Opinions on onlyfans and adult entertainment industry

sbsquarepants

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I can't see why it would be so difficult to pass a law that states, if child porn turns up on a server owned by "X" then X is guilty of distributing child porn unless they can prove they took every reasonable and available step to block it in the first instance, and remove it in the second instance, should they have honestly failed to block it.

Because most people don't "buy" a server, they use a cloud hosting service. These services could have a million or more clients, or billions in the case of Amazon.

Also the server could be in Outer Mongolia paid for with bitcoin or something. Very hard to trace and enforce. Not saying we shouldn't try, absolutely we should, but it isn't as easy as you seem to think.

kippy

Deleted User wrote: »

Because most people don't "buy" a server, they use a cloud hosting service. These services could have a million or more clients, or billions in the case of Amazon.

Also the server could be in Outer Mongolia paid for with bitcoin or something. Very hard to trace and enforce. Not saying we shouldn't try, absolutely we should, but it isn't as easy as you seem to think.

None of these services (Amazon) and the likes, should be accepting payments in bitcoing and/or provisioning services to individuals or companies they cannot verify the identity/bona fides of.
Reputible providers (including Amazon as far as I am aware) do have requirements in place to make sure the identies of their customers are known to them.

But you are correct, these things are not as easily policied/enforced as many would think, which does of course not mean that more could be done.
It has to be a "global" effort to imrpove things but that is a very difficult thing to do.

hynesie08

Deleted User wrote: »

Can someone explain to me how there was a centralised repository of private pics and videos or whatever that thousands of women only shared with their boyfriends that suddenly got released?

Something doesn't add up. I'm an old guy in IT, I understand the IT side but am clueless about this OnlyFans stuff.

I believe it's image farming, using either app permissions or just people trusting repairmen with their passwords......

As for something not adding up, I agree, admittedly I live in a fairly insular bubble, but I've seen nor heard a single thing about this until now. I'm hesitant to say it's an attempt to get revenge porn laws pushed through. But I wouldn't be surprised if this all mysteriously dissappears as soon as they do.......

BorneTobyWilde

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Except that's not what happened.

Private, intimate photos of her when she was under age, or a child, were leaked without her permission. Her OF site came later.

But thanks for making excuses for the lads jerking off to child pornography.

That's some knowledge of the events mate.



As for bit in bold, what de fck are you on about. Any kid who gets on OF's and produces and distributes CP on a commercial scale and sells it's to those purchasing it puts other kids in danger.
They're breaking the law, and should also be getting a visit from the guards.

BorneTobyWilde

montyrebel wrote: »

i hope all those women reporting to the gardai have their taxes up to date from this paid work

Yep , and any under age person who willingly got on OFs and willingly produced and distributed Cp should face action too.
Lessons need to be learned, make an example

AndrewJRenko

hynesie08 wrote: »

I'm hesitant to say it's an attempt to get revenge porn laws pushed through. But I wouldn't be surprised if this all mysteriously dissappears as soon as they do.......

This is the forum you want for that.

https://touch.boards.ie/forum/576

AndrewJRenko

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

That's some knowledge of the events mate.



As for bit in bold, what de fck are you on about. Any kid who gets on OF's and produces and distributes CP on a commercial scale and sells it's to those purchasing it puts other kids in danger.
They're breaking the law, and should also be getting a visit from the guards.

The knowledge of events is from her tweets. Interesting though that you didn't question any of the knowledge of events of the lads piling on to blame the under age girls.

This leak doesn't relate to OF material, as explained above.

hynesie08

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

This is the forum you want for that.

https://touch.boards.ie/forum/576

Cool story bro, of course there's no history of these large file shares turning out to be false are there.....

https://www.her.ie/life/ucd-student-paper-refuse-to-publish-correction-following-ucd200-scandal-279888

Do you have evidence these servers exist????

AndrewJRenko

sbsquarepants wrote: »

If need be, yes. Or some other way, it's really up to them to find some way to comply with the law, not for the law to find a way to comply with their business.



Why should some company be allowed to peddle underage porn just because it would take a bit of effort to not peddle it?


You've to prove your age for all sorts of things. 13 year olds can't just rock up to O'Briens and buy a bottle of Tequilla, and if it turns out that O'Briens just can't be arsed checking on peoples ages, there will be serious repercussions for them.

When you rock up to the offy, there is a human involved. If you're suggesting human intervention in every upload, you can close down pretty much every online service.

And then there is the matter of encryption, where the host literally cannot see the content they are hosting.

Solving these matters is a bit beyond the scope of the lads on boards.

AndrewJRenko

hynesie08 wrote: »

Cool story bro, of course there's no history of these large file shares turning out to be false are there.....

https://www.her.ie/life/ucd-student-paper-refuse-to-publish-correction-following-ucd200-scandal-279888

Do you have evidence these servers exist????

