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Homelander

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Single, in a relationship, skinny, fat, old or young...
Only a complete fool would pay.

I don't disagree personally, but there's all sorts pay for this stuff, not just one type objectively speaking.

Softshoulder

Hqrry113 wrote: »

It would definitely make you scared to have a daughter that's for sure, most western women have no respect for themselves these days and that's great tbh as a young person but not so much for fathers or brothers.

Yes, I think of a bird I know who's always putting up pics to show off her arse or tits.

What's it for? Is it to have memories of somewhere they visited? Picture of a memorable day or with a friend of theirs on a day out? No, it's to just show off their body in the hopes of making as many fellas horny and desire to ride them.

And then you think of their parents who are decent. What must they think seeing their kid just advertise themselves as pieces of meat with no respect for their bodies.

I don't think I could ever go out with a bird who spends so much of their time seeking validation for their bodies.

breezy1985

Softshoulder wrote: »

Yes, I think of a bird I know who's always putting up pics to show off her arse or tits.

What's it for? Is it to have memories of somewhere they visited? Picture of a memorable day or with a friend of theirs on a day out? No, it's to just show off their body in the hopes of making as many fellas horny and desire to ride them.

And then you think of their parents who are decent. What must they think seeing their kid just advertise themselves as pieces of meat with no respect for their bodies.

I don't think I could ever go out with a bird who spends so much of their time seeking validation for their bodies.

Anyone I know doing this seems to have a lot more respect for their body than a fat slob like me. And how is making people desire you and ride you bad Ide love to be desired and rode by loads of people.

Also you say you would never be with someone like this but I bet you would love to ride the hole off your friend if she would ever let ya

Stihl waters

The_Brood wrote: »

"Natural" is the word, and be my guest: explain to me why celebrating people having fun with their genitals and what comes out of it is natural and brave and freeing, but people doing the same with their ass I guess is....unnatural?

Be scientific.

What lovely discussions we are having in the woke world.

You're only talking out your hole now

Hqrry113

breezy1985 wrote: »

Anyone I know doing this seems to have a lot more respect for their body than a fat slob like me. And how is making people desire you and ride you bad Ide love to be desired and rode by loads of people.

Also you say you would never be with someone like this but I bet you would love to ride the hole off your friend if she would ever let ya

Hahahaha wtf

Softshoulder

breezy1985 wrote: »

Also you say you would never be with someone like this but I bet you would love to ride the hole off your friend if she would ever let ya

Oh yeah but she'd just be a piece of meat. Wouldn't be thinking of bringing her home or her ever mothering my child. lol

paw patrol

Pigsaw wrote: »

How did we get to the point where women see marriage and having a family as oppressive, but hawking your pu$$y online as 'liberating and empowering'?

I fully agree with your point but they tend to be a certain type of woman but there are many women who think they are morons. I'm lucky I'm married to one who would think these women are selling their dignity for a few grubby quid.

Greyfox wrote: »

You sound like a 70 year old granny thats completely out of touch with the real world. As long as everyone involved is over 18 people can decide for themselves what they think is and isint morally wrong

I think you are being overly harsh. I totally disapprove of this type of lifestyle but I'd never ban it but it's my right to be vocal that it's a ****ty choice for many.
It cheapens them as a person and i don't see it ending well for many of them. But fire away , do what you please.

Church on Tuesday

I think there is a certain amount of short sightedness amongst many younger creators on OF that once you put out something out there online, it's basically there forever.

No doubt that is a problem which will become more apparent as time goes by for some of these people.

Mister Vain

There's actually a lot of girls that do nude modelling for amateur and professional photographers, and those photos are put up everywhere, so an Onlyfans account is nothing. Just take a look at Model Mayhem or Purpleport. Plenty of girls getting paid to do photo shoots and making good money from it.

statesaver

statesaver wrote: »

Do people pay for naughty porn pics / vids ?

Why ?

I prefer to pay for porn - preferably porn that appears ethical. I believe in good honest pay for good honest work. The porn industry is far from ethical across the board. So I believe in paying for porn that seems to be ethical and treat it's participants well.

statesaver wrote: »

Simps.

