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IAMAMORON

Pigsaw wrote: »

I also have a very poor opinion of the porn industry but you are very naive to think it's only men using porn.

Some women do look at it, but it is not all that common. Women, in general, have a different scope when it comes to sexual arousal and what turns them on.

It is far more common for women to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel and find that titillating. They tend to not dig hardcore pornography.

I have never met many women all that into pornography, even homosexual women. Whereas men of all persuasions are invariably goggle eyed over it.

I am not saying they don't appreciate it, or even use pornography. But many women that I have know are not into it at all. Nothing to the same prolificacy as your average male.

Pigsaw

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Some women do look at it, but it is not all that common. Women, in general, have a different scope when it comes to sexual arousal and what turns them on.

It is far more common for women to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel and find that titillating. They tend to not dig hardcore pornography.

What, you think young women are getting their kicks from romance novels?

What decade are you posting from? The 1950s?

Mister Vain

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I can’t help who likes my posts. What part of what I said is wrong? What is the target market for porn? It’s lonely and sad young men who masturbate to it. Many of them have to watch increasingly graphic porn to get their kicks, and develop extremely nasty views on women as a result.

I’m not anti-male at all. I’m a fine example of one myself.

All I’m saying is there’s nothing sexually liberating or liberal in general about trying to pull the flute off yourself to porn. It’s lonely, grotty; and sad. It’s the cynical exploitation of the performer and the viewer.

It's easy to say that but what percentage of porn watchers are actually like that though? Would you say they're a majority or a minority? My guess would be the latter.

Pigsaw

Mister Vain wrote: »

It's easy to say that but what percentage of porn watchers are actually like that though? Would you say they're a majority or a minority? My guess would be the latter.

Some articles I've seen say women are more likely to search for the extreme stuff on Pornhub.

Pigsaw

Pigsaw wrote: »

My issue with Tax is his complete indifference to his daughter's future.

Not one post I have made indictate or claim any such thing. Do you just strawman when you can not rebut things I say - or do you just do it for the sake of things? Or do you just imagine that if peoples concerns for the future are not identical to yours - that they must have no concerns?

Pigsaw wrote: »

He has no problem with her ending up in a brothel. Insane.

Also not what I said. What I actually said was that any problems I do - or do not - have with it would be irrelevant if it was _her_ choice and she was happy with her choices. Because her happiness is what is valuable to me - not her conforming to my views of what she should or should not do with her life.

Pigsaw wrote: »

Stupid comparison, beyond stupid. Why would a woman have sex with multiple sex every day in a pandemic? She's almost guaranteed to get infected.

So are people who work in nursing homes it seems. Yet they went to work anyway.

So shouting "stupid" at something does not magically make it stupid. In fact I think shouting "stupid" at things just means you have nothing to actually say.

But stupid or not - that does not change the answer. Many people want to work. They want to continue to work even during a pandemic. Whatever their work may be. You might think it "stupid" - but whether it is or not - it still is what it is.

IAMAMORON

Pigsaw wrote: »

What, you think young women are getting their kicks from romance novels?

What decade are you posting from? The 1950s?

Pretty much.

Most women i know find pornography revolting. They prefer moaning about unrequited crushes or the fact that they can't get the spends together for a pair of shoes they fancy.

Women tend to not stay awake at night surfing the web looking for mickey. It is different for women who want sex, in fact a lot different.

IAMAMORON

Pigsaw wrote: »

Some articles I've seen say women are more likely to search for the extreme stuff on Pornhub.

Elaborate on extreme stuff please?

Pigsaw

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So are people who work in nursing homes it seems. Yet they went to work anyway.

So shouting "stupid" at something does not magically make it stupid. In fact I think shouting "stupid" at things just means you have nothing to actually say.

But stupid or not - that does not change the answer. Many people want to work. They want to continue to work even during a pandemic. Whatever their work may be. You might think it "stupid" - but whether it is or not - it still is what it is.

Now you're comparing nursing home staff with prostitutes? You realise their job is to look after elderly people? That they take every precaution to avoid spreading the infection? Also they can quit any time they want?

You can't see how having sex with multiple strangers everyday during a pandemic would be a bad idea? In fact it would be so monumentally stupid that you would only do it if you were forced to do it or had a drug habit to pay for?

