2020 Executive Officer Civil Service

MFPM

Dublintigger wrote: »

Hi folks,

Where are the online test samples that we can practice with??

Follow the link. http://www.quickstart360.co.uk/runtesteo.aspx

Dublintigger

MFPM wrote: »

Follow the link. http://www.quickstart360.co.uk/runtesteo.aspx

Thanks a mill

UpBack1234

anplaya27 wrote: »

Link for pdf application doesnt seem to work

This is why I always recommend not leaving things to the last minute lol - Make sure you're not using Chrome or a mobile device and I hope you can get it done in the next hour or so mate!

floorpie

anplaya27 wrote: »

Link for pdf application doesnt seem to work

Download it and don't try to open in a browser

Mikefitzs

Application done. Good luck everyone.

Mikefitzs

UpBack1234 wrote: »

This is why I always recommend not leaving things to the last minute lol - Make sure you're not using Chrome or a mobile device and I hope you can get it done in the next hour or so mate!

Right click on the downloaded file and open with Adobe Reader.

Gus Ivey

MFPM wrote: »

Just keep practising, the numerical isn't taken into account so you just need to pass, try do as well as you can on the verbal reasoning to boost your OOM. They aren't easy and because they are timed it's tougher.

Are you saying that numerical is just pass or fail ? If you scrape a pass or get 100% it doesn't matter?

Verbal only counts for your Order of Merit?

What about the 3rd test, the situational one? Does that count towards your OOM or just pass or fail?

Where did you get this information by the way?

Kamu

Gus Ivey wrote: »

Are you saying that numerical is just pass or fail ? If you scrape a pass or get 100% it doesn't matter?

Verbal only counts for your Order of Merit?

What about the 3rd test, the situational one? Does that count towards your OOM or just pass or fail?

Where did you get this information by the way?

Numerical is a pass/fail thing, only thing that matters is getting over the passing rate.
Your order of merit is based on verbal and situational.

When the tests are released, it'll be in the information booklet.

November Golf

Stage 1- Online Test Link

A link to the actual online test will be sent to candidates’ Messageboards in advance of the test-taking window. It is anticipated that candidates will receive a link to their Stage 1 online test by 10th August 2020.If you do not receive communication to your message board by 10th August 2020 you should email Largevolumerecruitment5@publicjobs.ie

Candidates who have not completed the online test before the deadline will be deemed to be no longer interested in this competition and their application will receive no further consideration.

Green farmer

Kamu wrote: »

Numerical is a pass/fail thing, only thing that matters is getting over the passing rate.
Your order of merit is based on verbal and situational.

When the tests are released, it'll be in the information booklet.

Will you have to do all three tests without break ? Or can you do one one day, save it and another the next day ?

November Golf

Green farmer wrote: »

Will you have to do all three tests without break ? Or can you do one one day, save it and another the next day ?

You can do each test separtately as long as all are completed before the deadline.

In saying that, as with EO 2019, i would imagine the next stage is just the assessment questionaire on its own.

Green farmer

Mike Foxtrot wrote: »

You can do each test separtately as long as all are completed before the deadline.

In saying that, as with EO 2019, i would imagine the next stage is just the assessment questionaire on its own.

Fair enough, we'll know either way soon anyway

Clare122445

Mike Foxtrot wrote: »

Stage 1- Online Test Link

A link to the actual online test will be sent to candidates’ Messageboards in advance of the test-taking window. It is anticipated that candidates will receive a link to their Stage 1 online test by 10th August 2020.If you do not receive communication to your message board by 10th August 2020 you should email Largevolumerecruitment5@publicjobs.ie

Candidates who have not completed the online test before the deadline will be deemed to be no longer interested in this competition and their application will receive no further consideration.

Has there been any indication to when the deadline is. How long do you normally get to do them?
Which tests are Stage 1 ?

TIA

Gus Ivey

Clare122445 wrote: »

Has there been any indication to when the deadline is. How long do you normally get to do them?
Which tests are Stage 1 ?

TIA

3 tests:

Numerical
Verbal
Situational

Roughly 30mins for each one

Sligo198r

gestappo wrote: »

Yes - Log into publicjobs and go to 'my applications', click on 'update' and you can edit it.

I ticked both also and didn't get to change it. Is that an issue?

Clare122445

Gus Ivey wrote: »

3 tests:

Numerical
Verbal
Situational

Roughly 30mins for each one

Oh I got it into my head they were stage two and the scenarios & like me, not like me where next
F***

thanks though

delishdoughnut

Mike Foxtrot wrote: »

You can do each test separtately as long as all are completed before the deadline.