Can they not get laid or girlfriends ? I mean ffs

You seem to assume that all people who pay for pornography are single or have no access to sex?

Plenty of us watch porn with our girlfriends and pornography and sex toys and so forth play a periodic and occasional part of our sex life as a whole.

My girlfriends and I have a subscription to the Abby Winters website for example. And we enjoy the content there far more than anything we find on any free to download sites. We avoid such piracy sites generally.

Church on Tuesday

Mister Vain wrote: »

There's actually a lot of girls that do nude modelling for amateur and professional photographers, and those photos are put up everywhere, so an Onlyfans account is nothing. Just take a look at Model Mayhem or Purpleport. Plenty of girls getting paid to do photo shoots and making good money from it.

Yes, that's with those girls contractual understanding that that will be the case from the off, I suspect quite a lot of women, younger women, on OF are fairly naïve about that aspect.

Mister Vain

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Yes, that's with those girls contractual understanding that that will be the case from the off, I suspect quite a lot of women, younger women, on OF are fairly naïve about that aspect.

That's a fair point. Actually I know a girl that used to do modelling on the side while she was working in a bank. Someone in work found her photos online and emailed them to everyone in the office. You'd need to be careful if its not your full time job.

Softshoulder

A lot of these young women try to convince themselves it's "art" and "modelling".

I was listening to newstalk one evening and they were discussing this and had some bird from onlyfans on. Host was giving all these negatives and she was just sighing and couldn't come out with any response and was saying it's art.

There's a reason there's not been any famous Irish porn star.

Sure if you put your tits and fanny up on OF then why not sign up to escort ireland and give hand shandys for 50 euro a pop?



Yet there's damn all Irish women on escorts ireland.

Even the ones on babestation don't show the goods! They just sit there in their bikini.

AndrewJRenko

Mister Vain wrote: »

That's a fair point. Actually I know a girl that used to do modelling on the side while she was working in a bank. Someone in work found her photos online and emailed them to everyone in the office. You'd need to be careful if its not your full time job.

You need to be careful emailing porn photos around to your colleagues, as you'll probably get fired.

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I think there is a certain amount of short sightedness amongst many younger creators on OF that once you put out something out there online, it's basically there forever.

No doubt that is a problem which will become more apparent as time goes by for some of these people.

Lots of ladies did topless or nude modelling in tabloid newspapers and magazines in the 80s and 90s. I haven't heard too many stories of lives ruined by this.

Church on Tuesday

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

You need to be careful emailing porn photos around to your colleagues, as you'll probably get fired.



Lots of ladies did topless or nude modelling in tabloid newspapers and magazines in the 80s and 90s. I haven't heard too many stories of lives ruined by this.

Again, they had a contractual understanding, why would their lives be ruined if that (going topless) was literally their job?

AndrewJRenko

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Again, they had a contractual understanding, why would their lives be ruined if that (going topless) was literally their job?

Their lives wouldn't be ruined - what did you mean by 'problems becoming more apparent over time'?

Montage of Feck

MyStubbleItches wrote: »

JESUS WILL SAVE US ALL

But sex sells.

Gael23

Went on one of those looking for **** material and they skimmed my credit card

sbsquarepants

Bubblesxoxx wrote: »

I want to know what your opinions are on strippers and the likes of using onlyfans to make money nothing you say is going to bother me it’s more curios why people have a begrudging attitude towards these things when they do worse things for free with their husbands boyfriend or a random Jack the lad from coppers In Dublin on a night out.

I have no problem with any form of sex work, if that's what you're into to. Wouldn't be my cup of tea, but strip clubs can be a bit of craic for stag do's and whatnot, the appeal of hookers is self explanatory i suppose, but what i just can't understand is why anyone would pay for porn - yet there certainly appears to be no shortage of people who do.

It baffles me that something like onlyfans is an actual thing. Fools and their money, fair play to the girls taking it off them as far as i'm concerned.

Church on Tuesday

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Their lives wouldn't be ruined - what did you mean by 'problems becoming more apparent over time'?

Well, any amount of problems tbh, their future kids might be exposed to said material, a jilted lover could exploit said material, a future employer could be made aware of said material by someone with a grudge or vendetta, parents or other relatives, could be made aware and be sent same material, the list goes on really.

