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Lux23

fantaiscool wrote: »

Is "being good with women" a thing? What do you mean exactly? Sounds like PUA stuff? How good someone is with women is probably correlated to how good the guy looks. A looker is always good with women isn't he. I'm happy being myself and just seeing if myself and the girl click and enjoy each others company. Maybe you're talking about shy lads or lads with issues? In that case I agree but if a lad can just be his normal self and chat away then I wouldn't class that as "being good with women", more just being a normal lad. The same way a girl being "good with lads" isn't really a thing is it. Maybe I'm totally off base but thats how i see it.

I think there are some people that are naturally very charming and they aren't necessarily the best looking. They are just friendly and easy to talk to.

Aw Noice

I am a 36yo white male with a Tinder account set to various cities in South East Asia.

I have matched with over 200 women and many of these are 18-21 yos who would be happy to be my gf.

Aw Noice

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Never underestimate the amount of men chasing even a mildly attractive woman.

The male sex drive is so strong that men will do anything for sex.

Padre_Pio

Aw Noice wrote: »

I am a 36yo white male with a Tinder account set to various cities in South East Asia.

I have matched with over 200 women and many of these are 18-21 yos who would be happy to be my gf.

Did you ask all 200?

I have probably 200 tinder matches, but how many do I actually want to message?
Of those, how many would respond if I messaged them?
How many would like to eventually meet up?
How many would want to meet up a second time?

I said it many times that if your tinder profile was just labrador pictures you'd have more matches than 90% of men.

Aw Noice

Aw Noice wrote: »

I am a 36yo white male with a Tinder account set to various cities in South East Asia.

I have matched with over 200 women and many of these are 18-21 yos who would be happy to be my gf.

Most of them are likely pros or just after a westerner.

Aw Noice

Augeo wrote: »

Most of them are likely pros or just after a westerner.

Cope

Aw Noice

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Did you ask all 200?

I have probably 200 tinder matches, but how many do I actually want to message?
Of those, how many would respond if I messaged them?
How many would like to eventually meet up?
How many would want to meet up a second time?

I said it many times that if your tinder profile was just labrador pictures you'd have more matches than 90% of men.

I talk to the most attractive ones. I'm like a 5/10 in looks so getting this rock star treatment is amazing.

It will be incredibly easy to get a 9/10 gf in SEA once the pandemic is over.

fantaiscool

Lux23 wrote: »

Nope, men can find plenty of paying customers too, just they will generally be other men.

Well you might have a point. On the other hand you could be doing a disservice to the gay community. I'm not sure. I don't think most guys would feel comfortable putting themselves out there for a gay audience anyway.

Biker79

Deleted User wrote: »

Spot on.

Society is just one continuous evolution. The world is not going to collapse because people get their mickeys and minges out on OnlyFans.

Not sure you could call the mass participation of women in p**hub and only fans as evolution.

Its quite anti-reproduction, when you think about it.

Evolution implies a linear trajectory. But sexual debauchery tends to peak as civilisations begin to decline - if the rise and fall of historical civilisations is any measure.

Maybe this time will be different.

Biker79

Biker79 wrote: »

Not sure you could call the mass participation of women in p**hub and only fans as evolution.

Its quite anti-reproduction, when you think about it.

Evolution implies a linear trajectory. But sexual debauchery tends to peak as civilisations begin to decline - if the rise and fall of historical civilisations is any measure.

Maybe this time will be different.

Nonsense.

Many of the great and long-lasting civilisations were awash with debauchery throughout their time.

Rome
Greece
Egypt
Mongols
China

all had very liberal views on sex and relationships.

This idea that debauchery is a sign of civilizational decline is a total work of fiction.

Potential-Monke

fantaiscool wrote: »

The sexbot is interesting mainly because theres an accusation that the whole concept objectifies women but on the other hand women are objectifying themselves doing things like OnlyFans. Guys are not signing up for their personalities. If the sexbots become so advanced that there is no difference in how it would feel to have sex with one vs an actual woman then I wonder what would happen. I have no idea. I think men would still swarm to actual women as it's more about getting validation from women which a sexbot can't give? Although I have no idea how paying a woman for OnlyFans is somehow giving validation to a man. I would opt for a sexbot if it was realistically on par with having sex with an actual woman but I'm not sure it would take off. It's probably light years away too.