Pigsaw

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Pretty much.

Most women i know find pornography revolting. They prefer moaning about unrequited crushes or the fact that they can't get the spends together for a pair of shoes they fancy.

Women tend to not stay awake at night surfing the web looking for mickey. It is different for women who want sex, in fact a lot different.

I guess the women you know are aged 60+

You think women who've grown up with the internet aren't watching porn? Why? Why wouldn't they watch porn when they get horny?

Pigsaw

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Elaborate on extreme stuff please?

Use your imagination.

Mister Vain

Pigsaw wrote: »

Use your imagination.

Your imagination? Shur how would you do that if your mind has been destroyed after all that extreme porn. :pac:

IAMAMORON

Pigsaw wrote: »

Use your imagination.

I would prefer if you did, just a little.

Bye.

Feisar

Pigsaw wrote: »

Use your imagination.

!!! Imagination, there be monsters.

Pigsaw

Pigsaw wrote: »

Now you're comparing nursing home staff with prostitutes?

You are back to claiming I said things I never did again it seems. Though I see you have now simply dropped some of those and moved on quietly.

I am not comparing anyone to anyone. I am saying that many people - regardless of their career - want to continue to work even when you personally might not.

Pigsaw wrote: »

You can't see how having sex with multiple strangers everyday during a pandemic would be a bad idea?

Irrelevant. Your statement was that it was "weird" that they would want to keep working. I have offered an example of a reason why they might do so. I never said the example was a good idea. I never said it was a bad idea. I just say that it is one possible reason why it is not all that "weird" at all.

Pigsaw wrote: »

In fact it would be so monumentally stupid that you would only do it if you were forced to do it or had a drug habit to pay for?

So not content with putting words and ideas and things in my mouth that I never said - you are now pretending to know their motivations too? I suggested another possible motive. Only one of us is pretending ours is the correct one or "only" one however.

There is actually only one set of people who can tell us why sex workers choose to keep working during a pandemic. The sex workers. No one should take my guesses seriously and they certainly shouldn't yours. We are both just guessing.

Potential-Monke

I was going to do a detailed response, but I'm not going to feed the obvious trolls. Sad people with sad and ancient views...

AdrianBalboa

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I was going to do a detailed response, but I'm not going to feed the obvious trolls. Sad people with sad and ancient views...

The world weeps for what could have been.

TheDenialTwist

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Some women do look at it, but it is not all that common. Women, in general, have a different scope when it comes to sexual arousal and what turns them on.

It is far more common for women to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel and find that titillating. They tend to not dig hardcore pornography.

I have never met many women all that into pornography, even homosexual women. Whereas men of all persuasions are invariably goggle eyed over it.

I am not saying they don't appreciate it, or even use pornography. But many women that I have know are not into it at all. Nothing to the same prolificacy as your average male.

"far more common (for women) to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel". Really? What era are you living in? Or more importantly what era are these females you speak of living in?

I presume the post is a joke? Or you've been misinformed by these women perhaps.

As a female, with an extremely healthy sex drive. If I'm single or my partner has gone away or my rabbit has run out of batteries, what is a girl to do? Well according to your post... I guess I'll just order a romantic novel tonight and wait a week for it to arrive and delay gratification until then? As opposed to just putting on some porn. Great logic there. Makes absolute sense

I don't know what kind of females you're interacting with, at home "fingering" the pages of their romantic novels eagerly anticipating when the climax to the story will "come". Maybe page 69 :pac:

I certainly won't be ordering an "erotic novel" ever

TheDenialTwist

Pigsaw wrote: »

What, you think young women are getting their kicks from romance novels?

What decade are you posting from? The 1950s?

100% this

IAMAMORON

TheDenialTwist wrote: »

"far more common (for women) to enjoy a romantic or erotic novel". Really? What era are you living in? Or more importantly what era are these females you speak of living in?

I presume the post is a joke? Or you've been misinformed by these women perhaps.

