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Ms. McHugh and national broadcaster

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    #422
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    or at the polling booth...

    She's not alone there, at least she has the balls to try unlike yourself who's content to hurl from the sidelines, anonymously!


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    #423
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    AOC, another clown.

    Is it a problem with women with conviction you have an issue with, yet to see you make any sort of cogent argument just sniping abuse?


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    #424
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Edgware wrote: »
    But then she wouldn't get as much media coverage and we all know how she loves that

    She quite clearly doesn't love it but snipe away, you seem incapable of much else.


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    #425
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    MFPM wrote: »
    Is it a problem with women with conviction you have an issue with, yet to see you make any sort of cogent argument just sniping abuse?

    Ahh the aul ‘some of the politicians you dont like are female therefore you hate women’ card


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    #426
    ollkiller
    Registered Users Posts: 864 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Ahh the aul ‘some of the politicians you dont like are female therefore you hate women’ card

    If the shoe fits...


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    #427
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Ahh the aul ‘some of the politicians you dont like are female therefore you hate women’ card

    You adding lying to the issues you're dealing with? Now, try again.


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    #428
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    which FF/FG politicians have never held paid employment ?

    From FG off the top of my head...

    Simon Harris, straight from college into poltics. Joe Carey, Damian English both entered politics with nothing on their CV. Brendan Griffin another one, straight from college to politics. Neale Richmond surfed the Young FG parliamentary assistant jobs club from his UCD days.


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    #429
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,852 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    MFPM wrote: »
    She stated in May 2019 if the GP were to enter government with FG she would leave the party, she has followed through on this. She said recently she would await the conclusion of the leadership election and then leave, she has followed through on this. If she didn't follow through people like you would be attacking her for not following through, she'll never win in your eyes because you have a predisposed opposition to her full stop.

    See this makes absolutely no sense. If she was going to leave, why wait until the end of the leadership election. She could have left at any time after the Green party membership overwhelmingly backed the PFG.

    Why did she hang around to vote for a leader in a party she wanted no further part in? A party that turned her stomach, by her own words? Did it only start turning her stomach when Ryan kept his position?

    It seems pretty clear that she picked her moment to announce her leaving, that moment being when the media attention was on the party. It is no coincidence that some other former-Green nobodies announced they were leaving at the same time.


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    #430
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,852 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    MFPM wrote: »
    Is it a problem with women with conviction you have an issue with, yet to see you make any sort of cogent argument just sniping abuse?

    You really are degrading yourself making comments like this.


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    #431
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    MFPM wrote: »
    Is it a problem with women with conviction you have an issue with, yet to see you make any sort of cogent argument just sniping abuse?

    Here’s the white knight, in to protect Sersh and AOC. Tell me, if I’d said Jack Chambers was full of shyte and Michael Martin was a muppet would you have felt I had an issue with men? Or do you feel women are weak and need to be stood up for??

    Because I’ve had a go at a lot more male politicians in my time on boards As there are a lot more male politicians, most recently the useless duo of Harris and Varadker and you’ve never pulled me up on it.

    Do you feel strong being a hero for these women?? Protector of femininity?? A gentleman of the ages? Because it comes across as quite pathetic.


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    #432
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    awec wrote: »
    You really are degrading yourself making comments like this.

    Do you want to follow that nonsense statement up with an argument?


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    #433
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    awec wrote: »
    See this makes absolutely no sense. If she was going to leave, why wait until the end of the leadership election. She could have left at any time after the Green party membership overwhelmingly backed the PFG.

    Why did she hang around to vote for a leader in a party she wanted no further part in? A party that turned her stomach, by her own words? Did it only start turning her stomach when Ryan kept his position?

    It seems pretty clear that she picked her moment to announce her leaving, that moment being when the media attention was on the party. It is no coincidence that some other former-Green nobodies announced they were leaving at the same time.
    See this makes absolutely no sense. If she was going to leave, why wait until the end of the leadership election. She could have left at any time after the Green party membership overwhelmingly backed the PFG.