There's a huge difference between a contractually obligated page 3 Girl or topless model and a relatively naïve young woman trying to make a few bob on the side, I'd imagine most folk can see this.

stefanovich

Onlyfans is disgusting. A manifestation of everything wrong with today's world. Pathethic incels giving money to superficial bimbos.

Stihl waters

stefanovich wrote: »

Onlyfans is disgusting. A manifestation of everything wrong with today's world. Pathethic incels giving money to superficial bimbos.

A match made in heaven it would seem, I can't see the point myself with the proliferation of free porn online but whatever gets the juices flowing I guess

stefanovich

Stihl waters wrote: »

A match made in heaven it would seem, I can't see the point myself with the proliferation of free porn online but whatever gets the juices flowing I guess

I am more worried about the damage to a whole generation of people and society in general.

Their grandparent's generation were married, mortgage and children in their 20's.

Church on Tuesday

stefanovich wrote: »

I am more worried about the damage to a whole generation of people and society in general.

Their grandparent's generation were married, mortgage and children in their 20's.

Generations change, there were much bigger families back then and the economic and societal climate was wholly different, maybe stuff like OF is an extreme reaction to the stifling oppression of those times.

stefanovich

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Generations change, there were much bigger families back then and the economic and societal climate was wholly different, maybe stuff like OF is an extreme reaction to the stifling oppression of those times.

The stifling oppression of the happy nuclear family?

stefanovich

stefanovich wrote: »

The stifling oppression of the happy nuclear family?

A time when many were trapped in miserable, loveless, marriages.

stefanovich

Deleted User wrote: »

A time when many were trapped in miserable, loveless, marriages.

As opposed to now happily masturbating in front of a screen and getting paid to take your clothes off.

iamstop

stefanovich wrote: »

As opposed to now happily masturbating in front of a screen and getting paid to take your clothes off.

Yes. Exactly.

The only problem I see is when a small fraction of people take it too far. Case in point the whole incel thing. But 99.9% of normal people can be on either side of the camera/screen and go about their life in normal fashion. I wouldn't let the 0.1% dictate how the rest should conduct themselves.

A healthy society can't operate that way.

stefanovich

iamstop wrote: »

Yes. Exactly.

The only problem I see is when a small fraction of people take it too far. Case in point the whole incel thing. But 99.9% of normal people can be on either side of the camera/screen and go about their life in normal fashion. I wouldn't let the 0.1% dictate how the rest should conduct themselves.

A healthy society can't operate that way.

Prostituting oneself digitally is not behaving in a normal fashion.

Church on Tuesday

stefanovich wrote: »

The stifling oppression of the happy nuclear family?

Some were and some weren't. There were many loveless marriages and woman during that time frankly were sometimes treated like ****.

I will say there was a greater sense of community and resilience and respect in those times, but not everything was picture perfect. Far from it.

Hqrry113

What women don't seem to understand is men will hype them up and enjoy what they're doing but woulf never want their mother/sister/girlfriend to do any of that kind of stuff, that should tell women something.

cj maxx

Stihl waters wrote: »

A match made in heaven it would seem, I can't see the point myself with the proliferation of free porn online but whatever gets the juices flowing I guess

Neither can I tbh except some man somewhere is paying steady exorbitant money in the belief that there’s some sort of relationship between them.
Or that she is only doing stuff for him .
I went on the site because of this thread to see what it is all about ( honestly ) and I’m inundated for ads for iConnect web site.

sbsquarepants

stefanovich wrote: »

I am more worried about the damage to a whole generation of people and society in general.

Their grandparent's generation were married, mortgage and children in their 20's.

And probably eeking out a hungry existence in some rat infested tenement. Away to fúck with your rose coloured hindsight would you!

stefanovich wrote: »

The stifling oppression of the happy nuclear family?

Happy families were happy, unhappy ones less so!

stefanovich wrote: »

Prostituting oneself digitally is not behaving in a normal fashion.

It's not materially different from acting or modelling, certainly much closer to those professions than to prostitution. And a damn site safer for the women involved.

