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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Biker79 wrote: »
    You can trust someone who has been exposed to the harsh realities of life and has come out trumps the other end.

    You should trust Biden then if that's the case. He suffered an unspeakable personal tragedy but didn't let it define him or turn him into a bitter man. What harsh realities has Trump suffered? Born with a silver spoon in his mouth and bailed out any time he got himself into trouble. They are worlds apart, both in character and experience.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,680 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Oh-oh..

    2nd Day of the convention , 2nd day of declining support with the only pollster that ever shows positive numbers for him.

    Surely it's a "Collapse" now??

    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Doesn't look like he's getting that boost so far.


    Day 3 and once again his favourite pollster shows a decline..

    Convention not going well in the polling so far..


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Overheal wrote: »
    Looking at the population of both, I don't see anywhere in the last 20 years where there is any decline in population, there is only population growth. So what are you talking about?

    It seems that SF has become a stop-off point for immigrants which contributes to this.

    Net population of Americans has dropped, as more domestic Americans are leaving the Bay Area than entering. It seems that the population figure is artificially inflated by stop-overs.

    https://www.sfgate.com/expensive-san-francisco/article/bay-area-exodus-fleeing-moving-cost-census-13778557.php

    The net domestic immigration number (-2,976) tell another story. The negative sign signifies that more American nationals left San Francisco County than moved there over the past eight years.

    This trend followed in most Bay Area counties (Sonoma County being the exception, largely due to the 2018 wildfires that devastated much of the area). Santa Clara and San Mateo counties grew by 46,048 and 16,727 people respectively, but they had negative net migration totals for domestic residents, at -99,374 and -20,966.

    The discrepancy between international and domestic migration in the Bay Area can likely be explained by what economists call "gateway cities." These cities, often planted along the coast, serve as entry points for foreigners moving to the U.S. The immigrants will register in the gateway city, but often move to other parts of California or the country within months, according to Phuong Nguyen, a research specialist at the California Department of Finance.


    It's worth observing given recent events that though the SF Bay Area is still a beacon of hope for folks looking to make it rich in the tech industry (and forced into pretty damned cramped and expensive quarters in the meantime), for being the hub of the world's technology it's telling that they can't figure out how to keep the lights on. Press conference on Aug 17th, Governor Newsom said that the power crunch was related to the fact that the sun goes down in the evening so solar doesn't work, and it hasn't been windy. Not sure how folks didn't see this coming. Or, more to the point, that they did see it coming, and CA did nothing about it. CA is absolutely terrible at infrastructure maintenance. The solution to a drought is "take shorter showers". The solution to a failing dam is to ignore it until the drought is over. and it partially fails. The solution to a power cut is to "not use power in the evenings". The solution to wildfires is to wait until the place catches fire naturally, then spend stupid amounts of money trying to put them out.

    California is a house of cards. I do miss the weather and the scenery, I don't miss the mismanagement and quality of life.
    No that's not why people are leaving. They're leaving because they can't afford to live there.

    We could afford to live there. Had a nice little house out in Dublin, complete with pool in a quiet cul-de-sac. We were fed up with the way we were living, mainly related to the state's infrastructure. If you were taking BART from Dublin to San Francisco every morning as my wife did, or driving to Oakland as I did, you'd get pretty damned tired of it pretty quickly. Before the wife moved in with me, she had an apartment in downtown SF, walking distance to her office in the Financial District. Of course, she did have to walk around the junkies at the entrance to her apartment building. That's before the amount of money that we were paying for the privilege. It just made a lot of sense for us to move, and I don't regret it one iota. We are now much less stressed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,624 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    What I find most amusing in this article about the #IMPOTUS administration ignoring domestic terrorism, is they appear to be under a mandate to not utter the phrase 'domestic terrorism.' The US has a 'violence problem.' Hmm...remember the 'radical Islamic Terrorism' stuff Fauxnews was banging on about a few years ago? So, will this administration and the #IMPOTUS use the phrase 'domestic terrorist' to characterize the Trump supporter who murdered those protestors in Kenosha?

    politico.com/news/2020/08/26/trump-domestic-extemism-homeland-security-401926


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    If that sinks Trump, great.

    It won't though. People will wise up to Biden hiding and not debating. That's unfortunately a problem for the democrats.


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    It won't though. People will wise up to Biden hiding and not debating. That's unfortunately a problem for the democrats.

    There's no indication he's hiding... And everything he's said to date makes far more sense than Trump's statements.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,604 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    It won't though. People will wise up to Biden hiding and not debating. That's unfortunately a problem for the democrats.

    He is out and about and committed to three debates, do you realise how idiotic your posts look when you continue to post this lie?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    He is out and about and committed to three debates, do you realise how idiotic your posts look when you continue to post this lie?

    It's not a lie. He's doing interviews with nobody of note.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    There's no indication he's hiding... And everything he's said to date makes far more sense than Trump's statements.

    Of course it does. Eh im not arguing for Trump here. I want Biden to come out in front of the orange loon but im fearful if he doesn't get out there and grow some balls he won't


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,604 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    It's not a lie. He's doing interviews with nobody of note.

    Who's Trump doing interviews with?

    Any evidence that Biden won't do the debates that he as said he will do?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Who's Trump doing interviews with?

    Any evidence that Biden won't do the debates that he as said he will do?

    He's done interviews with several media outlets the last few months as well as his nightly Covid19 gig where he takes questions.


  • Posts: 8,647 [Deleted User]


    Trump lack of understanding about medications/diseases is truly astounding. He reminds me of psych patients I used to work with who would have all the other psychiatric believing he knew more than the consultants. I I think it's a useful analogy for the majority of his supporters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,604 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    He's done interviews with several media outlets the last few months as well as his nightly Covid19 gig where he takes questions.