    It's irrelevant whether it makes sense to you or not, the point is that she followed through on what she said she would do and if she hadn't the likes of you would be condemning her...
    Why did she hang around to vote for a leader in a party she wanted no further part in?

    I dare say she decided to use her franchise and vote for Martin, given the 'just transition' was launched at the same time perhaps people were trying to convince her to stay and fight inside the party, who knows, but you seem intent viewing her through a negative lens with little substance for such an approach beyond predetermined opposition I might suggest..
    A party that turned her stomach, by her own words? Did it only start turning her stomach when Ryan kept his position?

    The turned stomach remark relates to propping up FF and in particular FG, a fair enough point really. She also resigned before Ryan was re-elected, no?
    It seems pretty clear that she picked her moment to announce her leaving, that moment being when the media attention was on the party.

    Perhaps, but once more you're starting point is negative and cynical. It is entirely appropriate given her opposition to the GP entering government with FFFG to use the media to make a statement on her position, to condemn her for such is absurd and again reflects your predetermined opposition to the woman.
    It is no coincidence that some other former-Green nobodies announced they were leaving at the same time.

    And there it is once more.....The 'nobodies' have really got your dander up haven't they....Try some objectivity sometime.


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    #434
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    McHugh is typical of the sort of wishy-washy left-wing idealism that's so prevalent at the moment. Shíttin' on about socialism online, knowing she'll never have to go implement it, or live under it. Getting to be all virtuous and idealistic on Twitter.

    Bang of the student union off it.


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    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    McHugh is typical of the sort of wishy-washy left-wing idealism that's so prevalent at the moment. Shíttin' on about socialism online, knowing she'll never have to go implement it, or live under it. Getting to be all virtuous and idealistic on Twitter.

    Bang of the student union off it.
    More Transition Year debating team material really debating "Should Ireland reject electricity and live on mushrooms"


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    #436
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Here’s the white knight, in to protect Sersh and AOC. Tell me, if I’d said Jack Chambers was full of shyte and Michael Martin was a muppet would you have felt I had an issue with men? Or do you feel women are weak and need to be stood up for??

    Because I’ve had a go at a lot more male politicians in my time on boards As there are a lot more male politicians, most recently the useless duo of Harris and Varadker and you’ve never pulled me up on it.

    Do you feel strong being a hero for these women?? Protector of femininity?? A gentleman of the ages? Because it comes across as quite pathetic.

    My, my it seems the adults have left the building!
    Here’s the white knight, in to protect Sersh and AOC.

    I'm not sure either need protection from an anonymous internet troll.
    Tell me, if I’d said Jack Chambers was full of shyte and Michael Martin was a muppet would you have felt I had an issue with men?

    But you didn't did you, you've spent the last 24 hours excoriating a young woman only and then turned your attention against another woman, so you can see why I'd pose the question.
    Because I’ve had a go at a lot more male politicians in my time on boards As there are a lot more male politicians, most recently the useless duo of Harris and Varadker and you’ve never pulled me up on it.

    Well done but I'm discussing the subject matter and posts in this thread.
    Do you feel strong being a hero for these women??

    Now you're really descending into purile nonsense.
    Because it comes across as quite pathetic

    Not as pathetic as your histrionics in this thread.


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    #437
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Edgware wrote: »
    More Transition Year debating team material really debating "Should Ireland reject electricity and live on mushrooms"

    Speaking of Transition year debating!


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    #438
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    McHugh is typical of the sort of wishy-washy left-wing idealism that's so prevalent at the moment. Shíttin' on about socialism online, knowing she'll never have to go implement it, or live under it. Getting to be all virtuous and idealistic on Twitter.

    Bang of the student union off it.

    A lesson in writing a paragraph bereft of an argument....


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    #439
    StackSteevens
    Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭StackSteevens


    Deleted User wrote: »
    A principled person in Irish politics is always newsworthy. A very rare breed.

    Regardless of the sport involved, a bad loser is simply a bad loser. No more and no less.


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    #440
    TomTomTim
    Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    ollkiller wrote: »
    If the shoe fits...


