troll because i never encounter such delusional brain washed feminine men IRL.

By the sounds of it he's doing everything he can to raise a child the best way he can.
What's feminine about his POV?

HotDudeLife

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

In fairness to Tax, I think his posts on this topic have been quite reasonable and not an entirely unhealthy attitude to have.

And this is coming from me, who has been painted as some alt right monster by some of the usual suspects around here so I don't see how you took that from what was said. I haven't read the whole thread so maybe i missed something.

B.A._Baracus

There's a term called "mark"
- In professional wrestling it was a derogatory term, used by those within the business, to describe fans. Ie, fans who thought it was real = Marks. The term in wrestling is still around but has since been expanded upon.
- In magic and con-artists, it's defined as a "subject for a con game"
- It originated in Carnival games (a slang) in America over 100+ years ago.


So with that said, if you pay anyone on OnlyFans or cam girls or anything like that. You are a mark.

paw patrol

Pigsaw wrote: »

If your child ends up as prostitute then you've failed massively as a parent.

although we are on the same side of the argument on this thread , i don't agree that an adult child's choice are a reflection of your parenting.
You can't be accountable for another's choices even if they are your child - once they become an adult.

Pigsaw

Pigsaw wrote: »

Most of them are.

Citations needed.

Pigsaw wrote: »

Plenty of prostitutes available on escorts Ireland right now. Weird how they're still choosing to whore during a pandemic?

Perhaps what is "weird" is assuming that they see their work any different to anyone else? Most of us seem to want to continue to do the work that we do during the pandemic.

I do not see a sex worker wanting to keep working as being any more or less weird than a masseuse doing so - or a hair dresser - or a bar man - or anyone else.

Feisar

Feisar wrote: »

And point taken, especially as regards a documentary having a slant. However I'm not wrong in terms of the types of upbringings most sex workers would have had.

I do not know without actual figures rather than opinions.

But even then I wonder how much of it is "self selecting". We often push sex work into the black market by making it taboo or illegal. By doing this we select for particular people.

But sex work as a whole is too diverse to make sweeping comments. Especially if we are commenting on all porn as well. There is simply too much diversity there.

Remember even without the incentive of money many men and women do things like porn for _free_ solely because they actually want to do it and enjoy it. There are whole sites (Newbie nudes is the only one I know by name - only because it is the first one I ever encountered so the name stuck - but there are many many more) dedicated to people making porn for all to see - for absolutely no financial incentive at all. Many of them do it because they want to do it. Which makes the narrative of people doing it for money only doing so out of desperation a little harder to swallow whole. Many people in porn would probably make the porn even if they were not being paid for it.

RedDeadRedemption is a you tuber who was a sex worker. She has a video on why she quit sex work. She identified problems in the industry that drove her away in the end. But she was clear that she did the work too because she enjoyed it and had a lot of fun doing it. She sees it as a good industry with bad things that need fixing. But many industries and services can be described that way can they not? The article I linked to before from the "top paid" irish sex worker too - she was clear it was her choice and she was happy with it.

The best we can do as a society is ensure that people do not get into sex work for the wrong reasons. And to best support people who want out of it. But I would say that about any work. I do not see getting into sex work as a tradgedy. I see spending your life doing work you want to get out of - or never wanted to get into - as a tradgedy. So an ideal for me is a society where people can change career path as easily as possible. I support anything that promotes that ideal.

But I do not think we get there if we make too many assumptions about the people - or their backgrounds - who get into any particular work. They are as diverse as the people in any other industry. The Army always springs to mind as an example there. Many people like to think of marines as meat heads who couldnt make it anywhere else for example. Many in fact likely are. But an hour listening to Jokko Willink would divest them of that generalised assumption. He is more educated and intelligent and articulate that most posters on this forum myself included. So are many sex workers and porn stars. So are some people in McDonalds or cleaning toilets.

HotDudeLife

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

I have never expressed that position anywhere no. Straw man much ?

I actually take it as a compliment on the strength of my position that the best you can do against it is ignore it entirely - and attack a completely unrelated tangent that has nothing to do with me other than you signing my name to it.

