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Crew cab/ passenger jeep

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    wrangler wrote: »
    It's a ford, that'd be enough reason for me to leave it where it is,

    I have the older 2.5 version and couldn't fault it so far. However I agree that from watching groups on facebook that the newer models especially the 2.2 seem to give more bother than you'd expect from a jeep that's sub 10 year old. I know a fair few lads that have changed from landcruisers to the 3.2 ranger and they haven't been disappointed as regards pulling power. I'd reckon that the ranger is starting to rival the landcruiser for sales of second hand jeeps at least locally. I'm not that gone on the newer rangers simply because there too big and awkward imo and I don't think the bodywork will withstand much abuse over time, too much plastic and chrome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I have the older 2.5 version and couldn't fault it so far. However I agree that from watching groups on facebook that the newer models especially the 2.2 seem to give more bother than you'd expect from a jeep that's sub 10 year old. I know a fair few lads that have changed from landcruisers to the 3.2 ranger and they haven't been disappointed as regards pulling power. I'd reckon that the ranger is starting to rival the landcruiser for sales of second hand jeeps at least locally. I'm not that gone on the newer rangers simply because there too big and awkward imo and I don't think the bodywork will withstand much abuse over time, too much plastic and chrome.

    Just had a bad experience with a new escort so won't be going ford again


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    wrangler wrote: »
    Just had a bad experience with a new escort so won't be going ford again

    My father bought a new fiesta year's back and had a similar experience. It gave endless bother from new and he got very little satisfaction from Ford.


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    arctictree wrote: »
    Exactly same here, have an 05 SWB land cruiser from new but really need the back seats. Are we the only european country with these ridiculous rules? I hear the jeeps all come in with back seats and they get ripped out in rosslare.

    It looks like a pick up is really the only option if you need back seats.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    My father bought a new fiesta year's back and had a similar experience. It gave endless bother from new and he got very little satisfaction from Ford.

    Our escort was weird, there turned out to be a troublesome high powered engine in it, I think they were using filters for the sierra when they eventually identified the engine. whatever market it was destined for.
    Nothing would come near it for speed when it was actually going, had a few near misses in it as the brakes were giving trouble as well, OH went in on a petrol forecourt one day and had to drive out the other side where they failed completely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    Fix
    Often
    Repair
    Daily.








    Aka FORD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    josephsoap wrote: »
    It looks like a pick up is really the only option if you need back seats.....

    Fraid so..... the five seater commercial land cruisers are a fierce price, they seem to be loaded for insurance too or maybe the people I know with them are high risk


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have a 2010 Toyota Rav 2.2L rated to pull 2 ton. It dose that at its ease. Road tax is 390/year its has everything from leather seats to cruise control. About 40mpg normally and 26 towing. Cost me 7k last year. It has 215k km on it. Great option

    Is that on the original engine, lots of those 2.2s were troublesome & Toyota changed them for lots of folk. You'd not see many being worked hard TBH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭leoch


    Neighbour selling a very good low mileage swb landcr think he was it from new a 10 reg wat would it be worth ???


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  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It'd be 20k on a forecourt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Sacrolyte wrote: »
    Fix
    Often
    Repair
    Daily.








    Aka FORD.

    Found on road dead

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Augeo wrote: »
    Is that on the original engine, lots of those 2.2s were troublesome & Toyota changed them for lots of folk. You'd not see many being worked hard TBH.

    The 180s suffered a fair few problems. The 135 and 150 ones were in general much less problematic.

    A few 150 avensis taxis have been on dd with over 500,000km

    That said if the head gasket goes they're effectively a write off so always best be very vigilant for overheating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    josephsoap wrote: »
    Hi, just wondering did you purchase after?

    Kind of in a similar situation myself only I have a peach of SWB Landcruiser, which I think would nearly kill me to sell but I need back seats.

    Not yet. Waiting for a bargain!!! Going to get rid of the two old yolks and buy a 15-18 Hilux or d-max. Leaning towards a d-max at the minute. Have a few months tax on the old yolks yet so no panic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    wrangler wrote: »
    It's a ford, that'd be enough reason for me to leave it where it is,

    that hasnt been true in more than twenty years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    Found on road dead

    Fast Only Rolling Downhill


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,704 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I have the older 2.5 version and couldn't fault it so far. However I agree that from watching groups on facebook that the newer models especially the 2.2 seem to give more bother than you'd expect from a jeep that's sub 10 year old. I know a fair few lads that have changed from landcruisers to the 3.2 ranger and they haven't been disappointed as regards pulling power. I'd reckon that the ranger is starting to rival the landcruiser for sales of second hand jeeps at least locally. I'm not that gone on the newer rangers simply because there too big and awkward imo and I don't think the bodywork will withstand much abuse over time, too much plastic and chrome.