As a female, with an extremely healthy sex drive. If I'm single or my partner has gone away or my rabbit has run out of batteries, what is a girl to do? Well according to your post... I guess I'll just order a romantic novel tonight and wait a week for it to arrive and delay gratification until then? As opposed to just putting on some porn. Great logic there. Makes absolute sense

I don't know what kind of females you're interacting with, at home "fingering" the pages of their romantic novels eagerly anticipating when the climax to the story will "come". Maybe page 69 :pac:

I certainly won't be ordering an "erotic novel" ever

I am pleased for you.

Knock yourself out.

What is your favourite type of porn?

JohnnyFlash

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I was going to do a detailed response, but I'm not going to feed the obvious trolls. Sad people with sad and ancient views...

If this is addressed to me, then I'd like to suggest that my views are in fact quite modern and liberal.

It's my understanding that this Onlyfans things is a way for men to pay for mostly nude photographs of attractive women. That it's mostly softcore or erotic content. I'm relatively ok with that - it's a bit like lads buying Juggs or Hooters magazine in the 80's. The women are also well paid.

What's rather more depressing is the proliferation of free hardcore porn on the internet. Jon Ronson had a wonderful podcast last year called the Butterfly Effect that touched on many of the negative aspects of hardcore porn and those tube sites - young men sitting at home masturbating while having no real human contact, vulnerable young women arriving in LA and being fired back out a few months later with a drug addiction and a prolapsed anus, directors speaking about having to produce every more extreme and violent content to satisfy the needs of their fans, sociopathic directors and 'male talent' who actually love abusing women on screen.

Grim, depressing, and symptomatic of some sort of wider malaise in society.

AndrewJRenko

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Lot of literal **** around if sites like these are doing good business. Lonely men sitting at home playing with themselves.

The internet was a terrible invention in many ways.

Lots of non-lonely men sitting at home playing with themselves too. Most men masturbate, whether lonely or not, or in a relationship or not.

It doesn't make you go blind.

Pigsaw

Pigsaw wrote: »

My issue with Tax is his complete indifference to his daughter's future. He has no problem with her ending up in a brothel. Insane.

That's not a fair representation of what he said.

PsychoPete

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Lots of non-lonely men sitting at home playing with themselves too. Most men masturbate, whether lonely or not, or in a relationship or not.

It doesn't make you go blind.

Humans are perverts just wanting to masturbate and I'm okay with that

TheDenialTwist

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I am pleased for you.

Knock yourself out.

What is your favourite type of porn?

I don't require you to be pleased for me that I don't conform to your obviously antiquated and misinformed post.

What is your favourite type of romantic novel? :rolleyes:

IAMAMORON

TheDenialTwist wrote: »

I don't require you to be pleased for me that I don't conform to your obviously antiquated and misinformed post.

What is your favourite type of romantic novel? :rolleyes:

I am a Mills n Boon junckie tbh. I love them.

I tend to turn on some slow set ballads and soft progressive rock. I put the heat on and have myself an early night. I will hoover and clean my room also before tucking myself into bed !!!!! mmmmmmmm.

TheDenialTwist

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Lots of non-lonely men sitting at home playing with themselves too. Most men masturbate, whether lonely or not, or in a relationship or not.

It doesn't make you go blind.

Same goes for us females, it's normal and healthy. Whether in a relationship or not.

TheDenialTwist

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I am a Mills n Boon junckie tbh. I love them.

I tend to turn on some slow set ballads and soft progressive rock. I put the heat on and have myself an early night. I will hoover and clean my room also before tucking myself into bed !!!!! mmmmmmmm.

It was a rhetorical question :rolleyes:

As another poster said plenty of sad people on here with "ancient views".

I'm sure you think your retort post is hilariously funny and witty. It's neither. It's boring and it's what is to be expected from any troll.

If anything, at best your post is a sad reflection of antiquated views regarding women watching porn.

Oh and you must be creaming yourself now, you got a like from your alter ego.

Knock yourself out :pac:

IAMAMORON

TheDenialTwist wrote: »

Oh and you must be creaming yourself now, you got a like from your alter ego.

Now you are just being uncouth. How vulgar.

Tut tut.

TheDenialTwist

Pigsaw wrote: »

I guess the women you know are aged 60+

You think women who've grown up with the internet aren't watching porn? Why? Why wouldn't they watch porn when they get horny?

