2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Quin_Dub

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

What did Trump and his acolytes think would happen when he made triggering people his shtick? What did they expect? I don't get this.

What they expected and have always expected is that they will be allowed to do whatever they want without any negative implications.

He's the President after all and he has an article 2 don't you know!!!

Professor Moriarty

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

What did Trump and his acolytes think would happen when he made triggering people his shtick? What did they expect? I don't get this.

He gave voice to latent conservative views and was a push back against liberal views. People who didn't agree with many politically correct views finally had a strongman who would espouse their opinions. Today, he's doubling down on those views and pushing polarisation. It's all he can do as he's losing the middle ground (such as it is). His best hope is to cement the loyalty of his base with even more extreme tweets and comments while painting Biden & Co as dangerous lefties. Throw in denigration of postal voting, making it difficult for Democrat-leaning voters to actually vote and promote the possibility of voter fraud. Aspersions, division and populism. It's all he has.

ancapailldorcha

Quin_Dub wrote: »

What they expected and have always expected is that they will be allowed to do whatever they want without any negative implications.

He's the President after all and he has an article 2 don't you know!!!

Silly me.

What's an Article 2?

ohnonotgmail

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Silly me.

What's an Article 2?

Article 2 of the constitution. it describes the job of the president.

jamule

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Article 2 of the constitution. it describes the job of the president.

Has anyone told Donny about this?

ancapailldorcha

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Article 2 of the constitution. it describes the job of the president.

I googled it but I didn't have time to read the Wiki properly.

Quin_Dub

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Silly me.

What's an Article 2?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Article 2 of the constitution. it describes the job of the president.

jamule wrote: »

Has anyone told Donny about this?

Article Two does indeed layout the role and powers vested in the Presidency..

Trump however took a slightly different view.

"I have an Article 2, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president." – President Donald Trump, July 23, 2019

Outlaw Pete

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

He's a con man, a liar, a narcissist, a bigot

Funny, cause that's exactly how I'd describe Joe Biden, given that he has a proven history of trying to con people into seeing him as something he is not and never was. He's just using the same tactics now that he used when he ran for president the first time, saying what he knows people want to hear. That's all he has and all he'll ever have. The chap's been in politics for over 40 years and shown time and again that he is all talk.

Couple of examples of how easily this man will lie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw1PuAbxTW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCJMF7mflGE

duploelabs

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Funny, cause that's exactly how I'd describe Joe Biden, given that he has a proven history of trying to con people into seeing him as something he is not and never was. He's just using the same tactics now that he used when he ran for president the first time, saying what he knows people want to hear. That's all he has and all he'll ever have. The chap's been in politics for over 40 years and shown time and again that he is all talk.

Couple of examples of how easily this man will lie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw1PuAbxTW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCJMF7mflGE

I really missed your whataboutisms while you're gone Pete

Leroy42

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Funny, cause that's exactly how I'd describe Joe Biden, given that he has a proven history of trying to con people into seeing him as something he is not and never was. He's just using the same tactics now that he used when he ran for president the first time, saying what he knows people want to hear. That's all he has and all he'll ever have. The chap's been in politics for over 40 years and shown time and again that he is all talk.

Couple of examples of how easily this man will lie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw1PuAbxTW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCJMF7mflGE

So in 40 years of politics, Biden has jumped positions and lied a few times.

In 4 years, Trump constantly changes position and has documented 20k+ lies.

You aren't trying to equate them are you?

jamule

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Funny, cause that's exactly how I'd describe Joe Biden, given that he has a proven history of trying to con people into seeing him as something he is not and never was. He's just using the same tactics now that he used when he ran for president the first time, saying what he knows people want to hear. That's all he has and all he'll ever have. The chap's been in politics for over 40 years and shown time and again that he is all talk.

Couple of examples of how easily this man will lie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw1PuAbxTW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCJMF7mflGE

He is fooked then, the guy he is up against is so honest and never lies and definetely never hires actual con men.

extra gravy

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Funny, cause that's exactly how I'd describe Joe Biden, given that he has a proven history of trying to con people into seeing him as something he is not and never was. He's just using the same tactics now that he used when he ran for president the first time, saying what he knows people want to hear. That's all he has and all he'll ever have. The chap's been in politics for over 40 years and shown time and again that he is all talk.

Couple of examples of how easily this man will lie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw1PuAbxTW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCJMF7mflGE

Speaking of lies, have you got the dates of those images you posted claiming Biden was out and about shaking hands with people without a mask?

Billy Mays

I for one welcome the return of Outlaw Petezagate

Billy Mays

Billy Mays wrote: »

I for one welcome the return of Outlaw Petezagate

LOL you think they went away?

Pete not addressing the fact he posted images of Joe Biden and claimed they happened after the pandemic. Which was a lie...

mcmoustache

Deleted User wrote: »

Pete not addressing the fact he posted images of Joe Biden and claimed they happened after the pandemic. Which was a lie...

He could easily put his hands up and admit that he was duped by magaWWG1WGA69StormJesus again and just move on.

Is that deceptive post still there? Or did it get updated with an admission that at least one picture existed pre-lockdown? Any attempt at correcting the error?