    What's it like with a full box behind Albert? Agree with you on the body panels, bonnet wouldn't be too heavy anyway.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    blue5000 wrote: »
    What's it like with a full box behind Albert? Agree with you on the body panels, bonnet wouldn't be too heavy anyway.

    I've a 12×6 double axle so I don't bring huge loads but it's well capable of handling the full of it. Yes you'd know it was there when full and would want to drive accordingly but I've never doubted it's ability on winding hilly roads once driven within reason as regards changing down the gears ect.

    The biggest fault I'd have in relation to towing is this. There too highly geared in first and reverse particularly when taking off with a load on any sort of an incline. I'd generally put it into the 4low box especially when in reverse otherwise you have to ride the clutch. I've been warned about winding up the transmission on solid surfaces but I'd only drive it handy and try to avoid locking the wheels hard.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    came across this stuff for underbody treatment.... Seems to be for prevention rather than cure, annual application maybe but DIY & not overly expensive.
    Might have a peak under the sorento to see what state it's in after 90k kms & 30 months...

    https://www.lanoguard.co.uk/collections/moto/products/lanoguard-vehicle-underbody-and-chassis-care-kit?utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=paid+social&utm_campaign=Lookalikes+Underbody+Men+35&utm_content=Video&fbclid=PAAab5OfiCenlVAOAeTrTLhdswYznnZFljl38aLTK1imchn5a_QNgBUt1cZe4

    https://youtu.be/1awO8hZ9KvE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Anyone got experience of using an X5 to tow?
    They have 3.5t towing capacity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    Anyone got experience of using an X5 to tow?
    They have 3.5t towing capacity.

    Bump, would also be interested in one of these 2008 - 2012 year range.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Brother has a 2011 X5 . Good to tow ,very nippy compared to an LC or the like , probably a bit more thirsty .
    He had a 2005 X5 for about 4 years and it was absolutely bullet proof , he doesn't have the new one that long yet so I don't know will it be as lucky for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Bullocks wrote: »
    Brother has a 2011 X5 . Good to tow ,very nippy compared to an LC or the like , probably a bit more thirsty .
    He had a 2005 X5 for about 4 years and it was absolutely bullet proof , he doesn't have the new one that long yet so I don't know will it be as lucky for him

    Is it a manual or auto box?


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've never seen a manual x5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭amacca


    Anyone got experience of using an X5 to tow?
    They have 3.5t towing capacity.

    2006 ones don't afaik...the plate on the 2006 3.0D model only states 2500kg or 1950kg (I've forgotten which but its not at 3.5T anyway)

    I used that model to tow heavy loads for a couple of years, it could do it but I never felt it was comfortable doing it if that's any help?

    Had an old model 2.8 pajero that didnt seem to struggle as much with similar loads......heard newer models of them have a clutch made of cheddar though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    If its cheap tax and passenger seats then maybe a hybrid could be an option 170 a year to tax cheap insurance too . I had several crew cabs l200 hilux etc then I brought something I thought I would for the farm a petrol plug in hybrid and it is the nicest on the road that I have ever driven to date and thats out of probably 20 vehicles over the years. It suits me for towing a few times a year but would not be an everyday workhorse. I wrote about it here if anyone's interested https://blackfieldfarm.com/outlander-hybrid/


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You reckon 15 or 20 mpg :eek:
    That's nuts.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Augeo wrote: »
    You reckon 15 or 20 mpg :eek:
    That's nuts.

    I think that was 15-200mpg.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    greysides wrote: »
    I think that was 15-200mpg.

    Yes if the battery is charged and I am only doing short trips It is really fuel efficient as its running on electricity most of the time but if I have a trailer with a few cows on the back and battery is empty it will drink petrol but that is not very often. Overall its cheap to run for me but a lot would depend on how much driving per day someone is doing and how often they are using it for towing. With the battery power it adds a lot of torque to the 2.0 engine.
    It still would not match a low gear box going up a steep dirt road but its not bad for a 4wd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Is it a manual or auto box?