Ha, ha, ha, you're hilarious. No one incriminated themselves so you're convinced it never happened.

Would you like to buy this bridge?

BorneTobyWilde

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The knowledge of events is from her tweets. Interesting though that you didn't question any of the knowledge of events of the lads piling on to blame the under age girls.

This leak doesn't relate to OF material, as explained above.

I know ZERO of the leaks, and never subbed to OF's and never will. Simple fact is, and it's a fact, OF's is full of 1000's upon 1000's of underage people. Not just in Ireland, but everywhere, places in South America like Columbia , Venezuela, where 1 dollar is a fortune have huge amounts people on there, a lot of them underage.
It's wrong of you to say that not one leaked photos is from OF's from someone who maybe wasn't of age to be on there.
We don't know that, but it's likely.

hynesie08

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Ha, ha, ha, you're hilarious. No one incriminated themselves so you're convinced it never happened.

Would you like to buy this bridge?

Wouldn't I be more likely to buy the bridge if I just believed things without question?

Believe it or not, asking for proof of the story isn't misogyny, or gullibility, it's just that, asking for proof.

BorneTobyWilde

What does Leaked even mean, in this case no one will ever see them. Of course they could pop up anywhere any time on the web, but even then it would have to be in a dark place.

AndrewJRenko

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I know ZERO of the leaks, and never subbed to OF's and never will. Simple fact is, and it's a fact, OF's is full of 1000's upon 1000's of underage people. Not just in Ireland, but everywhere, places in South America like Columbia , Venezuela, where 1 dollar is a fortune have huge amounts people on there, a lot of them underage.
It's wrong of you to say that not one leaked photos is from OF's from someone who maybe wasn't of age to be on there.
We don't know that, but it's likely.

I didn't say 'not one of '. I was referring to the particular case noted in the tweet above.

So have you any thoughts on the private Discord group of lads sharing nudes, some of which are private photos of children?

BorneTobyWilde

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I didn't say 'not one of '. I was referring to the particular case noted in the tweet above.

So have you any thoughts on the private Discord group of lads sharing nudes, some of which are private photos of children?

Darn, I don't even know what a ''discord '' is . What is that?



Dude I have a k800i phone for last 13 years.

sbsquarepants

Deleted User wrote: »

Because most people don't "buy" a server, they use a cloud hosting service. These services could have a million or more clients, or billions in the case of Amazon.

Also the server could be in Outer Mongolia paid for with bitcoin or something. Very hard to trace and enforce. Not saying we shouldn't try, absolutely we should, but it isn't as easy as you seem to think.

I don't think it would be easy at all. It would be easy to pass the law, is what i said. I'm sure it would be a mammoth undertaking, but that doesn't mean we should just not bother trying.



I don't claim to have the answer, but i'd be fairly certain that someone does, some Mark Zuckerberg type figure for example, but they have decided it's prohibitively expensive for them to actually do it out of the goodness of their hearts. They need to be nudged in the right direction.

Quantum Erasure

Just flicking through the stations and see Mattie McGrath talking about this, or something like this, in the Dail on oireachtas TV, hard to make out what he's saying...

Quantum Erasure

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Just flicking through the stations and see Mattie McGrath talking about this, or something like this.

Were his pictures leaked too??

sbsquarepants

Jaysus, lets hope not:eek:

Witchie

I always say as long as it's between consenting adults get on with it.

sbsquarepants

Witchie wrote: »

I always say as long as it's between consenting adults get on with it.

Absolutely.


So long as they are A: Adults, and B: Consenting, i couldn't give a rats arse what they get up to!

coinop

LOL this is the most obvious fake news ploy in quite some time. Reminds me of the story of the Australian dwarf boy from last year whose mother made a social media sob video about how he was getting bullied every day and wanted to kill himself. International media outlets took the bait and even Hugh Jackman was fooled into making a pity shout-out video. Turns out the dwarf boy was actually the bully, with a particular hatred towards his female classmates who rejected his romantic advances, and liked to participate in gangster photoshoots brandishing guns and hundred dollar Nikes. This wasn't his mothers first time at trying to play the sympathy card for financial gain either.

I look at this OnlyFans leak story the same. Qui bono? Seems of the two main accounts pushing the story, one is promoting her podcast and the other, with a heavily edited photo and about an inch of makeup on her face, is promoting her OnlyFans account. Sadly nobody will read the follow-up story about how this was all fake. And the dummies will latch onto the next fake story that originates on social media...

AndrewJRenko

Witchie wrote: »

I always say as long as it's between consenting adults get on with it.