    The interview with Hannity? Where he was asked about his policies for the next four years and replied with
    Well, one of the things that will be really great, you know the word experience is still good. I always say talent is more important than experience. I’ve always said that. But the word experience is a very important word. It’s an — a very important meaning.


    I never did this before. I never slept over in Washington. I was in Washington, I think, 17 times. All of a sudden, I’m president of the United States. You know the story. I’m riding down Pennsylvania Avenue with our First Lady and I say, ‘This is great. But I didn’t know very many people in Washington. It wasn’t my thing. I was from Manhattan, from New York. Now I know everybody, and I have great people in the administration.”

    Or his car crash Axios interview? Did you watch that? Trumps handlers need to rein him in, hide him back in the white house bunker for a few weeks.

    Trump gives interviews, but going by his replies maybe he should stop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Trump lack of understanding about medications/diseases is truly astounding. He reminds me of psych patients I used to work with who would have all the other psychiatric believing he knew more than the consultants. I I think it's a useful analogy for the majority of his supporters.

    Problem is he has a lot of supporters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    The interview with Hannity? Where he was asked about his policies for the next four years and replied with



    Or his car crash Axios interview? Did you watch that? Trumps handlers need to rein him in, hide him back in the white house bunker for a few weeks.

    Yeah seen one of those. What a twit :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,223 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    It won't though. People will wise up to Biden hiding and not debating. That's unfortunately a problem for the democrats.

    The democrats have problems but this isn't one of them.

    Do you expect Biden to be out shaking hands and kissing babies and greeting huge crowds? That's a bit problematic at the moment. Trump isn't doing it either because it can't really be done. Biden's speeches and interviews so far have been a lot more coherent than Trump's. Did you watch Trump's interview on HBO?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,314 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    He's done interviews with several media outlets the last few months as well as his nightly Covid19 gig where he takes questions.

    Trump takes questions but doesn't answer the questions asked and instead rambles off on tangents. He also completely embarrassed himself when he did have a tough interview i.e. Axios. The worst presidential interview in a very long time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    have you actually listened to trump speak? incoherent and easily distracted doesn't quite cover it.

    Trump is a master public speaker. He can riff off the cuff for hours and he's genuinely funny when he wants to be. He doesn't couch his message in that slimey gloss people have become tired of since Obama and the Clintons - he tells it like it is. Pence is similar in that regard, actually.

    It's refreshing. It also keeps plenty of journalists in a job. Not that they tend to show any gratitude. Without Trump...they would be all learning to code.

    You get the impression that they value character, as opposed to style over substance. That has been a traditional trait of republican candidates, although I would say Reagan was one of the very few to have both.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,234 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    You should trust Biden then if that's the case. He suffered an unspeakable personal tragedy but didn't let it define him or turn him into a bitter man. What harsh realities has Trump suffered? Born with a silver spoon in his mouth and bailed out any time he got himself into trouble. They are worlds apart, both in character and experience.

    Why doesn't Trump drink alcohol?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,472 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Trump is a master public speaker. He can riff off the cuff for hours and he's genuinely funny when he wants to be. He doesn't couch his message in that slimey gloss people have become tired of since Obama and the Clintons - he tells it like it is. Pence is similar in that regard, actually.

    It's refreshing. It also keeps plenty of journalists in a job. Not that they tend to show any gratitude. Without Trump...they would be all learning to code.

    You get the impression that they value character, as opposed to style over substance. That has been a traditional trait of republican candidates, although I would say Reagan was one of the very few to have both.

    he got distraced by a mosquito and started blathering on about sharks and seals. He has trouble finishing thoughts and sentences. he is an incoherent mess.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,472 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Why doesn't Trump drink alcohol?

    he much prefers other intoxicants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Trump is a master public speaker. He can riff off the cuff for hours and he's genuinely funny when he wants to be. He doesn't couch his message in that slimey gloss people have become tired of since Obama and the Clintons - he tells it like it is. Pence is similar in that regard, actually.

    It's refreshing. It also keeps plenty of journalists in a job. Not that they tend to show any gratitude. Without Trump...they would be all learning to code.

    You get the impression that they value character, as opposed to style over substance. That has been a traditional trait of republican candidates, although I would say Reagan was one of the very few to have both.

    Stop that. Trump is a mess of a public speaker but at least he speaks. People want to hear Biden's policies and opinions though. He needs to get out there and start talking to journalists and interviewers from both side of the divide and not people like cardi b


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Trump is a master public speaker. He can riff off the cuff for hours and he's genuinely funny when he wants to be. He doesn't couch his message in that slimey gloss people have become tired of since Obama and the Clintons - he tells it like it is. Pence is similar in that regard, actually.

    .


    Do you have the oranges of that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    he much prefers other intoxicants.

    Any evidence of that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,472 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Any evidence of that?

    plenty of anecdotal evidence from people he worked with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    plenty of anecdotal evidence from people he worked with.

    So none so. Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,234 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    he much prefers other intoxicants.
    :rolleyes:



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,604 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Why doesn't Trump drink alcohol?

    Because it's dangerous to drink when taking certain medications

    https://www.healthline.com/health/adhd/adderall-and-alcohol


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,472 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    So none so. Thanks

    people have said they seen him take it yet you dismiss it far too easily. i wonder why. Don Jr was off his tits after one bump too many before his speech the other night.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,472 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Because it's dangerous to drink when taking certain medications

    https://www.healthline.com/health/adhd/adderall-and-alcohol

    especially when you crush the adderall and snort it.


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