I wouldn't say it's lightyears away. There are already "real feel" dolls out there which are supposed to be really good, they're just not moving yet. And another inventor has some dolls already that do very basic speech.

I don't think I'll be around for it, but sexbots will 100% be a thing at some stage. If they get to the level where you can't really tell the difference, I can see a lot of people going for them. I would, but only because what i'm looking for in a woman is probably not realistic and/or well out of my league. I'm quite happy being single right now, and if there was a bot to take care of the sexual stuff, I would genuinely consider it, again especially if one can't tell the difference. It would be great to have the benefits of a missus but with an off button. Plus they could probably be programmed to be exactly what you're looking for.

Mister Vain

They already have sex doll brothels in some places. Now that would be weird.

Potential-Monke

Going by the above, it's a good way for women who want to make money via sex to screen potential buyers! Get paid to be seen naked, then arrange some squishy time with viewers for extra monies, and have you pick. Win-win!

Padre_Pio

Aw Noice wrote: »

I talk to the most attractive ones. I'm like a 5/10 in looks so getting this rock star treatment is amazing.

It will be incredibly easy to get a 9/10 gf in SEA once the pandemic is over.

The "rock-star treatment" is having Asian women send you a text :pac::pac:

Liam Gallagher was right, times are tough

Mister Vain

Aw Noice wrote: »

I am a 36yo white male with a Tinder account set to various cities in South East Asia.

I have matched with over 200 women and many of these are 18-21 yos who would be happy to be my gf.

I have mine set to Irish towns and I still manage to only match with girls in Hong Kong.

Biker79

Deleted User wrote: »

Nonsense.

Many of the great and long-lasting civilisations were awash with debauchery throughout their time.

Rome
Greece
Egypt
Mongols
China

all had very liberal views on sex and relationships.

This idea that debauchery is a sign of civilizational decline is a total work of fiction.

And they all vanished for the reasons I mentioned.

It most certainly is not nonsense. A population cannot sustain itself by reproducing into the next generation, once debauchery goes beyond a certain level. You may find that offensive but its simple arithmetic.

Unless tech advances to create artificial wombs. At which point women can then supply their eggs and men can supply their sperm, and let the machines do the rest.

It won't be the women of p**nhub and Onlyfans that will step up to solve this problem though, you can be sure of that.

EmmetSpiceland

Biker79 wrote: »

And they all vanished for the reasons I mentioned.

It most certainly is not nonsense. A population cannot sustain itself by reproducing into the next generation, once debauchery goes beyond a certain level. You may find that offensive but its simple arithmetic.

Unless tech advances to create artificial wombs. At which point women can then supply their eggs and men can supply their sperm, and let the machines do the rest.

It won't be the women of p**nhub and Onlyfans that will step up to solve this problem though, you can be sure of that.

Time to bring us back to the ‘Ireland that we dreamed of’, eh, B?

fantaiscool

Biker79 wrote: »

And they all vanished for the reasons I mentioned.

It most certainly is not nonsense. A population cannot sustain itself by reproducing into the next generation, once debauchery goes beyond a certain level. You may find that offensive but its simple arithmetic.

Unless tech advances to create artificial wombs. At which point women can then supply their eggs and men can supply their sperm, and let the machines do the rest.

It won't be the women of p**nhub and Onlyfans that will step up to solve this problem though, you can be sure of that.

Those civilizations didn't have artificial intelligence. AI will soon enough be taking jobs and pushing humans out of the workplace more and more. Capitalism ensures that companies will use AI to reduce costs as soon as they can. I remember being in Tesco a few years ago and there were so many people working. Once machines came in they dropped the numbers of staff hugely. This is happening not just to low paid jobs either and will continue to happen.

99nsr125

fantaiscool wrote: »

Those civilizations didn't have artificial intelligence. AI will soon enough be taking jobs and pushing humans out of the workplace more and more. Capitalism ensures that companies will use AI to reduce costs as soon as they can. I remember being in Tesco a few years ago and there were so many people working. Once machines came in they dropped the numbers of staff hugely. This is happening not just to low paid jobs either and will continue to happen.