Kate Winslett gets €20m to whip her tits out and pretend she's someone else. Kate Murphy gets €20. They are both doing essentially the same thing. Once they're both happy - who's business is it but their own.

It's honestly kind of weird at times how some people that would tend to be more on the progressive side will defend this kind of craic like there's nothing at all questionable about it, and it's all perfectly healthy behaviour and anyone questioning it is some relic from old Catholic Ireland..not just this thread, but you see it a good bit..And it's just weird tbh..

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

It's honestly kind of weird at times how some people that would tend to be more on the progressive side will defend this kind of craic like there's nothing at all questionable about it, and it's all perfectly healthy behaviour and anyone questioning it is some relic from old Catholic Ireland..not just this thread, but you see it a good bit..And it's just weird tbh..

What's weird about it?

lucalux

One point I need to address...anyone comparing a page three topless photo being published a couple of times in a newspaper back in the 80's and 90's, to OnlyFans, doesn't perhaps understand how the internet works.

Physical photos/negatives, weren't available to the public at any time, forever.

Having a couple of topless shots come up in an online newspaper archive or articles online - is not the same thing as much more 'intimate' pics videos etc being instantly downloaded and reproduced/shared, all over the internet forever.
The difference is scale, and accessibility.

how many people cut out and kept a page three's model photos from the newspaper?
Ok, now multiply that by millions (potentially) and it's all in HD for anyones pleasure at any time in the future.

Not to mention this can be straight to camera stuff, a very much more immediate type of in your face sexual activity if it's masturbation/toy play etc

I know which I'd rather look back on. Easier to brush off as "Oh it was a laugh, my friends and I got asked in town one day, but didn't i have great tits back then, and wasn't I silly really?!"

As opposed to, "Well grandson mine, that anaconda of a double ended dildo you saw, em, attacking me... well you know it was different in those days, and I really ought to talk to your father about your internet access"

iamstop

lucalux wrote: »

I really ought to talk to your father about your internet access"

Exactly! It's not for kids.

lucalux

iamstop wrote: »

Exactly! It's not for kids.

Haha no, not for kids... now if only kids were as good as to know what's for them or not.

Kids find porn (intentionally or accidentally) every single day on the internet. It's not their fault, it's usually the parent/guardian's lack of foresight, and oversight.

The fact that they shouldn't find it? Makes no odds. They will.

AndrewJRenko

stefanovich wrote: »

Prostituting oneself digitally is not behaving in a normal fashion.

You might to clarify which meaning of 'digitally' you intended here.

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Well, any amount of problems tbh, their future kids might be exposed to said material, a jilted lover could exploit said material, a future employer could be made aware of said material by someone with a grudge or vendetta, parents or other relatives, could be made aware and be sent same material, the list goes on really.

There's a huge difference between a contractually obligated page 3 Girl or topless model and a relatively naïve young woman trying to make a few bob on the side, I'd imagine most folk can see this.

lucalux wrote: »

One point I need to address...anyone comparing a page three topless photo being published a couple of times in a newspaper back in the 80's and 90's, to OnlyFans, doesn't perhaps understand how the internet works.

Physical photos/negatives, weren't available to the public at any time, forever.

Having a couple of topless shots come up in an online newspaper archive or articles online - is not the same thing as much more 'intimate' pics videos etc being instantly downloaded and reproduced/shared, all over the internet forever.
The difference is scale, and accessibility.

how many people cut out and kept a page three's model photos from the newspaper?
Ok, now multiply that by millions (potentially) and it's all in HD for anyones pleasure at any time in the future.

Not to mention this can be straight to camera stuff, a very much more immediate type of in your face sexual activity if it's masturbation/toy play etc

I know which I'd rather look back on. Easier to brush off as "Oh it was a laugh, my friends and I got asked in town one day, but didn't i have great tits back then, and wasn't I silly really?!"

As opposed to, "Well grandson mine, that anaconda of a double ended dildo you saw, em, attacking me... well you know it was different in those days, and I really ought to talk to your father about your internet access"

Yes, there is a difference in scale, but so what?

How about grandma just says; 'well grandson, I used to work as a sex model'. That's what we had to do to survive when we inherited the gig economy from those older folks with the nice jobs, nice houses and nice pensions.