    It would fit if you proved the claim, you haven't. You're making a big leap with little to no evidence, a common tactic with people like yourself

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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    #441
    OneEightSeven
    Registered Users Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    People on here talking about her principals. She aid in an interview with Joe.ie that she's an anarcho-socialist, but doesn't seem to be very committed to her beliefs.

    She once said billionaires shouldn't exist, but she wears Nike clothes, a company owned by a man worth 32 billion. Nike also have a history of using sweatshops to manufacture their products. She wears Adidas clothes as well. They, too, have used sweatshops to manufacture their products.

    Last week, she was giving out about Apple's greed and Ireland not receiving the 12 billion they owed in tax while tweeting from her iPhone.

    She doesn't seem like a principled woman to me. More like a hypocrite.


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    #442
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    OneEightSeven wrote: »
    People on here talking about her principals. She aid in an interview with Joe.ie that she's an anarcho-socialist, but doesn't seem to be very committed to her beliefs.

    She once said billionaires shouldn't exist, but she wears Nike clothes, a company owned by a man worth 32 billion. Nike also have a history of using sweatshops to manufacture their products. She wears Adidas clothes as well. They, too, have used sweatshops to manufacture their products.

    Last week, she was giving out about Apple's greed and Ireland not receiving the 12 billion they owed in tax while tweeting from her iPhone.

    She doesn't seem like a principled woman to me. More like a hypocrite.
    People on here talking about her principals.

    Principled in the sense that she did what she said she would do, maybe read the thread instead of trying to distort it.

    As for your other critiques another guy here was giving out about her living on an island growing vegetables....it seems she can't win.

    If she's a hypocrite for the issues you outline above then she's part of a very large cohort, the purity you're arguing she should adhere to is largely impossible given the hegemony of capitalism.
    She doesn't seem like a principled woman to me. More like a hypocrite.

    I dare say that says more about you than her.


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    #443
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    MFPM wrote: »
    Principled in the sense that she did what she said she would do, maybe read the thread instead of trying to distort it.

    As for your other critiques another guy here was giving out about her living on an island growing vegetables....it seems she can't win.

    If she's a hypocrite for the issues you outline above then she's part of a very large cohort, the purity you're arguing she should adhere to is largely impossible given the hegemony of capitalism.



    I dare say that says more about you than her.
    No it doesn't


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    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,696 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    OneEightSeven wrote: »
    People on here talking about her principals. She aid in an interview with Joe.ie that she's an anarcho-socialist, but doesn't seem to be very committed to her beliefs.

    She once said billionaires shouldn't exist, but she wears Nike clothes, a company owned by a man worth 32 billion. Nike also have a history of using sweatshops to manufacture their products. She wears Adidas clothes as well. They, too, have used sweatshops to manufacture their products.

    Last week, she was giving out about Apple's greed and Ireland not receiving the 12 billion they owed in tax while tweeting from her iPhone.

    She doesn't seem like a principled woman to me. More like a hypocrite.

    Your post is useful, because it shows how those against voices like Saoirse misunderstand what it is she and others are saying.

    She is saying that a more equitable distribution of wealth would be better for all of society. Is it completely unrealistic to fathom that Nike would pay their suppliers sufficiently to mean the workers were fairly compensated and then only do business with suppliers who adhere to this rather than absolving themselves saying it is not their issue while watching their profits increase year on year?

    Is it unrealistic to fathom that Apple would pay a greater percentage than 0.005% tax in Ireland when they are one of the wealthiest companies in the world and when the Irish revenue dept can go directly to our bank accounts to take property tax payments?

    Is it unrealistic to suggest that a system in which Jeff Bezos is the worlds wealthiest person while his company issues adult diapers to their workers because they do not allow them sufficient toilet breaks?

    Your argument is the same as that levied at Greta in the form of 'she used a car to get to a climate summit, she's such a hypocrite'.

    I mean, it's so disingenuous I find it very concerning that it has to be pointed out what 'exactly' it is they are saying, you, and others, are doing Nike's/Apple/Amazons work for them in negating any voice which would challenge the above practices.


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    #445
    MFPM
    Registered Users Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Edgware wrote: »
    No it doesn't

    Another slam dunk argument by you!:rolleyes:


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