Precisely, why wouldn't we watch porn?

The post suggesting we (girls) are trawling through our granny's book collection looking for some romantic novel to get off to when horny just beggars belief

It's sad to think there are guys out there that think girls are getting off by reading pages of a novel with sticky fingers :rolleyes:

Let's get real here. I doubt these guys know many girls if that's their belief.

AndrewJRenko

"spook_cook wrote: »

But you are onto something, we're what about a decade away from realistic sex bots and VR and all that jazz?

Which is another good reason why Granny's old porn content will be about as exciting and relevant to her grandchildren as an old sepia-tone photo of our granny at the beach in her long legged bathing costume is to us.

HotDudeLife

Porn is one of the worst addictions out there

IAMAMORON

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Porn is one of the worst addictions out there

I would say you can't get enough of it.

Good luck.

HotDudeLife

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I would say you can't get enough of it.

Good luck.

Haven't watched any material intentionally (content sent into watsapp group and auto plays etc) since 2013, it's destructive to the human physic and energy, if i was extremely religious i would say it was designed by the devil.


Now when i think of porn i wonder why i used to have an urge to watch other men banging beautiful women when i could just do that myself IRL.



If anyone reading this is struggling with this issue or just going through a tough time i highly recommend reading content on this website and watch their documentary about the negative effects of consuming porn.



www.yourbrainonporn.com

EmmetSpiceland

HotDudeLife wrote: »

If anyone reading this is struggling with this issue or just going through a tough time i highly recommend reading content on this website and watch their documentary about the negative effects of consuming porn.



www.yourbrainonporn.com

What if you don’t “use” pornography, you just enjoy erotica?

HotDudeLife

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

What if you don’t “use” pornography, you just enjoy erotica?

it's still bad

IAMAMORON

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Haven't watched any material intentionally (content sent into watsapp group and auto plays etc) since 2013, it's destructive to the human physic and energy, if i was extremely religious i would say it was designed by the devil.


Now when i think of porn i wonder why i used to have an urge to watch other men banging beautiful women when i could just do that myself IRL.



If anyone reading this is struggling with this issue or just going through a tough time i highly recommend reading content on this website and watch their documentary about the negative effects of consuming porn.



www.yourbrainonporn.com

I am abstaining from inter-sexual relationships during lockdown. I live with people who are vulnerable if they became infected. This has led to an incredible amount of masturbation, I have a mammoth libido.

I find porn quite enjoyable to watch as it happens. I also do not necessarily masturbate every time I watch it. Sometimes I quite enjoy browsing through different clips, it can be very soothing.

I also really enjoy a good hardcore erotic novel. With proper pornographic literature that viscerally describes sexual acts, I find them enthralling and really enjoyable.

Kimbot

Shocker.... both men and women masturbate to porn :O

Dammit, there goes all my fantasies about women reading erotic novels

HotDudeLife

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I am abstaining from inter-sexual relationships during lockdown. I live with people who are vulnerable if they became infected. This has led to an incredible amount of masturbation, I have a mammoth libido.

I find porn quite enjoyable to watch as it happens. I also do not necessarily masturbate every time I watch it. Sometimes I quite enjoy browsing through different clips, it can be very soothing.

I also really enjoy a good hardcore erotic novel. With proper pornographic literature that viscerally describes sexual acts, I find them enthralling and really enjoyable.

Each to their own.


My life improved tenfold since i quit, maybe it doesn't negatively impact others like it did to myself (even though i wasn't obsessed it still screwed me up).

IAMAMORON

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Each to their own.


My life improved tenfold since i quit, maybe it doesn't negatively impact others like it did to myself (even though i wasn't obsessed it still screwed me up).

How did your life improve?

What are the negative impacts you are hoping to eliminate from your life?

IAMAMORON

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I am abstaining from inter-sexual relationships during lockdown. I live with people who are vulnerable if they became infected. This has led to an incredible amount of masturbation, I have a mammoth libido.
......

Don't you claim to be married?

IAMAMORON

Augeo wrote: »

Don't you claim to be married?

I never knew you cared? How flattering.

Tell me, do you prefer erotic novels or mpegs of drizzling scat?

HotDudeLife

IAMAMORON wrote: »

How did your life improve?