It will happen to high paid jobs first guaranteed

Think about automation and robotics in car plants.

Padre_Pio

Did you use your real name when you subscribed?

doublejobbing 2

I often wonder what it must be like to live in the Czech Republic. They have 10.4 million people. Combined with the North we have nearly 7 million.


Xvideos lists 966 Czech porn actresss. It lists 30 odd Irish ones but the vast majority do not appear to be Irish. If this island had the rate the Czechs do we could expect about 600- 700 listings. It seems to me most Czechs must know at least one or two women- ones they knew in school, their mates cousin etc etc- who has been in a porn.

Yet Irish porn is so rare that when it does occasionally rear its head it becomes national tabloid news. The English wan riding her way around the country with GAA players, the woman riding the uniformed guard on film, that Fcuked in Ireland one with the birds from Tallaght made the news and all. I could nearly count on one hand (pun intentional) the amount of Irish women who have appeared in this stuff.

Like you can go on Xvideos and see an orgy in a Czech flat with 30 odd women in their 40s upwards. Most of them probably married, mothers, yet they're all like "ah yeah, I'll ride some young lads on camera for 200 quid, why not" (and Czech is one of the more prpsperous ex Soviet bloc states, it doesn't have the grinding poverty of, say, Moldova or Ukraine).

I just wonder what is so different about their culture that this is just normal to them.

riffmongous

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

I often wonder what it must be like to live in the Czech Republic. They have 10.4 million people. Combined with the North we have nearly 7 million.


Xvideos lists 966 Czech porn actresss. It lists 30 odd Irish ones but the vast majority do not appear to be Irish. If this island had the rate the Czechs do we could expect about 600- 700 listings. It seems to me most Czechs must know at least one or two women- ones they knew in school, their mates cousin etc etc- who has been in a porn.

Yet Irish porn is so rare that when it does occasionally rear its head it becomes national tabloid news. The English wan riding her way around the country with GAA players, the woman riding the uniformed guard on film, that Fcuked in Ireland one with the birds from Tallaght made the news and all. I could nearly count on one hand (pun intentional) the amount of Irish women who have appeared in this stuff.

Like you can go on Xvideos and see an orgy in a Czech flat with 30 odd women in their 40s upwards. Most of them probably married, mothers, yet they're all like "ah yeah, I'll ride some young lads on camera for 200 quid, why not" (and Czech is one of the more prpsperous ex Soviet bloc states, it doesn't have the grinding poverty of, say, Moldova or Ukraine).

I just wonder what is so different about their culture that this is just normal to them.

The countryside there still looks dirt poor in places though

doublejobbing 2

riffmongous wrote: »

The countryside there still looks dirt poor in places though

How many 20 year old Irish women are rich, though? Most are studying and working part time in low wage jobs. We have some of the highest costs in Europe for things like rent, getting started as a driver (buying a car, 12 lessons and getting taxed and insured as a young driver will typically cost between 5000 to 10,000).

This country is a rip off to get anything for yourself to resemble a good standard of living, but pretty much no Irish women would ever consider porn or escorting (if you look on Escort Ireland in non Covid times there are typically about a dozen Irish women working it). I just wonder what it is in Czech culture that makes so many so blase about it.

Mister Vain

The Czechs are a bit mad alright. I was in Prague a few times and its quite eye-opening. A lot of the girls do porn and they talk about it so causally. A lot of the top models are from Czech republic so there's no shortage of stunners either.

Actually who was that English porn star that was riding all the Irish lads in the caravan? That was gas. I remember reading in the paper about the hurler who lashed her out of it.

fantaiscool

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

How many 20 year old Irish women are rich, though? Most are studying and working part time in low wage jobs. We have some of the highest costs in Europe for things like rent, getting started as a driver (buying a car, 12 lessons and getting taxed and insured as a young driver will typically cost between 5000 to 10,000).

