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Defund RTE

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    #122
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Bob24 wrote: »
    What percentage of BBC journalists would you say are leavers?

    But the question is what percentage of Journalists allow their own political views to cloud their profession.

    At the BBC the are not allowed to spot whatever they want, despite what others will say.


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    #123
    Bob24
    Registered Users Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    I also hate their left wing bias and how they try to pretend we're some sort of diverse country full of black people (why do they do this?)

    IMO the 2 things are related: because they can’t achieve diversity of opinions they are aiming for gender or racial diversity to be able to say they are a diverse organisation.

    And of course anyone regardless of gender or skin colour should have equal opportunity to join RTÉ, but it shouldn’t be the only thing diversity means for a public broadcaster - journalists who are able to empathise with and represent various social and ideological layers of society is what RTE tends to lack.


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    #124
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,923 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Superfoods wrote: »
    It's not a argument. One person posting about Netflix and then talking about a reduced TV license.

    You don't seem to care about people struggling earlier when you suggest they pay for Freeview installations etc?

    I got my first Freeview box for a tenner. A one of expense like that isn't going to cause a wave of bankruptcies.

    Now, I asked you to justify this tired old culchie caricature you trotted out earlier. Whenever you're ready.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #125
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    Bob24 wrote: »
    IMO the 2 things are related: because they can’t achieve diversity of opinions they are aiming for gender or racial diversity to be able to say they are a diverse organisation.

    That's a clever take on it, and kind of depressing if true.


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    #126
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Which part of it bothers you?

    None of it. It just came across like you were trying to have a laugh.


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    #127
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Bob24 wrote: »
    IMO the 2 things are related: because they can’t achieve diversity of opinions they are aiming for gender or racial diversity to be able to say they are a diverse organisation.

    What kind of false equivalence mumbo jumbo is that :D

    EDIT - btw - A quick scan of there website - Those three and Kanye West were the only black faces out of 30 + images..


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    #128
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    kenmm wrote: »
    None of it. It just came across like you were trying to have a laugh.

    To you perhaps


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    #129
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    To you perhaps


    yes to me, I wrote it - and I would go as far to say to a lot of people.. but you would need to do a " poll "


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    #130
    storker
    Registered Users Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭storker


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    Why is the word defund everywhere?
    Its like people can't think for themselves anymore

    Bandwagon effect.


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    #131
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    storker wrote: »
    Bandwagon effect.

    Plus lots of money spent marketing this ****..


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    #132
    the purple tin
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    BBC needs to sort itself out. As the state broadcaster is is supposed to be impartial politically, that is one of the terms set down at the start so it was allowed to collect money from the public through the licence.
    They have become very pro-tory lately, especially during the last election, they don't even bother to pretend anymore.


    Does RTE have to remain impartial as well in order to recieve public funding?


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    #133
    Superfoods
    Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Superfoods


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    I got my first Freeview box for a tenner. A one of expense like that isn't going to cause a wave of bankruptcies.


    Well done you, and what did you connect it to?

    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Now, I asked you to justify this tired old culchie caricature you trotted out earlier. Whenever you're ready.

    When did I mention anything about people living in or outside a city?


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    #134
    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    RTÉ should be one channel only and solely used for news and weather bulletins, ministerial speeches and crimecall.


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    #135
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,923 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Superfoods wrote: »
    Well done you, and what did you connect it to?

    My aerial.
    Superfoods wrote: »
    Can you please quote my post when I mentioned anything about a culchie? or anything that suggested I talked about people living in or outside a city?

    Don't prevaricate please. You accused me of wanting to cut people off as apparently, RTÉ is all they have. Apparently, they can neither afford a Freeview box, the internet or Netflix but can easily afford RTÉ's extortionate fee.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #136
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    the purple tin wrote: »
    They have become very pro-tory lately, especially during the last election, they don't even bother to pretend anymore.

    I'm not even sure that's the case (and many would say "too liberal"). Some of their top political correspondents would be strong conservative, but also capable of keeping their politics separate from their journalism.

    I think the real issue is the death of journalism. So many of them are happy to trot out the latest government press release without question, because if they don't then they don't get invited to the party / next big press event.

    Fixing that sort of problem is what I would like to discuss, rather than being railroaded into this fake defund the BBC (Or RTE or whatever) argument.

    the purple tin wrote: »

    Does RTE have to remain impartial as well in order to recieve public funding?

    I would like to know as well - are there the same sort of charters in place as BBC?


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    #137
    Superfoods
    Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Superfoods


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    My aerial.


    So the aerial is free? Quick google and installation of freeview and Saorview is a couple of hundred starting.

    A standard aerial in Ireland will not support Freeview according to the website I have checked. Do you have information to contradict that .

