2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Gruffalux

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

yeah, right

I believe her You saying you don't? Tut tut tut

Gruffalux

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

So it's your view that social justice protests since as far back as (at least) 1967 are unjustified?


What do you think of Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights movement, Gruffalox?

Democratic Mayor of Seattle Jennifer Durkan described the occupation of CHAZ/CHOP as a potential Summer of Love. If she had to clean up the humungous mess after the fools had pillaged whole areas or tend to the rape and gunshot victims of her loving freedom fighters she might have said otherwise

Cody montana

namloc1980 wrote: »

Easily impressed aren't we. Basically Trump's & the RNC message was: things are really terrible in many parts of the country and I couldn't do anything to solve those problems in the last 4 years but give me 4 more years anyway because none of the problems are my fault. But if you elect Biden all those things will get worse (even though they've happened under my watch). It was basically 1 hour and 10 minutes of that circular nonsense.

“Let me fix the mess I created”

namloc1980

Quin_Dub wrote: »

You seem to be in a definite minority there.

The general consensus was that it was a low energy delivery that went on far too long.

It was certainly very low energy from Trump and an extremely long, boring speech full of lies. By the end he was leaning over and gripping onto the lectern a lot. Not a great look.

ohnonotgmail

namloc1980 wrote: »

It was certainly very low energy from Trump and an extremely long, boring speech full of lies. By the end he was leaning over and gripping onto the lectern a lot. Not a great look.

the adderall was wearing off

Professor Moriarty

namloc1980 wrote: »

It was certainly very low energy from Trump and an extremely long, boring speech full of lies. By the end he was leaning over and gripping onto the lectern a lot. Not a great look.

Mental note, make sure no lecterns at debates.

ohnonotgmail

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Mental note, make sure no lecterns at debates.

every time he gives a speech behind a lecturn he holds on to it for dear life.

mcmoustache

Gruffalox wrote: »

Oh I see. That is the level I am dealing with.

For what it is worth Melania is gorgeous, and seems sweet. She generally looks fantastic. She has come in for constant marauding by the left leaning side of things for everything from her clothes, past nudes (priestly horror again), her Christmas decorations to her Rose Garden renovations. As someone who would never vote for someone like Trump - or Biden either, shudders!!- I have thought Melania has great taste and an aesthetic eye and did a grand old job on the previously kitschy rose garden. The persistent deranged mauling of her has been revealing.

She was spreading the same racist birther shíte as her husband. She's trash. Expensive trash but still trash.

Professor Moriarty

Gruffalox wrote: »

Oh I see. That is the level I am dealing with.

For what it is worth Melania is gorgeous, and seems sweet. She generally looks fantastic. She has come in for constant marauding by the left leaning side of things for everything from her clothes, past nudes (priestly horror again), her Christmas decorations to her Rose Garden renovations. As someone who would never vote for someone like Trump - or Biden either, shudders!!- I have thought Melania has great taste and an aesthetic eye and did a grand old job on the previously kitschy rose garden. The persistent deranged mauling of her has been revealing.

Post pics or it didn't happen.

baaba maal

hotmail.com wrote: »

From a global point of view, it's a good thing for America not to over react to these events.

By "over react", do you mean "react"?

Professor Moriarty

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

every time he gives a speech behind a lecturn he holds on to it for dear life.

And looks extremely dodgy going down a stairs.

ohnonotgmail

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Post pics or it didn't happen.

a link to them was posted yesterday. all fine enough if you like women with bolted on plastic breasts. post #4064 if you are interested.

Injuryprone

Gruffalox wrote: »

The people on the streets rioting in America at the moment are violent anti-intellectual low lifes. They have no class. They are hysterical and criminal fools. Defacing public property. Invading shops. Forcing people via mob rule to raise their fists to support "BLM". Pillaging and looting under the guise of a "rights" movement.

Care to explain how re-electing DT is going to improve things.

Professor Moriarty

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

a link to them was posted yesterday. all fine enough if you like women with bolted on plastic breasts.

Well, if you like wearing plastic hair, then that would make perfect sense.

Gerry Hatrick

Gruffalox wrote: »

Oh I see. That is the level I am dealing with.

