NARGC membership and hunting licences

deeksofdoom

In relation to this old thread from 2012 on hunting licencees that was unearthed and closed down recently. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056538426

Is it true that there is an agreement with the Department of the Environment or whoever issue the hunting licences which recognizes NARGC membership as a type of hunting licence.

..... and does it mean that if you are not a member of the NARGC that you are not entitled to legally hunt wildlife????

J.R.

deeksofdoom wrote: »

..... and does it mean that if you are not a member of the NARGC that you are not entitled to legally hunt wildlife????

That is not the case - you do not need to be a member of NARGC to hunt wildlife.

On the gun licence application you need to show that you have land over which you have permission to hunt over.

You can show this in 2 ways:

1. Get 2 landowners written permissions with details of farm size etc.

2. Show that you are a member of a gub club.

Showing your NARGC card shows that you are a gun club member- therefore you don't need to get written permissions of landowners.

That's the advantage of the NARGC card

cookimonster

What hunting licences?

As a member / a Club Secretary / a Compensation Fund Manager of NARGC that's news to me. Plenty of lads I know, inculding myself pre club days have shot with out 'hunting licences' with exception of Deer Hunting and Foreshore.

The Wildlife Act makes provision for hunting.

SECTION 28
General restriction as regards hunting or killing with firearms certain exempted wild mammals and certain protected wild birds.

(2) A person shall in relation to land be qualified for the purposes of this section if he is at least sixteen years of age and—

(a) is entitled to sporting rights over the land, or

(b) is the guest, invitee, servant or agent, or possesses the written authority of a person who is entitled to sporting rights over the land, or

(c) is a member of a body of persons which is entitled to sporting rights over the land or which has such authority, or

(d) is a person who is of a class or description which the Minister by regulations declares to be a qualified class or description for the purposes of this section

It also makes provisions for hunting with firearms.

Licences to Hunt with Firearms Section 29

(5) Where a person applies to a Superintendent of the Garda Síochána for the grant under section 3 of the Firearms Act, 1925 , of a firearm certificate or the renewal under section 9 of the Firearms Act, 1964 , of such a certificate and when making the application for such certificate or renewal the person makes a declaration referred to in subsection (1) of this section, the certificate shall, if it is endorsed in the manner described in subsection (8) of this section, for the purposes of sections 22 (4) and 23 (5) of this Act be deemed to be a licence granted by the Minister under this section and, subject to section 75 (1) and to the restrictions contained in section 33 of this Act, such certificate shall, for so long as it is in force, operate to authorise the person to whom it is granted, with the firearm to which the certificate relates—

(a) to hunt and kill pursuant to any order under section 24 of this Act which for the time being is in force any protected wild bird,

(b) to hunt and kill pursuant to and in accordance with any order under section 25 of this Act which is so in force any hare.

(6) A licence granted by the Minister under this section (other than a licence deemed pursuant to subsection (5) of this section to have been so granted) may, if the Minister thinks fit, be renewed by him on the application of the holder of the licence who when making the application makes a declaration referred to in subsection (1) of this section.


(8) Where a firearm certificate is granted to a person described in subsection (5) of this section, there shall be endorsed on the certificate the following:

“This certificate, for so long as it is in force, authorises the person to whom it is granted, with the firearm to which it relates—

(a) to hunt and kill pursuant to any order under section 24 of the Wildlife Act, 1976, which is for the time being in force any protected wild bird within the meaning of that Act,

(b) to hunt and kill pursuant to and in accordance with any order under section 25 of the said Act which is so in force any hare.”

There are other sections detailing seasons, method of hunting, excemptions, derogations etc etc.

The act or meaning of 'endorsed' is most likely the issue here. I would reason the under section 4.2 of the FIREARM CERTIFICATE APPLICATION you are identifying the use of the firearm and therefore it is a condition of approval and I would presume this is noted on PULSE. Therefore a record is in place and that firearm has been issued for the purpose of hunting.

Zxthinger

Anyone got an old white paper licence to hand. This used to specifically mention the hunting thing IIRC