2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

ohnonotgmail

threeball wrote: »

Why does Donnie jr's missus look like his stepmothers doppelganger. Seriously fcuked up family, dad wants to bang his daughter, son wants to bang his stepmom. They're a mullet and a banjo away from their base.

she is a dollar store Melania.

threeball

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

she is a dollar store Melania.

And hes a not even a dollar store Donnie, but you can see the trend.

ohnonotgmail

threeball wrote: »

And hes a not even a dollar store Donnie, but you can see the trend.

and oddly she is older than melania.

duploelabs

threeball wrote: »

Why does Donnie jr's missus look like his stepmothers doppelganger. Seriously fcuked up family, dad wants to bang his daughter, son wants to bang his stepmom. They're a mullet and a banjo away from their base.

Twofer on the surgeon's price

Jimbob1977

Trump needs to target Biden on law & order.

It's about Trump's only path to victory.

The odds will shorten as cities experience civil unrest.

Quin_Dub

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Oh dear - 1st day of the RNC and his favourite poll dips , or should I say "Collapses" given that a 2 point increase was called a "surge" surely a two point drop after the first day of his convention counts as a collapse??.

Oh-oh..

2nd Day of the convention , 2nd day of declining support with the only pollster that ever shows positive numbers for him.

Surely it's a "Collapse" now??

ohnonotgmail

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Oh-oh..

2nd Day of the convention , 2nd day of declining support with the only pollster that ever shows positive numbers for him.

Surely it's a "Collapse" now??

back exactly where he was a week ago

MisterAnarchy

Carfacemandog wrote: »

The irony of your first paragraph followed by immediately praising Trump for Obama and Biden's economy is a great example of how the blind, unquestioning, loyalty-abive-all-else worship of Trump is said to be beyond satire.

Yet when faced with a challenge, Trump proved as big a failure as many of his business ventures have been, both in terms of social unrest and economic collapse.

Yes ,thats right, everybody who votes for Trump is blind, unquestioning and worships the ground beneath his feet.
It goes without saying.

There can be no middle ground with some posters on this thread.

greenfield21

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Trump needs to target Biden on law & order.

It's about Trump's only path to victory.

The odds will shorten as cities experience civil unrest.

The odds have already shortened, if trump gets a boost this week then he has got this.

LessOutragePlz

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Trump needs to target Biden on law & order.

It's about Trump's only path to victory.

The odds will shorten as cities experience civil unrest.

I think he's been getting that message across loud and clear.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1296589900804915202?s=19

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1295777044765143040?s=19

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1295165122974015495?s=19

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1274537451436994561?s=19

Quin_Dub

greenfield21 wrote: »

The odds have already shortened, if trump gets a boost this week then he has got this.

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Oh-oh..

2nd Day of the convention , 2nd day of declining support with the only pollster that ever shows positive numbers for him.

Surely it's a "Collapse" now??

Doesn't look like he's getting that boost so far.

Igotadose

threeball wrote: »

Why does Donnie jr's missus look like his stepmothers doppelganger. Seriously fcuked up family, dad wants to bang his daughter, son wants to bang his stepmom. They're a mullet and a banjo away from their base.

Guilfoyle gets around and clearly has a thing for the politically connected - remember she's been married twice, divorced prior to her adulterous affair with #IMPOTUS jr., who was married at the time to the mother of his 4 children, but has since divorced from her.

Lest we forget, Kimberly Guilfoyle was married to Gavin Newsom. So, she clearly likes some Democratic politicians....

Worst thing of all, she's eligible for Irish citizenship through her father.

Carfacemandog

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Trump needs to target Biden on law & order.

It's about Trump's only path to victory.

The odds will shorten as cities experience civil unrest.

Its hard to run on law and order when so much of your campaign team from last time out are currently in prison, or only out because you pardoned/commuted their sentences without reason, and when the only reason he isn't there with them is immunity from a senate that will acquit him while openly admitting his guilt.

Outside of his base who would support anything to leave his mouth, even if it is the opposite of what he said teh day previous which they also supported (which has happened countless times already), it won't fly.

All he had to run on was not messing up Obama and Biden's economy, but now even that lies in tatters along with 182,500 dead and so his only remaining hope is stopping enough people from voting in 'blue' and even 'purple' areas. Which is why DeJoy is doing what he is doing with the postal service.

Quin_Dub

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Doesn't look like he's getting that boost so far.

Lots of people won't admit they are going to vote for Trump, even on polls.

Quin_Dub

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

back exactly where he was a week ago

Exactly - But Trump shouts from the roof top every time it briefly blips above the 50% mark as if it means something.

His support is incredibly stable albeit record breakingly low.

But getting all excited about a single data point in daily polling is utterly stupid.. It's the trend that matters and his trend is consistently below 50%

Quin_Dub

Deleted User wrote: »

Lots of people won't admit they are going to vote for Trump, even on polls.

Jesus - This tripe again?


There is NO SILENT MAJORITY.

Never has been , isn't one now.

Carfacemandog

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Yes ,thats right, everybody who votes for Trump is blind, unquestioning and worships the ground beneath his feet.
It goes without saying.