Feisar

stefanovich wrote: »

Prostituting oneself digitally is not behaving in a normal fashion.

Didn’t you heard everyone banging on about the “new normal” the past few months?!!

Church on Tuesday

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

You might to clarify which meaning of 'digitally' you intended here.








Yes, there is a difference in scale, but so what?

How about grandma just says; 'well grandson, I used to work as a sex model'. That's what we had to do to survive when we inherited the gig economy from those older folks with the nice jobs, nice houses and nice pensions.

They don't have to do it though, some might have to, but I'd say they are a minority.

It's their business/body at the end of the day but you can be sure many are being naïve about it and most probably will have any amount of regrets about it (I doubt for most it won't be a career) further down the line. Life really isn't that black and white.

lucalux

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Yes, there is a difference in scale, but so what?

How about grandma just says; 'well grandson, I used to work as a sex model'. That's what we had to do to survive when we inherited the gig economy from those older folks with the nice jobs, nice houses and nice pensions.

The likelihood it will be found is bigger. Therefore any negative consequences are magnified by scale.

There's a big difference, to me at least, between a few topless photos of you being online via a grainy reprinted page three, and multiple HD videos of you performing graphic sex acts being available of you online.

That's my point. Not about the reasons why someone did it or the morality of same.

The attitude of the person involved is going to vary wildly depending on the person.

A lot of people would regret doing something that leaves stuff like that online forever.

Hqrry113

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

You might to clarify which meaning of 'digitally' you intended here.


Yes, there is a difference in scale, but so what?

How about grandma just says; 'well grandson, I used to work as a sex model'. That's what we had to do to survive when we inherited the gig economy from those older folks with the nice jobs, nice houses and nice pensions.

There'll be a serious amount of GILF photos floating around in schools soon that's for sure, imagine being in school as a kid and people in school passing around photos of gra

lucalux

Hqrry113 wrote: »

There'll be a serious amount of GILF photos floating around in schools soon that's for sure, imagine being in school as a kid and people in school passing around photos of gra

There already is.. lock up your kids, lock up your mammies

IAMAMORON

stefanovich wrote: »

Prostituting oneself digitally is not behaving in a normal fashion.

That is kind of derogatory if I am honest.

Are you differentiating between someone working as a prostitute or someone sex working digitally?

It warrants a bona fide response because there are obvious differences, both ethically and in the substance of this discussion.

I am ignoring the crossover between the two professions for the moment, but I think there are patent connections.

iamstop

stefanovich wrote: »

Prostituting oneself digitally is not behaving in a normal fashion.

Selling content on OnlyFans is far less prostituting than actual p0rn material. The models can chose exactly what to post and not get coaxed into doing things they are not comfortable with.

I know of at least two girls in the city I live in that are on OF. It's really not as big a deal as people like to think.

Hqrry113

iamstop wrote: »

Selling content on OnlyFans is far less prostituting than actual p0rn material. The models can chose exactly what to post and not get coaxed into doing things they are not comfortable with.

I know of at least two girls in the city I live in that are on OF. It's really not as big a deal as people like to think.

Yeah not a big deal as long as it's not your daughter or sister

lucalux

iamstop wrote: »

Selling content on OnlyFans is far less prostituting than actual p0rn material. The models can chose exactly what to post and not get coaxed into doing things they are not comfortable with.

I know of at least two girls in the city I live in that are on OF. It's really not as big a deal as people like to think.

Can I ask, and maybe you could ask them... Would they post the stuff they post on OF publicly, on their FB or Instagram?
If not, why not, do you think?

IAMAMORON

lucalux wrote: »

Can I ask, and maybe you could ask them... Would they post the stuff they post on OF publicly, on their FB or Instagram?
If not, why not, do you think?

Out of respect to friends or relations who may not appreciate seeing images of them naked.

Your question is excruciatingly pedantic.

lucalux

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Out of respect to friends or relations who may not appreciate seeing images of them naked.

Your question is excruciatingly pedantic.

You might tell them then, if they're doing it right, their photos and videos are already circulating online.
Pedantic maybe, but I would call it naive to think that they can think it's going to stay where they want it to.