Some of these photos are of children, as mentioned several times in the thread.

AndrewJRenko

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Darn, I don't even know what a ''discord '' is . What is that?



Dude I have a k800i phone for last 13 years.

Did you think of trying to search for the answer or looking up Wikipedia?

hynesie08

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Some of these alleged photos in this alleged server are allegedly of children, as mentioned several times in the thread.

FYP

Witchie

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Some of these photos are of children, as mentioned several times in the thread.

And that is wrong. I only agree with consenting adults. Sorry if being drunk has made me less coherent than usual. But I thought I clearly stated this above. All else is unacceptable.

AndrewJRenko

hynesie08 wrote: »

FYP

Absolutely correct, no visible evidence at present.

Personally, I've seen enough from one particular credible source to convince me that this one has legs.

banie01

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Absolutely correct, no visible evidence at present.

Personally, I've seen enough from one particular credible source to convince me that this one has legs.

Who is the credible source?

hynesie08

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Absolutely correct, no visible evidence at present.

Personally, I've seen enough from one particular credible source to convince me that this one has legs.

Look, if these turns out to be true, the lads who shared their exs pictures need to be dragged over the coals......

The only fans thing doesn't bother me, media leaks, movies TV shows, albums, I don't feel more sympathy because Sharon from cabra needed a provident loan to buy the camera to take them.

Child porn is obviously a different beast, and I can't condemn it strongly enough.

But all I've seen is allegations and allusions, there was one tweet saying a lad uploaded his name and course. But I personally need a bit more than that.

Pintman Paddy Losty

banie01 wrote: »

Who is the credible source?

Wouldn't expect an answer to that.

Beechwoodspark

You would hope that any women/men involved in this “enterprise” are being investigated by revenue on their income stream to ascertain if they are paying income tax

Spore

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

All women are worthy and equal.

Gonna have to disagree with you right there. Don't think Myra Hindley and Rosemary West are 'worthy' or 'equal' women can be anything men can be, including unworthy and unequal.

AndrewJRenko

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Wouldn't expect an answer to that.

You're right Paddy, you won't get an answer - because we all know how that works, right? I name a source, then someone comes up with the indisputable proof that they farted at their granny's funeral in 1977, so they couldn't possibly be trustworthy. Do you think it's my first rodeo?

As it happens, several of the accounts involved have now gone private, after being attacked by a load of the lads who seem to be a bit worried that their leaking activities might be leaked, so there's little point in sharing.

I think I saw it was being covered on RTE Radio this evening, so anyone actually interested should find something there.

banie01

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

You're right Paddy, you won't get an answer - because we all know how that works, right? I name a source, then someone comes up with the indisputable proof that they farted at their granny's funeral in 1977, so they couldn't possibly be trustworthy. Do you think it's my first rodeo?

As it happens, several of the accounts involved have now gone private, after being attacked by a load of the lads who seem to be a bit worried that their leaking activities might be leaked, so there's little point in sharing.

I think I saw it was being covered on RTE Radio this evening, so anyone actually interested should find something there.

So no source that you will share and no reporting of anything actually 1st hand or witnessed?

RTE and all the other reports make reference to images reportedly being shared on private forums after the hack.
It's a qualified statement as verifiable as "we heard".

But, and this is important in not just this story but in all stories that trigger any campaigning morality.
There has been no 1st hand report, or evidence actually presented of the hack.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm not saying fake news, I'm not even saying pics or GTFO...

I am saying hold the outrage and the kneejerk responses until some actual 1st hand reporting or evidence emerges.

AndrewJRenko

banie01 wrote: »

So no source that you will share and no reporting of anything actually 1st hand or witnessed?

RTE and all the other reports make reference to images reportedly being shared on private forums after the hack.
It's a qualified statement as verifiable as "we heard".

But, and this is important in not just this story but in all stories that trigger any campaigning morality.
There has been no 1st hand report, or evidence actually presented of the hack.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm not saying fake news, I'm not even saying pics or GTFO...

I am saying hold the outrage and the kneejerk responses until some actual 1st hand reporting or evidence emerges.

You got no outrage or kneejerk responses from me.

EmmetSpiceland

I think the main thing here is that the Revenue “look into” the victim’s tax returns.

banie01

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

You got no outrage or kneejerk responses from me.

You're running with an unevidenced story as fact when there is zero evidence or corroboration from anyone who doesn't have something to gain.

You are claiming fact, you are claiming source when professional journalists are struggling to find one.

Church on Tuesday

banie01 wrote: »

So no source that you will share and no reporting of anything actually 1st hand or witnessed?

RTE and all the other reports make reference to images reportedly being shared on private forums after the hack.
It's a qualified statement as verifiable as "we heard".