    Auto


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭amacca


    djmc wrote: »
    Yes if the battery is charged and I am only doing short trips It is really fuel efficient as its running on electricity most of the time but if I have a trailer with a few cows on the back and battery is empty it will drink petrol but that is not very often. Overall its cheap to run for me but a lot would depend on how much driving per day someone is doing and how often they are using it for towing. With the battery power it adds a lot of torque to the 2.0 engine.
    It still would not match a low gear box going up a steep dirt road but its not bad for a 4wd

    whats it rated at for towing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭doctorchopper


    Is it a manual or auto box?

    Don't think you can get a manual X5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    Around) 1500kg rated which is not a lot but I have towed more than that around the farm. Still fine for 2 or 3 handy cattle. I keep Small cattle 😁


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Don't think you can get a manual X5

    Says here your can:

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-cars/used-car-buying-guide-bmw-x5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭doctorchopper


    never heard or seen one with a manual or petrol, but there's always that unicorn :). Newer hybrids will be auto only.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There was a decent amount of petrol ones bought before the motor tax changes in 2008. Used to be loads on done deal after 2008 also :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    Would an X5 with an auto box be fit to back a full triple axel 14 foot trailer to up Dowra mart ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Gawddawgonnit, of this parish, had an X5 I think.
    Be able to answer most questions about them if you messaged him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭jd_12345


    Looking for storage boxes for the back of an open top 2015 mitsubishi l200?
    Something like this: https://www.hardtopsuk.com/hardtops-and-accessories/mitsubishi/l200-mk6-long-bed-09/double-cab/mld630
    Any suggestions?

    Edit- ideally I'd like something made of plastic cause of rust and ease of movement


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    jd_12345 wrote: »
    Looking for storage boxes for the back of an open top 2015 mitsubishi l200?
    Something like this: https://www.hardtopsuk.com/hardtops-and-accessories/mitsubishi/l200-mk6-long-bed-09/double-cab/mld630
    Any suggestions?

    I was looking to do something similar on my Ford Ranger so I bought a second hand site or job box off donedeal. It's a similar concept to what it's in your link although it's not shaped to fit the exact profile of the pickup bed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    You could probably get one made reasonable enough from a metal fabrication specialist shouldn't cost that much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    kerryjack wrote: »
    You could probably get one made reasonable enough from a metal fabrication specialist shouldn't cost that much.

    If he's a metal fabrication specialist jack,it wouldn't stop at €1000k to fit in round the wheel arches


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    ruwithme wrote: »
    If he's a metal fabrication specialist jack,it wouldn't stop at €1000k to fit in round the wheel arches

    Hence why I suggested the site box, I think I priced a new one at around €320 although I'd imagine that was plus vat. There not a replacement for a canopy but I throw a pair of wellies, boots and assorted wet gear and junk into it that would clutter up the cab. I wouldn't leave anything especially value or fragile in it though.

    I was looking at donedeal one lunchtime and spotted a good second hand one outside Roscommon town. A quick phone call and some measurements suggested it would be a tight fit but I chanced my luck. It fitted perfectly and we had a deal at €100. I stopped for a supermacs in Roscommon and a look at the weanling trade, as pleasant an evening out as any.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    ruwithme wrote: »
    If he's a metal fabrication specialist jack,it wouldn't stop at €1000k to fit in round the wheel arches

    Ya your right that's the way it's gone, everything like that is big money now, but of course these companies have spent huge money on machines and technology and don't work for nothing but I am sure there is some lad in a shed somewhere that would make one handy enough only to find such a lad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭doctorchopper


    If its just for small things have a look at swing cases https://4x4bitz.ie/shop/ols/products/nissan-navara-np300-2016-on-swing-case-tool-storage-box-right-side, they are plastic but do lock and are dry. I have one for straps and that sort of things. they are good as they don't take up all the room like a site box and sit level with the truck bed


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭jd_12345


    If its just for small things have a look at swing cases https://4x4bitz.ie/shop/ols/products/nissan-navara-np300-2016-on-swing-case-tool-storage-box-right-side, they are plastic but do lock and are dry. I have one for straps and that sort of things. they are good as they don't take up all the room like a site box and sit level with the truck bed

    That website looks class! The swing out thing looks perfect or this : https://4x4bitz.ie/shop/ols/products/aeroklas-tool-box-abs-plastic
    Thanks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,782 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Indept inbred review of a 2005 Mitsubishi L200.

    https://youtu.be/_o0BaQaWa14


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Anyone got experience of using an X5 to tow?
    They have 3.5t towing capacity.

    Bring More Wrenches

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Indept inbred review of a 2005 Mitsubishi L200.....

    Woeful banter in that.


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