This country is a rip off to get anything for yourself to resemble a good standard of living, but pretty much no Irish women would ever consider porn or escorting (if you look on Escort Ireland in non Covid times there are typically about a dozen Irish women working it). I just wonder what it is in Czech culture that makes so many so blase about it.

Why do escorting when you can make money from simps by creating an Onlyfans and posting pictures of yourself? A lot of Irish girls are doing that. Not just Irish but girls all around the world. Escorting/porn is no longer required now that they know men will give them money for OnlyFans.

McGinniesta

Porn is like most other things in life.

A little bit of what you fancy is fine but when it starts affecting your life then it becomes an issue.

Mad_maxx

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

I often wonder what it must be like to live in the Czech Republic. They have 10.4 million people. Combined with the North we have nearly 7 million.


Xvideos lists 966 Czech porn actresss. It lists 30 odd Irish ones but the vast majority do not appear to be Irish. If this island had the rate the Czechs do we could expect about 600- 700 listings. It seems to me most Czechs must know at least one or two women- ones they knew in school, their mates cousin etc etc- who has been in a porn.

Yet Irish porn is so rare that when it does occasionally rear its head it becomes national tabloid news. The English wan riding her way around the country with GAA players, the woman riding the uniformed guard on film, that Fcuked in Ireland one with the birds from Tallaght made the news and all. I could nearly count on one hand (pun intentional) the amount of Irish women who have appeared in this stuff.

Like you can go on Xvideos and see an orgy in a Czech flat with 30 odd women in their 40s upwards. Most of them probably married, mothers, yet they're all like "ah yeah, I'll ride some young lads on camera for 200 quid, why not" (and Czech is one of the more prpsperous ex Soviet bloc states, it doesn't have the grinding poverty of, say, Moldova or Ukraine).

I just wonder what is so different about their culture that this is just normal to them.

whats so great about having a high number of female performers from a country on " Xvideo "?

how does that make the Czech Republic better than Ireland ?

doublejobbing 2

Mad_maxx wrote: »

whats so great about having a high number of female performers from a country on " Xvideo "?

how does that make the Czech Republic better than Ireland ?

Not saying that in the slghtest. It's just amazing, particularly in the context of this thread title, how many thousands of women are willing to demean themselves for a few hundred quid a time. You could offer 100,000 Irish women 100k to do what these women will do for 200 quid and I doubt more than a hundred of them would take up the offer. Czech culture just seems so different in that regard.

Beechwoodspark

No names but there’s a woman in her mid 30s in the local town near me who is on the only fans platform and most ppl would know. Pics circulated on whatsapp last year too. This particular person works in a local customer facing “respectable” business

Ppl def know and rumours spread like wildfire

Sleepy

Ireland is a small gossipy place. There was an attractive girl who worked in a local shop when myself and my mates were in our early teens. Apparently she moved to the US in her early 20s and did a porn shoot in her mid-thirties. Despite none of us having seen or heard anything about her since we were kids the links were fired around Whatsapp groups from the area within a few days of the video hitting a site I'd never heard of before (i.e. not one of the big name tube sites). Obviously she was using a stage name too but I think anyone doing a porn shoot is kidding themselves if they don't think everyone they know will eventually see it.

stefanovich

Count Basie wrote: »

Would any of you lads simp?

I think I'd only do it if I found a girl I knew irl was doing OF.

Under no circumstances would I give money to this horrible site.

xzanti

Count Basie wrote: »

Would any of you lads simp?

I think I'd only do it if I found a girl I knew irl was doing OF.

I'm getting really old. What does "simp" mean??

stefanovich

xzanti wrote: »

I'm getting really old. What does "simp" mean??

It means being pathetic enough to give money to a girl online so she can degrade herself for profit rather than investing in yourself.

Mister Vain

Lockdowns, loneliness and horniness. The perfect combination for Only Fans.

Invidious

fantaiscool wrote: »

Why do escorting when you can make money from simps by creating an Onlyfans and posting pictures of yourself? A lot of Irish girls are doing that. Not just Irish but girls all around the world. Escorting/porn is no longer required now that they know men will give them money for OnlyFans.