There can be no middle ground with some posters on this thread.

My comment was in direct response to your predictable need to shoehorn in whataboutism about as you put it, "messiah Obama".

Thanks for proving my point about being beyond parody.

Overheal

Trevor Noah breaks down the signals analysis from the RNC

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1298625442795094022?s=20

Their messaging is indeed very schizophrenic.

namloc1980

Overheal wrote: »

Trevor Noah breaks down the signals analysis from the RNC

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1298625442795094022?s=20

Their messaging is indeed very schizophrenic.

He's on the ball in fairness. The messaging is chaotic and the picture they paint of America in chaos is laughable when you think that it's their guy is in the White House for the last 3 and a half years. Trump has overseen the dystopian nightmare they are painting but you know whose fault it really is...... Obama!

Quin_Dub

namloc1980 wrote: »

He's on the ball in fairness. The messaging is chaotic and the picture they paint of America in chaos is laughable when you think that it's their guy is in the White House for the last 3 and a half years. Trump has overseen the dystopian nightmare they are painting but you know whose fault it really is...... Obama!

It's deliberate.

They are desperate for it not to be a "Trump Referendum" because that only ends one way.

So the messaging is basically - "Forget that the last 4 years happened and remember all those reasons that you voted for Trump in 2016 because it's all Obamas fault"

Cody montana

Who Is Kyle Rittenhouse?
Jacob Blake Protest Shooter Is Reportedly A White Teen Affiliated With Cops
At least two people were killed in the shooting.

Some graphic videos on twitter.

Overheal

Cody montana wrote: »

Who Is Kyle Rittenhouse?
Jacob Blake Protest Shooter Is Reportedly A White Teen Affiliated With Cops
At least two people were killed in the shooting.

Some graphic videos on twitter.

A kid who grew up in Trumps America idolizing police and demonizing the left. Watch him get the Medal of Freedom from Trump

Quin_Dub

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Jesus - This tripe again?


There is NO SILENT MAJORITY.

Never has been , isn't one now.

Who said anything about a silent majority? The polls for the 2016 election certainly got it wrong, and the 2020 one could be equally off.

Leroy42

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Yes ,thats right, everybody who votes for Trump is blind, unquestioning and worships the ground beneath his feet.
It goes without saying.

There can be no middle ground with some posters on this thread.

Can there be a middle ground though? Trump has been such a disaster across so many areas that to get to a middle ground one has to make all sorts of excuses.

Is there a middle ground on how he has handled the virus? Even by his own standards he has failed.

Is there a middle ground on record unemployment, on record deficit? Is there a middle ground on him breaking the Hatch Act, or Ivanka, or KAC?

Is there a middle ground for him choosing not to call out neo nazi marches? Is there a middle ground in him wishing charged sexual predators all the best but calling on police to crack heads of protestors?

Is there a middle ground in him looking to ban Muslim immigrants and supporting people who have called for Muslims to be excluded from government jobs and Uber?

Is there a middle ground to 180k deaths 9n his watch?

There should always be a middle ground in politics, that is where the majority reside. But Trump has gone out of way to eschew the middle ground, looking only to his base and his vision.

namloc1980

This part of Don Jr speech was very North Korea dear leader-esque:

Imagine the life you want to have, one with a great job, a beautiful home, a perfect family. You can have it.

Only the dear leader can bring you happiness. Watching the RNC you can see the GOP have descended into a deep cult of personality. Fascinating really.

Leroy42

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Who said anything about a silent majority? The polls for the 2016 election certainly got it wrong, and the 2020 one could be equally off.

what did the polls say and what was the result?

Quin_Dub

Deleted User wrote: »

Who said anything about a silent majority? The polls for the 2016 election certainly got it wrong, and the 2020 one could be equally off.

No - They didn't.

This has been covered over and over again.

What happened was people don't understand statistics and data science/analytics.

The Media over-hyped the polling data showing Clinton in the lead and nationally the polls were spot on in terms of total vote. Crucially though , the Clinton lead was inside the margin of error across the board.

They were also accurate in the swing states - All the results were inside the margin of error and there was no instance where either candidate was outside those margins (above or below).

There were no "hidden" or "shy" voters that suddenly appeared to take everyone by surprise

Right now , the gap between Biden and Trump is well outside the Margin of error nationally and in multiple Swing States.

If it stays like that , the result will only go one way.

Trump can of course close that gap (and he has made some inroads in a few places , but not enough yet) but he has a long way to go to get into a place where overall victory is possible.

Overheal

The election came down to about 80,000 votes in 3 swing states. This despite losing the popular vote overall by ~3M votes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/01/donald-trump-will-be-president-thanks-to-80000-people-in-three-states/

It had nothing to do with the polls, so much as it did the thin margins in play.

Cody montana

Overheal wrote: »

A kid who grew up in Trumps America idolizing police and demonizing the left. Watch him get the Medal of Freedom from Trump

Will they mention him at the RNC tonight?

Overheal

Cody montana wrote: »

Will they mention him at the RNC tonight?

Who the hell knows. They've bumped some anti-semites off the schedule so they have room.