    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Don't prevaricate please. You accused me of wanting to cut people off as apparently, RTÉ is all they have. Apparently, they can neither afford a Freeview box, the internet or Netflix but can easily afford RTÉ's extortionate fee.

    So you lied.


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    #138
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    kenmm wrote: »
    I'm not even sure that's the case (and many would say "too liberal"). Some of their top political correspondents would be strong conservative, but also capable of keeping their politics separate from their journalism.
    Their political editor is seemingly incapable of that.

    Question Time is very strange the last few years too.


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    #139
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Skylinehead wrote: »
    Their political editor is seemingly incapable of that.

    Question Time is very strange the last few years too.

    ye - ok - Andrew Neil aside maybe :D - I always laugh at that one given his Paisley roots (Strong working class area in central Scotland)


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    #140
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,923 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Superfoods wrote: »
    So the aerial is free? Quick google and installation of freeview and Saorview is a couple of hundred starting.

    A standard aerial in Ireland will not support Freeview according to the website I have checked. Do you have information to contradict that .

    So 2 years of RTÉ then if I take your word for it which I don't. I'll provide information once you answer my earlier question.
    Superfoods wrote: »
    So you lied.

    Answer the question please. How many people in Ireland are stuck with only RTÉ?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #141
    satguy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭satguy


    RTE should just be a news and current affairs channel, we should not have to pay them to show us reruns of friends or Mrs Brownes Boys.

    Somebody needs to stand up to them.


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    #142
    BonnieSituation
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    satguy wrote: »
    RTE should just be a news and current affairs channel, we should not have to pay them to show us reruns of friends or Mrs Brownes Boys.

    Somebody needs to stand up to them.

    You could be that someone!


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    #143
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    kenmm wrote: »
    ye - ok - Andrew Neil aside maybe :D - I always laugh at that one given his Paisley roots (Strong working class area in central Scotland)

    I was actually talking about Kuenssberg :pac:


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    #144
    satguy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭satguy


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    You could be that someone!

    Someone in power.

    Why should we fund their lavish lifestyles,, while they stick us with endless repeats.


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    #145
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 15,128 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »
    RTÉ should be one channel only and solely used for news and weather bulletins, ministerial speeches and crimecall.

    You will no doubt be pleased to hear North Korea is lobbying to be added to the Green List.


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    #146
    Superfoods
    Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Superfoods


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Answer the question please. How many people in Ireland are stuck with only RTÉ?


    Are you the boss of boards?



    Running around lying and then throwing out demands. Who do you think you are?


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    #147
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    satguy wrote: »
    Someone in power.

    Why should we fund their lavish lifestyles,, while they stick us with endless repeats.

    "Won't someone else do it"


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    #148
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,923 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Superfoods wrote: »
    Are you the boss of boards?

    Running around lying and then throwing out demands. Who do you think you are?

    I haven't lied and you know it. You've been making ridiculous claims because your so desperate to shut down any criticism of RTÉ. I'm not sure where this weird agenda comes from so unless you have something of worth to say, I will not be wasting any more time on you.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #149
    Invidious
    Closed Accounts Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Invidious


    Superfoods wrote: »
    So the aerial is free? Quick google and installation of freeview and Saorview is a couple of hundred starting.

    You're objecting to people having to pay a one-time installation fee of circa €200 to get Saorview & Freeview, while simultaneously arguing that they should pay €160 each and every year to support RTE?


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    #150
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 18,167 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Superfoods wrote: »
    So the aerial is free? Quick google and installation of freeview and Saorview is a couple of hundred starting.

    This entire post is just a ****show of wrong information. The setup costs nothing like that when done DIY of which theres plenty of guides available for.
    Superfoods wrote: »
    A standard aerial in Ireland will not support Freeview according to the website I have checked. Do you have information to contradict that .

    A standard aerial in Ireland will absolutely support freeview it just cannot support saorview and freeview at the same time.
    Superfoods wrote: »
    So you lied.

    Right back at ya bud

    https://www.freetv.ie/how-to-combine-saorview-and-freeview-on-the-same-digital-receiver/


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    #151
    ronivek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭ronivek


    I've seen a few comments on the broadcasting of 'foreign' programming and complaining that there should be much more spent on Irish shows.

    In 2018 RTE spent:
    • €202.7 million on indigenous Irish programming across its channels.
    • €22.8 million on overseas programming across its channels.

    So even if you removed all overseas programming entirely from RTE as a whole they would only be able to boost spending on indigenous Irish programming by approximately 11%.

    And even then that boost would be contingent upon many assumptions such as commercial revenue remaining the same even if the number of programs broadcast was significantly reduced and the number of repeats or low-cost Irish programs increased proportionally.


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