The New York Times ran a story last month ("Jobless, Selling Nudes Online and Still Struggling") that suggests that numerous women have flocked to OnlyFans as a way to subsidize their income during the pandemic. OnlyFans had over 1 million content creators in December, up from 120,000 the previous year. Some of these people are making a lot, but many are making only a small amount of money per month.

The article notes that models, porn stars, and celebrities who already have large social media presences can easily drive traffic to an OnlyFans account. But for the average non-famous woman, pickings can be slim.

“It is already an incredibly saturated market,” Ms. Jones said of explicit content online. “The idea that people are just going to open up an OnlyFans account and start raking in the dough is really misguided.”

stefanovich

Invidious wrote: »

The New York Times ran a story last month ("Jobless, Selling Nudes Online and Still Struggling") that suggests that numerous women have flocked to OnlyFans as a way to subsidize their income during the pandemic. OnlyFans had over 1 million content creators in December, up from 120,000 the previous year. Some of these people are making a lot, but many are making only a small amount of money per month.

The article notes that models, porn stars, and celebrities who already have large social media presences can easily drive traffic to an OnlyFans account. But for the average non-famous woman, pickings can be slim.

How acceptable is it among their peers? We can see from the current state of the world that young minds are easily manipulated and often not in their best interests...

fantaiscool

Invidious wrote: »

The New York Times ran a story last month ("Jobless, Selling Nudes Online and Still Struggling") that suggests that numerous women have flocked to OnlyFans as a way to subsidize their income during the pandemic. OnlyFans had over 1 million content creators in December, up from 120,000 the previous year. Some of these people are making a lot, but many are making only a small amount of money per month.

The article notes that models, porn stars, and celebrities who already have large social media presences can easily drive traffic to an OnlyFans account. But for the average non-famous woman, pickings can be slim.

Any half decent looking girl with an ounce of common sense should be able to make a living from OnlyFans in this day and age if she decides to go down that route.

Invidious

stefanovich wrote: »

How acceptable is it among their peers? We can see from the current state of the world that young minds are easily manipulated and often not in their best interests...

I wouldn't honestly know how acceptable it is among peers. The article above does state the concern that employers will be put off by it if they find out.

fantaiscool wrote: »

Any half decent looking girl with an ounce of common sense should be able to make a living from OnlyFans in this day and age if she decides to go down that route.

With over a million OnlyFans accounts in existence, I expect the economics involves a small percentage of "star" posters raking in a lot of money, while the majority make little or nothing.

Padre_Pio

xzanti wrote: »

I'm getting really old. What does "simp" mean??

Weak men who give money, presents and favours to women in the hopes they get attention in return.

Basically OnlyFans. Give them cash, they'll send you pics and maybe the odd message.

stefanovich

Invidious wrote: »

I wouldn't honestly know how acceptable it is among peers. The article above does state the concern that employers will be put off by it if they find out.



With over a million OnlyFans accounts in existence, I expect the economics involves a small percentage of "star" posters raking in a lot of money, while the majority make little or nothing.

And ruin their employment and marriage chances in the future. Exploitation.

fantaiscool

stefanovich wrote: »

And ruin their employment and marriage chances in the future. Exploitation.

Any girl going all in with OnlyFans is going to not need to work eventually. You need to understand how desperate many men are. It's pathetic that a site like OnlyFans even exists and the only reason it exists is because men fund it. You have a large amount of men who are paying money to women for pictures. I can only surmise that nobody is questioning the sanity of this because it is so widespread. I think any man engaging in it probably has some mental issues that need to be addressed. They seem to be gaining pleasure from the whole experience which is bizarre. In my humble opinion anyway. Instead of focusing on the women, focus on the men.

BorneTobyWilde

fantaiscool wrote: »

Any girl going all in with OnlyFans is going to not need to work eventually. You need to understand how desperate many men are. It's pathetic that a site like OnlyFans even exists and the only reason it exists is because men fund it. You have a large amount of men who are paying money to women for pictures. I can only surmise that nobody is questioning the sanity of this because it is so widespread. I think any man engaging in it probably has some mental issues that need to be addressed. They seem to be gaining pleasure from the whole experience which is bizarre. In my humble opinion anyway. Instead of focusing on the women, focus on the men.