IAMAMORON

It never ceases to amaze me how the biggest critics of sex workers and/or anyone connected to the pornographic industry are actually people who never facilitate it. Like what do they know?

I have discussed sex work with many people ( men and women ) who have worked in the industry first hand. A majority of them just see it as a job. They would all agree that it toughens the soul a little and some of them have developed very strict social benchmarks as a result. But all of them are rational normal human beings.

It is the anti prostitution lobby such as Ruhama and other right wing feminist groups who are constantly rolling out disaffected former workers and waving them around like pawns in the wind. The same old mantra, look at what happens to you if you get involved with sex work.

Most rational workers I know are well aware that, you get in, and then you get out. Make your money while you can and then get on with your life. They are rational and shrewd about what they are doing.

IAMAMORON

HotDudeLife wrote: »

I don't even know where to begin, i am assuming troll because i never encounter such delusional brain washed feminine men IRL.

HotDudeLife wrote: »

#BrazzersLifesMatter

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

JohnnyFlash

Lot of literal **** around if sites like these are doing good business. Lonely men sitting at home playing with themselves.

The internet was a terrible invention in many ways.

paw patrol

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Lot of literal **** around if sites like these are doing good business. Lonely men sitting at home playing with themselves.

The internet was a terrible invention in many ways.

I admire your shamelessness in getting your emmetspice account to continually like your posts even after you have been rumbled (think it was omackeral deserves the hat tip)


another post by flash, another anti-male slant..you need to get a new hobby

Ted_YNWA

HotDudeLife wrote: »

I don't even know where to begin, i am assuming troll because i never encounter such delusional brain washed feminine men IRL.

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Posters like Tax would want you to believe gender is a social construct, these people are dangerous to humanity.

Mod

taxAHcruel has been posting civilly on thread here. You should be able to too. There is no need to stoop to personal attacks just because you disagree with their views. Attack the post, not the poster.

JohnnyFlash

paw patrol wrote: »

I admire your shamelessness in getting your emmetspice account to continually like your posts even after you have been rumbled (think it was omackeral deserves the hat tip)


another post by flash, another anti-male slant..you need to get a new hobby

I can’t help who likes my posts. What part of what I said is wrong? What is the target market for porn? It’s lonely and sad young men who masturbate to it. Many of them have to watch increasingly graphic porn to get their kicks, and develop extremely nasty views on women as a result.

I’m not anti-male at all. I’m a fine example of one myself.

All I’m saying is there’s nothing sexually liberating or liberal in general about trying to pull the flute off yourself to porn. It’s lonely, grotty; and sad. It’s the cynical exploitation of the performer and the viewer.

sonofenoch

Any pics of the OP?

Pigsaw

paw patrol wrote: »

although we are on the same side of the argument on this thread , i don't agree that an adult child's choice are a reflection of your parenting.
You can't be accountable for another's choices even if they are your child - once they become an adult.

My issue with Tax is his complete indifference to his daughter's future. He has no problem with her ending up in a brothel. Insane.

Pigsaw

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Citations needed.



Perhaps what is "weird" is assuming that they see their work any different to anyone else? Most of us seem to want to continue to do the work that we do during the pandemic.

I do not see a sex worker wanting to keep working as being any more or less weird than a masseuse doing so - or a hair dresser - or a bar man - or anyone else.

Stupid comparison, beyond stupid. Why would a woman have sex with multiple men every day in a pandemic? She's almost guaranteed to get infected.

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JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I can’t help who likes my posts. What part of what I said is wrong? What is the target market for porn? It’s lonely and sad young men who masturbate to it. Many of them have to watch increasingly graphic porn to get their kicks, and develop extremely nasty views on women as a result.

I’m not anti-male at all. I’m a fine example of one myself.

All I’m saying is there’s nothing sexually liberating or liberal in general about trying to pull the flute off yourself to porn. It’s lonely, grotty; and sad. It’s the cynical exploitation of the performer and the viewer.

I also have a very poor opinion of the porn industry but you are very naive to think it's only men using porn.