For what it is worth Melania is gorgeous, and seems sweet. She generally looks fantastic. She has come in for constant marauding by the left leaning side of things for everything from her clothes, past nudes (priestly horror again), her Christmas decorations to her Rose Garden renovations. As someone who would never vote for someone like Trump - or Biden either, shudders!!- I have thought Melania has great taste and an aesthetic eye and did a grand old job on the previously kitschy rose garden. The persistent deranged mauling of her has been revealing.

The left despise her because she is beautiful and intelligent.

namloc1980

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

The left despise her because she is beautiful and intelligent.

She pedaled birther conspiracies about Obama. Do you have any opinion on that?

Professor Moriarty

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

The left despise her because she is beautiful and intelligent.

So lefties only like stupid and ugly women? Okay.

Biker79

They despise her because she represents traditional femininity.

They despise Trump because he represents traditional masculinity.

They have already made it clear they regard gender as a social construct. They feel it is whatever people choose it to be, rather than a biological reality ( unless of course you're a beautiful woman or a dominant male ..they don't get the same parity of esteem ).

If we were to see into the future from a vantage point of 2005, nobody would believe the nonsense lefties have come up with. But here we are.

ohnonotgmail

Biker79 wrote: »

They despise her because she represents traditional femininity.

They despise Trump because he represents traditional masculinity.

They have already made it clear they regard gender as a social construct. They feel it is whatever people choose it to be, rather than a biological reality ( unless of course you're a beautiful woman or a dominant male ..they don't get the same parity of esteem ).

If we were to see into the future from a vantage point of 2005, nobody would believe the nonsense lefties have come up with. But here we are.

if by traditional femininity you mean she is expected to put up with her husband barebacking a porn star a few weeks after giving birth then you are probably right.

and trump sure is the definition of traditional masculinity. he uses more makeup than Ru Paul.

Tigerbaby

The more that I see the BLM (Burn, Loot and Murder) protests going on, the greater chance exists that President Trump will be re-elected.

Don't the Democrats not realise that BLM is the greatest weapon in Trump's armoury right now?

Or simply is it now a monster they can no longer control?

Cogent thoughts and debate please.

jamule

Biker79 wrote: »

They despise her because she represents traditional femininity.

They despise Trump because he represents traditional masculinity.

They have already made it clear they regard gender as a social construct. They feel it is whatever people choose it to be, rather than a biological reality ( unless of course you're a beautiful woman or a dominant male ..they don't get the same parity of esteem ).

If we were to see into the future from a vantage point of 2005, nobody would believe the nonsense lefties have come up with. But here we are.

completly agree, I must be leftits commie though , I am not fat, old and doddery and can talk properly (sometimes).
Not sure where stripper fits in with trad femininity though


As an ould trad masculine man says, grab them by the pussy!

Gerry Hatrick

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

The left despise her because she is beautiful and intelligent.

She helped push a birther conspiracy about the president. Aren't you one of the people who previously said they weren't a Trump supporter? Strangely coming across as one.

Carfacemandog

Tigerbaby wrote: »

The more that I see the BLM (Burn, Loot and Murder) protests going on, the greater chance exists that President Trump will be re-elected.

Don't the Democrats not realise that BLM is the greatest weapon in Trump's armoury right now?

Or simply is it now a monster they can no longer control?

Cogent thoughts and debate please.

The protests and riots are not only the largest in American history, they have the support of the public across almost every demographic. Just because his base hate the idea of protesting on an issue like this, whether it be peaceful or otherwise (and the reactions to Colin Kaepernick in the NFL and now the NBA boycotts shows up the lie that they would be ok with peaceful protest), it doesn't do anything to change that.

If Trump thinks his efforts to emulate China's response to the Hong Kong protests, he is in for a rude awakening. It appears those around him have long since copped on to this too, hence their efforts to dismantle the postal services ability to sort and deliver mail in ballots instead.

ELM327

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

if by traditional femininity you mean she is expected to put up with her husband barebacking a porn star a few weeks after giving birth then you are probably right.

and trump sure is the definition of traditional masculinity. he uses more makeup than Ru Paul.

Your photo is photoshopped.
Compare the dimensions to the dimensions in the below real photo from the independent.

Timberrrrrrrr

Biker79 wrote: »

They despise her because she represents traditional femininity.