99.9999999999999% of them make nothing worth mentioning . It's very much like gamers, where some make a lot of money, but millions of them just play games in their moms basement and make zero, and have no viewers.

Kirby

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

99.9999999999999% of them make nothing worth mentioning . It's very much like gamers, where some make a lot of money, but millions of them just play games in their moms basement and make zero, and have no viewers.

By gamers do you mean streamers? If you do, you need to amend that sentence to "it's very much like male gamers".

Any decent looking woman with a passing knowledge of tech can start a twitch stream and be an affiliate, with a sub button, and 100 regular viewers in less than a month. It really is that easy. It's why a lot of the "cam girls" have moved over to twitch. You make more and get to keep most of your clothes on.

They have their regular subs and their regular donors and can make a living off of it. Now, growing beyond that point takes some effort and luck but it is incredibly easy for an attractive woman to break through the 50 viewer barrier that 99% of the site falls below.

stefanovich

Kirby wrote: »

By gamers do you mean streamers? If you do, you need to amend that sentence to "it's very much like male gamers".

Any decent looking woman with a passing knowledge of tech can start a twitch stream and be an affiliate, with a sub button, and 100 regular viewers in less than a month. It really is that easy. It's why a lot of the "cam girls" have moved over to twitch. You make more and get to keep most of your clothes on.

They have their regular subs and their regular donors and can make a living off of it. Now, growing beyond that point takes some effort and luck but it is incredibly easy for an attractive woman to break through the 50 viewer barrier that 99% of the site falls below.

Twitch seems to be the start of the slippery slope. It’s not limited to games, there’s chat only where unsurprisingly a lot of the girls like wearing very little clothes. Is twitch a recruitment drive for onlyfans?

Feisar

fantaiscool wrote: »

Any girl going all in with OnlyFans is going to not need to work eventually. You need to understand how desperate many men are. It's pathetic that a site like OnlyFans even exists and the only reason it exists is because men fund it. You have a large amount of men who are paying money to women for pictures. I can only surmise that nobody is questioning the sanity of this because it is so widespread. I think any man engaging in it probably has some mental issues that need to be addressed. They seem to be gaining pleasure from the whole experience which is bizarre. In my humble opinion anyway. Instead of focusing on the women, focus on the men.

Is it any different than a Sky Sports subscription though in terms of paying for your entertainment?

Invidious

fantaiscool wrote: »

Any girl going all in with OnlyFans is going to not need to work eventually.

It's hardly a "career' with any longevity, though. The core demand in erotica/porn has always been for women in the 18 to 25 age bracket. What happens when she's 25+ and her fans move on to younger, newer models?

I think any man engaging in it probably has some mental issues that need to be addressed.

It's a bit absurd to claim that any man who enjoys looking at images of attractive women has "mental issues that need to be addressed." How is it any different from having a subscription to Playboy? It also comes with some degree of interaction with the model, which I'm sure is part of the appeal.

Feisar

Invidious wrote: »

It's a bit absurd to claim that any man who enjoys looking at images of attractive women has "mental issues that need to be addressed." How is it any different from having a subscription to Playboy? It also comes with some degree of interaction with the model, which I'm sure is part of the appeal.

I'd say the appeal is the notion of knowing the women to some degree, or the illusion of knowing them. Personally a cheeky pic from a friend would be way more erotic than general porn.

Richard Hillman

Count Basie wrote: »

Would any of you lads simp?

I think I'd only do it if I found a girl I knew irl was doing OF.

I followed a girl I used to work with on it. Paid extra for a few videos. But after a couple of months of seeing her whack herself with a dildo, it got old and unsubbed.

Richard Hillman

Count Basie wrote: »

How did you find her? Did she know you were paying her?

I didn't know her well. She worked in a different department but I had seen her about and she is attractive. She was promoting it through her Instagram. I just happened to creep on her page one day via "people you may know". We dont work in the same place anymore so I don't know how it would have went down if she was on it and still working there.

She wouldn't know who was subbing her unless your user name was obvious.

rapul

Tax credits gone to ****, only fans here I cum!