That's the difference between an honest mistake and lying. Everyone makes mistakes and endeavour to correct them. A liar on the other hand wants the misinformation to remain. That's why actual news publications issue retractions and corrections while misinformation makes no such attempt.

duploelabs

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Pete not addressing the fact he posted images of Joe Biden and claimed they happened after the pandemic. Which was a lie...

And then following up with a whataboutism, that's worth about two fingers in the drinking game or do we skull?

Timberrrrrrrr

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Pete not addressing the fact he posted images of Joe Biden and claimed they happened after the pandemic. Which was a lie...

And never will, They just ignore any questions knowing eventually people will forget as the thread moves on.

Quin_Dub

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And never will, They just ignore any questions knowing eventually people will forget as the thread moves on.

It's directly from the playbook

Steve Bannon, the former head of Breitbart News and chief strategist for Donald Trump. “The Democrats don’t matter,” Bannon reportedly said in 2018. “The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with sh!t.”

This idea isn’t new, but Bannon articulated it about as well as anyone can. The press ideally should sift fact from fiction and give the public the information it needs to make enlightened political choices. If you short-circuit that process by saturating the ecosystem with misinformation and overwhelm the media’s ability to mediate, then you can disrupt the democratic process.

Penn

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And never will, They just ignore any questions knowing eventually people will forget as the thread moves on.

Yeah. Wait in the shadows until someone says something about Trump to which they can reply with their pre-prepared collection of cherrypicked rebuttal points (like if you call Trump a racist and they post clips of Trump praising random black people). Then disappear again when challenged on something they don't have pre-prepared rebuttals for.

Billy Mays

Pete is only interested in the TRUTH iirc

ohnonotgmail

Donald trump being honest for once
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7641233/Donald-Trump-makes-awkward-joke-Melania-wouldnt-cry-shot.html

namloc1980

Biden interview on ABC. He answered questions and even follow up questions. He didn't drool all over the place or break down into a senile rant. Just a politician answering political questions in a coherent and logical manner. No rants about mosquitoes or sharks. Kind of refreshing to be honest and very disappointing for the Trumpers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHMVmuRnaik

Outlaw Pete

namloc1980 wrote: »

Just a politician answering political questions in a coherent and logical manner. No rants about mosquitoes or sharks.

lol - logical??

It was a softball interview where most of the questions were posed to help him and even then the guy was talking nonsense throughout. Most notably when at 11m50s he said:

"I'm also someone who has..."

..and then nervously coughed and said something else. My guess is that he was about to lie again about his role in the civil rights movement and wisely changed his mind:

namloc1980

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

lol - logical??

It was a softball interview where most of the questions were posed to help him and even then the guy was talking nonsense throughout. Most notably when at 11m50s he said:



..and then nervously coughed and said something else. My guess is that he was about to lie again about his role in the civil rights movement and wisely changed his mind:

Well as a Trumpist you'd know all about softball interviews. I know it's weird for you to watch a politician answering questions and not ranting and raving about sharks and fake news and conspiracy theories and about person, woman, man, camera, tv. I get that. It'll take time to get used to it again.

Hammer Archer

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

It was a softball interview where most of the questions were posed to help him and even then the guy was talking nonsense throughout.

Softball interview, you say?

jamule

namloc1980 wrote: »

Biden interview on ABC. He answered questions and even follow up questions. He didn't drool all over the place or break down into a senile rant. Just a politician answering political questions in a coherent and logical manner. No rants about mosquitoes or sharks. Kind of refreshing to be honest and very disappointing for the Trumpers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHMVmuRnaik

CNN -

Orange Disorderists devastated as Biden makes it through an interview. However in a glimmer of hope trump delusionist Pete the outlaw points out he almost lied or stuttered after 10mins, so he defintely going senile.

Leroy42

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

lol - logical??

It was a softball interview where most of the questions were posed to help him and even then the guy was talking nonsense throughout. Most notably when at 11m50s he said:



..and then nervously coughed and said something else. My guess is that he was about to lie again about his role in the civil rights movement and wisely changed his mind:

Wait, hold on. So what you are saying is that mid-way through an interview, in fact, midway through an answer, Biden was thinking ahead of what he was about to say, thought it might not be the right thing to say, so changed his mind and continued on with a different answer.

How the hell did a dementia suffering liar manage to do that?

And you have created an entirely made up idea of what you think Biden was about to say. You have no idea what he was going to say, but you made it up.

namloc1980

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Most notably when at 11m50s he said:



..and then nervously coughed and said something else. My guess is that he was about to lie again about his role in the civil rights movement and wisely changed his mind:

So because Biden didn't breakdown into a drooling mess like the Dear Leader told you he would, you're now at the point where a cough and a made up scenario in your head of what Biden "might" have said is the only thing you can takeaway from that interview! :pac:

PropJoe10

Deleted User wrote: »

Pete not addressing the fact he posted images of Joe Biden and claimed they happened after the pandemic. Which was a lie...

You might not have prior experience of that poster, but he never acknowledges anything. He generally just dumps a load of nonsense into these threads and hits the minty highway for a while - then, rinse and repeat. It's been happening for months. Just wanted to give you a heads up.