In saying that, as with EO 2019, i would imagine the next stage is just the assessment questionaire on its own.

Is the assessment questionaire not the 3 tests ie. stage 1?

sallydolly40

Gus Ivey wrote: »

3 tests:

Numerical
Verbal
Situational

Roughly 30mins for each one

This is not the way the most recent eo comp was done. Is situational not for CO?

Anyway last comp was questionaire stage 1.

Stage 2 they called groups of people based on location and oom in stage 1 for supervised tests. They had got rid of the online test because you had to verify these results being supervised anyway.

Stage 2 was verbal and numerical about 12 mins each.

Then you sat the E-tray on same day timed for 90 mins i think it was.

Stage 3 would then be interview depending on OOM from stage 2.

Whether that changes with Covid back to online I dont know but the above is wrong for how they run these. Online test would need to be verified with supervision. Its possible they will just do them with web cam. This can be monitored on the other end.

Samuel T. Cogley

Clare122445 wrote: »

Oh I got it into my head they were stage two and the scenarios & like me, not like me where next
F***

thanks though

Stage 1: Scenario tests
Stage 2: The numerical, reading comprehension yoke, and the 'e-tray' job simulation.
Stage 3: Interview

Each stage will alter your order of merit but not change the batch you're in which will come from stage 1.

Clare122445

Thanks guys that's brilliant news

Dublintigger

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Stage 1: Scenario tests
Stage 2: The numerical, reading comprehension yoke, and the 'e-tray' job simulation.
Stage 3: Interview

Each stage will alter your order of merit but not change the batch you're in which will come from stage 1.

Damn the e-tray - and I'm not sure if there is any prep you can do for this or is there?

Samuel T. Cogley

Dublintigger wrote: »

Damn the e-tray - and I'm not sure if there is any prep you can do for this or is there?

They give you a practice one before the assessment but it's nowhere near as long or as intense. IIRC you have to draft a letter, answer a few emails, take a couple of phone calls (text based) and do an activity. The activity will be quite complex and involve something like scheduling 20 meetings based on the initial instructions and changing situation based on the phone calls and emails.

As daunting as it sounds, perfection is not the pass-mark. Pressing submit though, that's the trick which some people forget :pac:

AlohaLights

Can you change your location preferences after submission?

MFPM

AlohaLights wrote: »

Can you change your location preferences after submission?

No, once the closing date and time has passed, that's it, no changes possible.

November Golf

Clare122445 wrote: »

Has there been any indication to when the deadline is. How long do you normally get to do them?
Which tests are Stage 1 ?

TIA

The deadline is the 17 Aug and I think its just the Assessment Questionaire for Stage 1.

In EO 2019 the Verbal and Numerical reasoning was stage 2.

November Golf

delishdoughnut wrote: »

Is the assessment questionaire not the 3 tests ie. stage 1?

No the AQ is the personality and situational judgement test.

I think Verbal and Numerical Reasoning are stage 2.

November Golf

Sligo198r wrote: »

I ticked both also and didn't get to change it. Is that an issue?

I would suggest you email them.

Its would be fine until interview but if you get called for interview on the interdepartment panel and your not eligible it may cause problems for you.

Samuel T. Cogley

As I was doing the same in the CO thread here's the salary scale.

30,278 – 32,036 – 33,028 – 34,965 – 36,702 – 38,380 – 40,053 – 41,691 – 43,346 – 44,954 – 46,614 – 47,712 – LSI 1 49,274 – LSI 2 50,834

LSI 1 is after three years at the maximum, three years after that sees LSI 2.

You can add 2% to the above from 1st September.

You MAY skip points 4 and 8 but I'm not 100% sure on the eligibility of that. Payday is fortnightly on a Thursday.

Ollie321

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

As I was doing the same in the CO thread here's the salary scale.

30,278 – 32,036 – 33,028 – 34,965 – 36,702 – 38,380 – 40,053 – 41,691 – 43,346 – 44,954 – 46,614 – 47,712 – LSI 1 49,274 – LSI 2 50,834

LSI 1 is after three years at the maximum, three years after that sees LSI 2.

You can add 2% to the above from 1st September.

You MAY skip points 4 and 8 but I'm not 100% sure on the eligibility of that. Payday is fortnightly on a Thursday.

Do you know what the pension contribution is?

Samuel T. Cogley

Ollie321 wrote: »

Do you know what the pension contribution is?

I *THINK* it's about €35 a fortnight.

Edit: It's a little over €40 a fortnight at point 1 on the scale.

Edit: YMMV but you come out with about €875 net per fortnight.