But, and this is important in not just this story but in all stories that trigger any campaigning morality.
There has been no 1st hand report, or evidence actually presented of the hack.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm not saying fake news, I'm not even saying pics or GTFO...

I am saying hold the outrage and the kneejerk responses until some actual 1st hand reporting or evidence emerges.

Nah, sure that would be much too sensible an attitude to adopt.

I tried asking if someone had actual proof this occurred when the petition was shed in a Facebook group, it didn't take long for a few whiteknights to arrive and start accusing me of such things as perpetuating a rape culture and someone even went as far too to accuse me of being a paedophile.

So that's what you get when you ask for actual evidence of the supposed data leak.

MsStote

Religion still has a grip but it is loosening. Give it a decade and barely any will still be at church. I think the ones that cause the most trouble are jealous women and men who want to put them down.

I think, live and let live. No harm to anyone and I enjoy sexual content.

Galwayguy35

MsStote wrote: »

Religion still has a grip but it is loosening. Give it a decade and barely any will still be at church. I think the ones that cause the most trouble are jealous women and men who want to put them down.

I think, live and let live. No harm to anyone and I enjoy sexual content.

No it hasn't, I'm old enough to remember when people were protesting and praying outside the strip club Stringfellow was opening.

Those days are long gone.

AndrewJRenko

banie01 wrote: »

You're running with an unevidenced story as fact when there is zero evidence or corroboration from anyone who doesn't have something to gain.

You are claiming fact, you are claiming source when professional journalists are struggling to find one.

I'm not running with anything. It's not my story and I've nothing to gain.

I've seen a few bits on Twitter, and I'm commenting on a discussion here, just like everyone else.

But it is fascinating to see the levels of outright misogyny, victim blaming, and rushing to the defence of the lads who are sharing the pics here on boards.

Gradius

MsStote wrote: »

Religion still has a grip but it is loosening. Give it a decade and barely any will still be at church. I think the ones that cause the most trouble are jealous women and men who want to put them down.

I think, live and let live. No harm to anyone and I enjoy sexual content.

Yeah that'll be great, then there'll be no moral standard whatsoever to stand in the way of sexual exploitation, sorry, "freedom". That's what you actually mean.

Children being encouraged onto the internet and being shown the example that sex=money is a very bad thing. Just because your slack-jaw has no skin in the game and won't face any consequences doesn't give your shyt opinion any more credibility.

Galwayguy35

Gradius wrote: »

Yeah that'll be great, then there'll be no moral standard whatsoever to stand in the way of sexual exploitation, sorry, "freedom". That's what you actually mean.

Children being encouraged onto the internet and being shown the example that sex=money is a very bad thing. Just because your slack-jaw has no skin in the game and won't face any consequences doesn't give your shyt opinion any more credibility.

I'd be christian myself but in fairness the church wasn't great at practicing what it preached in regards to moral leadership in the past.

Parents are there to guide their kids until they are old enough and then let them make their own life choices.

Gradius

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I'd be christian myself but in fairness the church wasn't great at practicing what it preached in regards to moral leadership in the past.

Parents are there to guide their kids until they are old enough and then let them make their own life choices.

It's not about religion, it's about standards and how low people can push them. They'll use the abolition of religion as an easy target and means to that end.

As for parents supposedly showing leadership, how many 11 year olds are walking around with instant, unfettered, uncontrolled access to the internet right this instant? Without the parents having the slightest breeze about what they're being exposed to? The role of parents has been diminished significantly by the tech bro's dreams of hyper capitalism.

It's about money and selfishness versus respect and quality of life.

banie01

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I'm not running with anything. It's not my story and I've nothing to gain.

I've seen a few bits on Twitter, and I'm commenting on a discussion here, just like everyone else.

But it is fascinating to see the levels of outright misogyny, victim blaming, and rushing to the defence of the lads who are sharing the pics here on boards.

Alleged pics.
In a world where J.Law's nudes and Chris Pratt's Insta "mistake" were shared and viewed by millions within hours!
Its more than a little incredulous that despite reams of reporting, outraged vox-pops and petitions that not a sniff of any actual 1st hand evidence of this leak is real as of yet.

YFlyer

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I'd be christian myself but in fairness the church wasn't great at practicing what it preached in regards to moral leadership in the past.

Parents are there to guide their kids until they are old enough and then let them make their own life choices.

What would baby Jesus do?

banie01

YFlyer wrote: »

What would baby Jesus do?

Feet pics?

irishproduce

Beginning to think it's made up as part of the upcoming petitions in legislation changes.

FintanMcluskey

Young lady on with Matt Cooper on the tonight show has in solidarity with those affected by revenge porn, posted pics of herself on social media in see through underwear.

Not sure how that helps