What are the negative impacts you are hoping to eliminate from your life?

The negatives have been eliminated since i quit.



It warped my perception of reality and i felt like sh!t after i would consume it, also energy levels would drop substantially (even though i've been weight training/running for 20 years). My results with women went through the roof afterwards as my confidence went up.



One of the side effect since quitting is now is i am too sensitive to sexual material/situations, not uncommon to get a boner in a lift if a somewhat attractive bird walks in.

HotDudeLife

HotDudeLife wrote: »

The negatives have been eliminated since i quit.

It is a bit like anything really. Say - alcohol. If you are interacting with alcohol in an unhealthy way - or you have some underlying condition that is exacerbated by alcohol - then when you stop using it you will feel great.

Which is fine. But if you then go around telling everyone else they will have the same effect from quitting - you would likely be talking nonsense for most people.

Similarly if you had an unhealthy relationship with porn and-or masturbation - or if you have some underlying hormonal condition you do not know about that is exacerbated by the hormone changed masturbation and porn cause - then quitting is a great thing for you to do.

But what the "nofap" and "yourbrainonporn" nonsense tries to do is claim that because people like yourself benefit from abstience that everyone else will or should too. And quite the opposite is true. Most people will see no benefits from stopping either I would guess. And some people will fare worse.

All that said though if pornography can "warp your sense of reality" - and I genuinely can not imagine how that is even possible - then it might be worth exploring through introspection or with a medical mental health professional as to whether your grasp of - or link to - reality might be for some other reasons tenuous to start with. Again - undiagnosed underlying issues can be a thing.

IAMAMORON

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I never knew you cared? How flattering.
....

Just a query

IAMAMORON

Deleted User wrote: »

All that said though if pornography can "warp your sense of reality" - and I genuinely can not imagine how that is even possible - then it might be worth exploring through introspection or with a medical mental health professional as to whether your grasp of - or link to - reality might be for some other reasons tenuous to start with. Again - undiagnosed underlying issues can be a thing.

On the contrary it would certainly be capable of sending mixed messages about what the opposite sex is after. Although the lines, whilst blurred, can be extremely tenuous.

I mean, it has been a long time since I managed to perform group sex with an 18 year old 1st year college student who also happens to be party to a bit of double penetration, deep throat oral, scat games, slapping and humiliation?

Some of these types can be thin on the ground when I am out and about on the pull. Just saying like.

As I said Sounds like a tenuous grip on reality was there to start with if that was the thinking it led you to.

That said though I think "mixed messages" and "warped sense of reality" don't quite ring as being remotely the same thing to me.

It always amazes me though that people can watch all kinds of fiction on television and Hollywood without getting their sense of reality warped. They do not get their sense of conflict resolution from James Bond as one person said for example. Yet somehow when watching porn we are meant to believe that some significant quantity of people suddenly turn off all critical faculty and act like this is reality.

Are there _some_ people who can't watch porn or other fiction without it ringing as reality to them? I am sure there are. I am not buying the idea these people exist in droves or any statistically significant groupings though.

There is also the whole chicken and egg thing to consider. Is porn causing people to get mixed up ideas about the opposite sex? Or is porn more likely to attract people who already have issues with the opposite sex? I would caution assuming causality in either direction without more data.

IAMAMORON

I think its' access and availability can be open to scrutinisation. I mean the days of having to rent a blue movie from your local video store are now over. That did involve a certain degree of humility in fairness. The walk of shame.

Anyone saying that they cannot differentiate between porn and reality should really be not doing either, imo. As I said I have yet to meet many 19 year old debutantes who enjoy screaming out loud and demanding anal after 15 minutes. Although the search continues, in earnest.

purplecow1977

Don't understand why they can't just get a job in Centra at weekends like I did.

Montage of Feck

stefanovich wrote: »

Onlyfans is disgusting. A manifestation of everything wrong with today's world. Pathethic incels giving money to superficial bimbos.

It used to be the talent getting exploited by seedy types and usually ending up in a bad place. A reversal of this can only be seen as an improvement.

Greyfox

purplecow1977 wrote: »

Don't understand why they can't just get a job in Centra at weekends like I did.

Simple really, a lot more money for less work