They despise Trump because he represents traditional masculinity.

They have already made it clear they regard gender as a social construct. They feel it is whatever people choose it to be, rather than a biological reality ( unless of course you're a beautiful woman or a dominant male ..they don't get the same parity of esteem ).

If we were to see into the future from a vantage point of 2005, nobody would believe the nonsense lefties have come up with. But here we are.

Traditional masculinity?

How many men do you know that are so vain they plaster on fake tan every day?

namloc1980

So Trump told so many lies last night but the crazy thing is he just tells provable lies based on simple fact checking.

He claimed the USA was energy independent and not reliant on foreign energy sources. In reality the US imports vast amounts of crude oil from overseas at an average of 188 million barrels of oil per month in 2020 so far. While it is correct that domestic production has increased significantly and US oil exports have increased, this started under Obama and Trump has continued that increase in domestic production. So while there is less reliance on foreign oil the US remains a net oil importer.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrimus1&f=m

He also claimed (again) credit for the Veterans Choice Act. This was actually enacted by Obama in 2014. Here's a picture of Obama signing it into law in 2014 form the White House archive with the caption:


President Barack Obama signs H.R. 3230, the Veterans' Access, Choice, and Accountability Act of 2014, at Fort Belvoir, Va., Aug. 7, 2014. The bill provides the Department of Veterans Affairs the resources to improve access and quality of care for veterans. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

Tell me how

Tigerbaby wrote: »

The more that I see the BLM (Burn, Loot and Murder) protests going on, the greater chance exists that President Trump will be re-elected.

Don't the Democrats not realise that BLM is the greatest weapon in Trump's armoury right now?

Or simply is it now a monster they can no longer control?

Cogent thoughts and debate please.

Did you miss the 4200 posts when you rocked in here to instigate a debate?

Trump could have used BLM to greatly help his chances in November, he could have acknowledged the pain suffered by the Black community, he could have appointed a high profile team with Kanye front and centre to look in to ways to overcome this, and he could have used this group to talk about what he was going to do if they returned him and he could have made sure they would not report back for at least 12 months and then pointed to this as his efforts to fix the problem.

I'm glad he showed his true colours (and his incapacity to think politically) in not doing this because it has would have been entirely disingenuous.

ohnonotgmail

ELM327 wrote: »

Your photo is photoshopped.
Compare the dimensions to the dimensions in the below real photo from the independent.

PS or not he is still a fat tub of lard who struggles to walk down a ramp and who wears more makeup than a drag queen. how is that traditional masculinity?

ELM327

namloc1980 wrote: »

So Trump told so many lies last night but the crazy thing is he just tells provable lies based on simple fact checking.

He claimed the USA was energy independent and not reliant on foreign energy sources. In reality the US imports vast amounts of crude oil from overseas at an average of 188 million barrels of oil per month in 2020 so far. While it is correct that domestic production has increased significantly and US oil exports have increased, this started under Obama and Trump has continued that increase in domestic production. So while there is less reliance on foreign oil the US remains a net oil importer.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrimus1&f=m

He also claimed (again) credit for the Veterans Choice Act. This was actually enacted by Obama in 2014. Here's a picture of Obama signing it into law in 2014 form the White House archive with the caption:


President Barack Obama signs H.R. 3230, the Veterans' Access, Choice, and Accountability Act of 2014, at Fort Belvoir, Va., Aug. 7, 2014. The bill provides the Department of Veterans Affairs the resources to improve access and quality of care for veterans. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

I think the confusion is the US is a net exporter of petroleum products (eg Gasoline/petrol) but a net importer by 2m barrels of raw crude



https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=42735

namloc1980

Biker79 wrote: »

They despise her because she represents traditional femininity.

They despise Trump because he represents traditional masculinity.

They have already made it clear they regard gender as a social construct. They feel it is whatever people choose it to be, rather than a biological reality ( unless of course you're a beautiful woman or a dominant male ..they don't get the same parity of esteem ).

If we were to see into the future from a vantage point of 2005, nobody would believe the nonsense lefties have come up with. But here we are.

The fake tan and makeup screams traditional masculinity alright. The knots you Trumpists tie yourselves in must be absolutely exhausting.